Just saying hi to all the Nissan owners in the Atl. Anybody else in here has a CA?
hi
Hey I had one. It blew up though.Originally Posted by ragingpanda
I had one but it was soo damn slow. So I put a DOHC KA in.
you guys sound like the engine is not that worth it. hahaha. I don't know but my rwd CA is pretty much faster than my KA,but slower than most KA-T 240sx
Did you have a SOHC or DOHC 240?
...SOHC >.<
welcome to the forum, i come on here to get laughs and stuff from all the ricers on this forum, don't expect to find much good info here...btw i suggest you check out all the various "teams" sites and get a good laugh lol->
1997 fast n furious civic mods:
engine:
ebay intake
racing spark plug wires
green wire loom!
Racing aluminum oil cap
interior:
Racing blue gauges
Ebay plastic type R pedals
Billet shift knob
exterior:
super racer ebay kit
made in taiwan aluminum wing
black steelies with the hubs kicked off
wal-mart high performance tires
suspension:
weapon R super circuit racing coilovers
chrome racing strut tower bar
random blinging bars at random places
^muwauahhaha....owned
i've never had a ca. i am the proud owner of an rb25 and an sr20. there is info to be had here, or rather people who know where the info is.
"...I'm a thief, I'm a liar, There's my church, I sing in the choir..."
My boy Yuda is always cracking my ass up!
Well there ya go.
A stock CA is about the same as a DOHC 240.
ca's suck.
^
nothing is wrong with CA. If I want power in my 240 then I'd do KA-T but for everything else in between(mountain driving, autox, road course) CA is the way for me. I will never put a RB in my 240. As for SR...only if I can't have my CA or KA-T. DOn't get me wrong...all engines are great, just not for me. My CA makes more hp then dohc ka...unless you turbo it then i'll shut up. hahahaha
No seriously.
Dyno a stock CA.
I made 145 whp and 154 ft lbs of torque in my stock DOHC KA. CA's will be very close.
i know it's not a huge differ in stock form, but the CA will make more HP since it's a mother to get some good power out of NA KA. THe only way is to turbo it and like I said, KA-T is another topic....a beast. I hope the comment earlier "ca's suck" was a joke because it's far from it. Once again, if I go KA, Id turbo it.
When I get rid of my stock t25 on my sr, do you want it?
oh so funny...another sr guy. That explained everything.
he would be a ca guy but there isnt a bandwagon for those because they are slow.
hahahehe, you bastards crack my ass up. RagingPandanuts, I was an SR guy, well, I still have it now, and have had it for 2 and a half years now. I am just as happy with it now as I was the first day I drove it. You said you wanted to do a lot of mountain runs, auto-X, and all of that other bullshit, but an SR would have been a better choice due to its RELIABLITY, LIGHT WEIGHT (I am pretty sure it is the lightest motor you can put in a 240, beides an SR20DE, but you know what I am saying), and excellent response to modifications. There is a reason why there is a HUGE bandwagon for SR's now, but that is the sad, sad reason why I am selling all of my SR shit (including my immaculate 240 hatch w/type-x's, 56K original miles, SR20DET, damn it really is a nice car) and I know I will miss it. But, I want to start something new again. What will it be? who the fuck knows. I guess the point to this long-ass post is: CA's SUCK! hehehehehe
fast or slow is all depends on the owner. Can he/she tune it or not and how much money he's/she's willing to spend. The only reason you don't see tons of CA with high ass HP is because most of the owners are pretty much satisfied with around 250whp. What the hell am I going to do with a 300whp+ on a car for autoX and mountain run with only 2500lbs.. There is something called too much power...if you're into drag racing then there isn't but you get my drift. But if you want some high hp ca's, there are several out there if you're willing to search because that engine is made for serious tuning.
Go to CA section on http://www.nico.com and see what I mean. I'm glad there isn't a bandwagon for CA, because it would be gay to have a bunch of import tuner's readers instead of people that actually researched
ca is lighter and sits lower in the engine bay my friend. It can rev up to 8000rpm without breaking anything, I dare to see the SR do that on stock format. Those characteristics are perfect for my mountain runs, autox, and "bullshits". Since when CA is a high maintainence engine. If you putting down 300whp+ on your SR, then you shouldn't be telling me about good reliability unless you deal with the valvetrain. How CA isn't excellent response to modifications when it can keep up with the SR with the same mods even though it's about 15hp less in stock form. Do you even know CA at all? You owned or experienced one before? What an intellectual way to determine an engine, based on the bandwagon. I guess you used to have a riced out civic also huh?
