no excuse you can make will make a sunfire any cooler. Theres millions of hondas out there for a reason. and FYI, the fart can bumble bee exhaust was not started by the japanese, it was startd by beaners here in the us who are too cheap to put a real exhaust system on their car, so they cut the exhaust out and run some flex pipe out the back with a huge tip.... A real JDM exhaust is not going to sound like a fart can. The last three systems I have had (RSR exmag, mugen twin loop, A'PEXi WS2) were deep sounding, not raspy and buzzy like the ricers you see here with their caviliers that are sooo "jdm".Originally Posted by Gutling