SR's are gay

[Black95s14]

How bout some originality

Everyone and their brother wants an SR

all you sr guys think automatically ill swap it in and make stock power or a little more with a FMIC and a blow off valve and that your car is unstoppable

I made this comment in the KA thread

assume 3 grand for a good complete SR swap

and thats stock SR just at or a little over 200 hp

imagine 3 grand in a KA

that would be pushin close to 500 hp

why is this motor so hated

its called torque, and its a good thing




Heres a towel

[TheSnail]

Towel? No thanks, you might need that towel to help you pick up your ringlands.

[Capt._Ron]

KA+$3000= a $3000 turd

[OneSlow5pt0]

put a 20B in that bitch

[HalfBaked]

Show me a dyno of a KA with a t25 on it that makes as much power as my STOCK TURBO STOCK INTERNALS t25 sr20det...please do that.

[sebastianHoff]

i so dont give a fuck anymore.

[HalfBaked]

i so dont give a fuck anymore.

That is because you rev to like 6500rpm. Rev like a real man!

[Benefit]

man this guy just got a 240 , he doesn't know shit yet....

KA cant compete with an SR , what the HELL DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??

you turbo a KA to get to the same level as a STOCK SR...is that so hard to understand????

[2jz240sx]

or you can buy a real engine like myself...
and throw a 2jz single turbo in that mo-fo

[Benefit]

yea or that...man hes a noob...hell understand later

[OneSlow5pt0]

or you can buy a real engine like myself...
and throw a 2jz single turbo in that mo-fo

fuck that,just go all out and put a 26B in it and make 780hp all motor

[Kyle]

So much hostility over motors when it comes to you 240 guys. RB, SR, KA, 2JZ.

I was with decker and a guy with an Rb20 S14 pulls up and they talk and he doesnt think shit of deckers car, he's like "everyone is doing that swap." WTF?

[EmotorsportsE]

RB20 ftw.

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[tron]

RB20 ftw.

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+1 rb20's cost about the same as an sr and there better

[sebastianHoff]

RB20 FTL.

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That is because you rev to like 6500rpm. Rev like a real man!

im putting a redtop in an e30 and the rb25 is 6800. so no crap from you today.

course none of this really matters since gas is past $3.50 a gallon up here, which means i spend most of my time driving my g/f 94 sohc accord. shoot me in the head.

[Black95s14]

just got my car????

try november of 05

but thanks for talkin out your ass

and i have to turbo the KA to get the same amount as an SR, are you shitting me??

I could build a NA KA that make the same amount as the SR

guess what your SR's are barely 200 hp at the wheels

[wantboost]

So much hostility over motors when it comes to you 240 guys. RB, SR, KA, 2JZ.

I was with decker and a guy with an Rb20 S14 pulls up and they talk and he doesnt think shit of deckers car, he's like "everyone is doing that swap." WTF?

shit, i got that from some guy today lol.

[Benefit]

whatever man just turbo your ka...and see what happens

[AFSil80]

CA18ET > KA24DE-T

And no that's not a typo.

My S12 > any KA. It's gangsta2daSkull.

[2jz240sx]

yeah at least go with ca18det...they are really good when done right.
ka's are only good stock motors in my opinion...
and if you are really poor then maybe put a turbo on it...

but what do i know, i just drive a 500hp+240

[SpecV_Scott]

just got my car????

I could build a NA KA that make the same amount as the SR

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Awesome. A KA with exhaust puts down about 130whp. So where is that 70whp going to come from? You will spend WAY more to get a KA to 200whp NA than you would spend just swapping in an SR.

I'm not saying the SR is the best engine. I'm just saying it's the easiest. They're cheap, they're light, they're easy to install, and there is a fucking ginormous aftermarket for them.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

I'm not saying the SR is the best engine. I'm just saying it's the easiest. They're cheap, they're light, they're easy to install, and there is a fucking ginormous aftermarket for them.

I agree, Id rather spend 3 grand on a reliable SR. All i need is enough to get me sideways, honestly. I know that sounds gay, but why fix what isnt broken?