You know yuda right? He's my close friend and the only person he trusts going to the mountain with...I'm still looking for a reason why he's your friend. Are you the guy that rear-ended someone?If so...i'm searching even harder for a reason.
Last edited by ragingpanda; 07-27-2005 at 10:40 AM.
No I'm pretty sure people don't get 300+ out of CAs because they can't not because they don't want to.
there's a guy in kennesaw with one. You want to visit him?
This thread if turning from me simply saying hi to another one about ca vs sr, and not once did I said CA is better. You guys simply cannot accept the CA being as good or better, not because of facts. That just showed you spent more time typing than thinking. The reason why SR is so popular isn't because it's the BEST out there but because it's the current/newer one. Just because the media didn't concentrate on an engine that's 15 yrs old don't mean it's not just as good. That means you guys think toyota 22R is a POS also.
Last edited by ragingpanda; 07-27-2005 at 10:25 AM.
SRs suck CAs rule... but the D16 > all.
This thread is cracking me up b/c everyone is saying the CA sucks but wont even bother to explain why it "suppoably" sucks, with that said it leaves to be that you guys really dont know why it sucks your just spewing garbage. Now lets get down to some facts.
The SR is not the lightest motor dont be fooled by the aluminum block crap, the SR is actually 40 lbs heavier than the CA18DET. The CA is a 1.8l as the SR is 2.0 189cc doesnt make that much of a difference. The CA head design is amazing and the SR head is garbage, SR suck in higher rpm's and will cause a problem thats called Valve Float again due to the crappy head design. Why does the SR produce 205 hp simple b/c it has a bigger turbo than the CA. After numerous people putting on SR T25 turbos on there CA's they produce the exact HP hmmm amazing huh.
Alright lets break it down price wise as well these prices wont include things to spend on such as intercooler, piping, exhaust, just parts for motor performance.
Aight my CA was $950 included everything harness, tranny, motor, turbo etc etc.
SR20 usually go for $1900-$2300 for a normal S13 red top.
That leaves me with about $1000-$1400 to spend due to the savings.
Well lets see I could spend $150 for a SR T25 and since it bolts right up to the CA manifold no problems, so thats 205 hp for the CA now hmmm for $1100 I now have the same power as the SR but with all the benefits that the CA has such as better head and block and higher revs. say I dont want the SR T25 I could go with a T3/T04E for $350 from Garrett, external wastegate $200, 550cc Injectors $200, FPR $100, Fuel pump $90, $20-$200 tuning either Rom Tune or Mega Squirt, $30 for Z32 MAF or $0 since Megasquirt uses and comes with a Map sensor, T3 manifold $179
Thats $1169-$1319 and with all that, will produce a CA with about 320-340 WHP.
so in total thats about $2000 for a CA then add in like $600 for things you need to complete the swap such as intercooler, exhaust, parts, gasket, lines, fluids, etc etc so $2600 to swap in a CA with 330whp oh yea those prices dont include clutch b/c my motor came with a Nismo Stage 2 clutch so it will handle that hp, but add another $200-$300 for clutch as well.
BTW it takes more money to produce 300+whp for a SR than a CA and its easier on the CA.
Also the stock CA's internals can handle 500whp if done properly and tuned properly, and yes its been done before numerous times. So far the record for a CA is around 750+ whp. Now tell me again why the CA sucks?
Chill man. I am only fucking with you. I really don't give a damn what you put in your car, what you do with your car, or anything. And no, I have NEVER owned a riced out civic. I think I know who you are now. Don't take my shit seriously, I am just throwing words on here to fuck around with people. What was your name again? I think you came to my house one time with either Yuda, Kamau, Paul, hell I can't remember. When is the next time anybody is going up to the mountains? I have not been on a mountain run in a WHILE. The only reason anybody else is fucking with you is cuz of personal preference. That is the only reason the KA-T vs. SR battles are ALWAYS going on. Either way, if something makes the power that you want, then it is fine with me. I wanna see it when you get done, and if you need any help, just let me know.
BTW, are you 100% positive that the CA weighs less? I have seriously never researched that, so I don't know. I have never had a reason to fuck with a CA when I have had my SR for a couple years now. Anyways, I think I am done for now. Oh well, see ya later bitches!
-Brandon
yeah i talked to a guy at SFS3 who had a black SE coupe with a CA18det in it, and his son had an SR... he admitted it was not as fast, and he was going to go SR, but the CA was about 1000 to 1500 bux cheaper... im getting a 240 soon and may be thinking about CA next year because it is easier to save up for... also he noted that it would beat KA's (n/a) all day
FC - Death by rotary forever
CRX daily... Gas prices suck, i love my HF
Prove it.