BTW, a stock KA with a stock SR T25 will push as much as a S15 SR20. Its been dyno proven. Lots more torque too. All i know is, you better get some updated rods and bearings, believe me, when they say KA-T is timebomb, they mean it. My motor only had 90k on it too...

[HalfBaked]

and i have to turbo the KA to get the same amount as an SR, are you shitting me??

I could build a NA KA that make the same amount as the SR

Yea you can but it would cost you a shit load...

The reason why people say they make more power on a KA-T isn't because it is a better motor but because they put bigger turbos on it, no one puts a t25 on there KA to turbo it. Put a t25 on a KA and I guarentee my SR will last longer then it.

[EmotorsportsE]

I'm all for KA-T's, built though. I have gone through too many pistons on stock KA-T's to enjoy it at all. It sucks having to pull the head and oil pan off every other month to replace pistons. If I had $3000, and wanted the best bang for the buck, it wouldn't be a KA-T, It'd be a Redtop with a FMIC, Greddy Plenum, T28 BB, exhaust, and a ECU tune. $3000 would get me a nice turbo setup with a safc2, but still the ringlands suck. Build the motor, then I get an ebay turbo setup. Stock KA's will only last with more money dumped into the engine management, so do that, then no build or, nice turbo setup. Money for money, the SR, it can be done quick, and it's reliable.

[Black95s14]

Earlier someone people were talkin about the RB20

I like that motor don't get me wrong, but i cant see the point of swapping in a heavier motor and adding two cylinders and losing .4 ltrs from the KA

And I will admit i'll appreciate an SR if it is built nice, but it pisses me off how so many people just want to toss the KA aside and automatically put an SR in. The SR 240's are like mustangs, they are fuckin everywhere

I had a kid who i hardly know come up to me about a year ago (typical fast and furious fan boy, and his parents bought him a BMW and he totaled it so they bought him another, but thats a different story) and he asked first off if I drift. BTW he was driving through the parking lot at a restaurant so he saw my car. I said no, then he proceeded to ask me if I had an SR, I said know, and he says well you need to put one it and get that thing sideways.

Thats the typical SR image and I don't see why so many people want that or like that. The 240 people are supposed to be the ones who don't care about big wings or clear tail lights, they just like originality

And I think the SR is dare I say it, becoming ricey
I know honda people that want to put SR's in their cars somehow.

When it crosses into cross breeding, thats where I draw the line

[Sol-Badguy]

Foot in mouth.

[Benefit]

yep the typical SR image is "gettin' sideway homedogg"...

KA RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Black95s14]

ignorant fan boy, just keep dening it

tell me this


how many 240's have you seen drifting (and I mean good with sponsors, not cul-de-sac drifters) that have KA's???

I rest my case

[Ltdnismorace]

dude that's like saying putting a b16 in a honda is ricey.... they had them in stock in some instances just like the SR in a 240 chassis. If you wanna build up your KA, by all means go for it, but don't knock people who have SR20s in their cars. By your logic people who use small block 350s are ricers because they are everywhere. No, they are everywhere because they work, just like SRs. You are entitled to your opinion, I'm an advocate of that, but don't come across like an arrogant asshole and group a large group of us b/c one fuckin high school shitbag gave you a bad taste.

[AFSil80]

yeah at least go with ca18det...they are really good when done right.
ka's are only good stock motors in my opinion...
and if you are really poor then maybe put a turbo on it...

but what do i know, i just drive a 500hp+240

Yeah, S13 is getting the CA18DET. If I can keep from spending $$ elsewhere, it should put out well over 400 to the wheels by the end of the year. If I feel baller enough, the S12 will get a DET as well (Hell, I've got 1 half cut and 1 motorset, they're just on different continents, haha). Wishful thinking sucks, but since I just went up another rank, the budget got a pretty big boost. Anyways, I'm not building the car to slide. S15 diffs. have better use. We'll see where it sits in September/October, haha.

[EmotorsportsE]

I love my KA-T's, but didn't see a single one at Formula Drift this year.

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[Capt._Ron]

SR's just flat out work. Thats all there is to it. I can take my damn pos 240 to black hills , beat the everloving shit out of it, and drive home with 0 problems. I cant tell you how man times that thing has been bouncing of the rev limiter and still not one problem. The KA just is not as reliable or as good. Call sr's ricey all you want but at the end of the day your still on the side of the road with your amazing, blown up ka-t and im driving home in my ricey sr car.

[BruceAlmighty]

Show me a dyno of a KA with a t25 on it that makes as much power as my STOCK TURBO STOCK INTERNALS t25 sr20det...please do that.

your so full of shit. your car is not stock. try again...

[240sxautox]

I like my rb20. I bought it because it's a nice strong block, good on gas, able to put down the power I want, and the sound gives me a boner.

So if I'm ricey for my choosing so be it. And about the SR- that motor is a great motor, why do people hate each others decisions? SR's are easy/fairly cheap to modify, VERY easy to find performance parts for, they're pretty, high revving, high compression ratio, etc. etc. They're a great motor- very economical and still a good performance motor. So what is the downside?

and for the KA- I mean yeah it's a nice strong motor...for daily driving and what not- and yes it's completely possible to build it for super high numbers just like any other motor. If that's what you want to do then by all means have fun, KA-T's can be a lot of fun, or just completely built KA's. Either way just do what you do and enjoy your decisions.

[2jz240sx]

everyone and their moms have an sr!
ah shit ass shit!

[BTLFED]

Earlier someone people were talkin about the RB20

I like that motor don't get me wrong, but i cant see the point of swapping in a heavier motor and adding two cylinders and losing .4 ltrs from the KA

And I will admit i'll appreciate an SR if it is built nice, but it pisses me off how so many people just want to toss the KA aside and automatically put an SR in. The SR 240's are like mustangs, they are fuckin everywhere

I had a kid who i hardly know come up to me about a year ago (typical fast and furious fan boy, and his parents bought him a BMW and he totaled it so they bought him another, but thats a different story) and he asked first off if I drift. BTW he was driving through the parking lot at a restaurant so he saw my car. I said no, then he proceeded to ask me if I had an SR, I said know, and he says well you need to put one it and get that thing sideways.

Thats the typical SR image and I don't see why so many people want that or like that. The 240 people are supposed to be the ones who don't care about big wings or clear tail lights, they just like originality

And I think the SR is dare I say it, becoming ricey
I know honda people that want to put SR's in their cars somehow.

When it crosses into cross breeding, thats where I draw the line

You are the most ignorant fuck I have ever seen. An RB20 is a fucking boat anchor. A KA is a fucking truck engine. There is a reason everyone uses an SR20. IT WORKS. Fuck being different and using a less reliable setup just because you want to be different.

And fuck your Honda statements, seeing as you drive Nissan's version of a Civic. Everyone has one now a days. Do you drift too, asshat? DIAF.

[BTLFED]

your so full of shit. your car is not stock. try again...

No, he's not. I know him personally and I know what is done to his SR. Here's an idea: drive your 240 off a cliff.

[Benefit]

i like the sr even more now since i only have 1 chain. not a idler pulley then a timing chain

KA is KA-BOOM...

cant really say much cause my sr is not running but thats because i spun a bearing in cylinder 3, which alot of people do for some reason...i guess a oiling problem, but not sure...

[auxiliary]

halfbaked's car was on stock engine specs, and stock turbo. He was tuning the EMS when he made that much power. I don't know if that was before or after his injectors..

KA's are ehh..oh well. I agree that the 240 image is the boy drifter image....but that doesn't mean that having an SR makes you a drifter. When I had my 240 I was going to make it a highway straight line car. I could care less about going around in a parking lot or driving country back roads.

There are a lot of fast 240's out there that aren't all about drifting, sr. ka, rb, whatever....

putting a 2j in your 240 doesn't make you cool. Especially if it's an s13. You are investing money into a turd. It's like the guy that put a twin turbo ls1 into a volvo wagon...can it be done, yes....is it fast, yes....is it still a peice of shit body? Yes.

anyways, 240's aren't cool any more. Regardless of what motor they have. All the owners are dumb asses

[HalfBaked]

your so full of shit. your car is not stock. try again...

My car isn't stock you are right, but my motor was on stock internals and stock turbo which is what I said when I made all that power.