Also, that car is kennesaw made what 302? And he is selling it...It's a t3/t4 right? I bet that car is fun off while you are off boost...
see panda I told you this forum sucks; with the exception of a few, no one knows what they're talking about and they rather fight over retarded shit like whose 16 second civic is faster (actually quite entertaining, gotta love them e-thugs)... I just noticed there was an ad banner for "ekletic genes"... just when I thought this forum couldn't get any lower, what kinda car forum has sponsorship from a clothing company lol.
yea Brandon we should def go up again, I have been very busy with the MCAT, how's everyone doing? I haven't spoked to any of them for awhile.
Hey hey hey now.... there is nothing wrong with RB's.... sigh ok so they break alot... but yeah i got love for the CA.
YUDA!!! Damn, keep up the good work in school. I am in the middle of a fabrication course and suspension setup/geometry. F1 cars are fun as fuck to work on, but there are too many damn Nascar pieces getting in the way!! Everybody else is doing good for now. Nobody really heads up to the mountains these days anymore, I guess everyone is just too busy. I head up there every now and then just to have some peace, I hate people in case you did not know this already. Hit me up sometime and we all can head up to Blood Mtn. sometime.
-Brandon
I"m not trying to start anything with anybody so if I offended you somehow...i didn't mean to...especially S14Slider. Yes, even though CA has iron block it's lighter than SR. Let's put everything aside and get along.*hold hands around a fire*...wtf...that's pretty gay...nm
I have no problem with anybody picking any engine because like I said, they're all great. Hell, if I have like four 240sx's i would do them all:CA,SR,KA-T,RB. All about personal preferences my friends.
The problem that got me off is when people be dissing another engine even though they don't know shit about it. CA vs N/A KA is a joke...unless it's a freaky NA build up then oh yes...me like.
Gash I hate people like you I'm not gonna spoon feed you, but I will reply this.
These Videos are the CA powered S13 in Japan in the video the car was producing 680whp this was over a year ago the car is now over 750.
http://www.pb-addict.com/~modaccess/CA18DET.wmv
http://www.pb-addict.com/~modaccess/ca18det1.wmv
As for the 500hp on stock internals go to www.sxoc.com and NICO and search for it.
As for the CA on a T3/T4 whats wrong depending on the size of the compressor and turbine the t3/T4 will hit full boost in 2800-3200 rpm's if its not fun before it hits full boost what makes you think the SR will be on the same turbo, come on man think before you speak seriously your making a fool of yourself. Dont forget the SR N/A and CA N/A only have like 10hp difference.
No"seriously.
Dyno a stock CA.
I made 145 whp and 154 ft lbs"of torque in my stock DOHC KA. CA's will be very close.
That's a remarkable KA or corrected numbers then. Stock DOHC KA is right around 125-130 whp, little"more torque. This fits closely"with the typical 15%-20% drivetrain losses one would expect witj a RWD vehicle (as stock KA is rated at 155 hp, 160 tq flywheel+
There are video's of SR's doing the same thing.
Will my SR be like that? --No.
Will your CA be like that?--No.
Depends on the motor I have seen healthy ka's do 150 ish all day.
Mine made 148 hp 155 tq
Ever seen a Camaro put down numbers to the wheels higher than its flywheel claimed hp is? I have.
Also that motor is a ca21 probably with like a jun kit.
wow thank you guys Auxilary has proven to me that this forum is nothing but a bunch of fucking idiots who think they know it all, and cant accept the fact that they are wrong, some of you state the CA sucks with no facts or information as to know what they are talking so obviously I shed some light and fact and even provide some media of a amazingly insane CA and STILL cant accept the fact that the CA is actually a better motor than the SR, the only thing the SR crew say to redeem them selves is that the SR motor is popular for a reason WTF, Hey guess what McDonalds has over a billion served does it make it better than Wendy's or Burger King or maybe In and Out shit what the fuck is wrong with this forum.
Last edited by Pumaking; 07-27-2005 at 11:01 PM.
The ca is better than the ca?
Mcdonalds is good.
One video isnt convincing me of shit. You post that and think people are going to say" Hot damn Ca's are better than SR's" because of a video?
I could post some videos proving otherwise of a LOT of engines but why?
Most engines have their strong point and I know alot of the strong points of CA's and point for point. I feel an SR is better. A so do alot of EDUCATED people. Not to say an sr is the best motor ever but its better than a ca for a starting point.
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