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06-09-2007, 12:59 PM
OneSlow5pt0

i like this one:D http://us1.webpublications.com.au/st...7/2757_2mg.jpg
06-09-2007, 01:01 PM
BTLFED

Stop forcing your Mazda nonsense on us! We like pistons, damnit!
06-09-2007, 01:01 PM
OneSlow5pt0

lol
06-09-2007, 01:52 PM
Benefit

what happens if the apex seals blow , hypnotoad
06-09-2007, 05:43 PM
OneSlow5pt0

i can blow up piston engine just as fast as a rotary
06-09-2007, 06:09 PM
Benefit

yea but its easier to rebuild the piston engine
06-09-2007, 06:13 PM
OneSlow5pt0

fuck rebuilding,just pop a new one in
06-09-2007, 06:49 PM
Benefit

yeah cause were all ballin like that
06-09-2007, 07:54 PM
OneSlow5pt0

a 13BT is only like $1k
06-10-2007, 11:46 AM
StupidBikerBoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black95s14

I like that motor don't get me wrong, but i cant see the point of swapping in a heavier motor and adding two cylinders and losing .4 ltrs from the KA

Simple power equation. more valve area = more power.
06-10-2007, 12:03 PM
StupidBikerBoy

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Originally Posted by 95droppedhatch

i think eveybody should get over the sr and start putting the ls1 in there

Well said.

If you truly are after the most power potential/parts availability/price, the LS1 is the way to go. Capable of 450 REAR wheel hp with just a cam swap, rev to 7k safely stock (arp rod bolts are suggested past that), weighs less than all other 240 swaps except the SR, can get over 30 mpg, and will hold up to 700hp on the stock bottom. Its also one of the easiest swaps I have ever performed. You can even upgrade or even stroke the bottom end for less than $2k.

Then theres the power under the curve (torque), which is always great. Imagine what you could do with a boosted one?
06-10-2007, 12:06 PM
StupidBikerBoy

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Originally Posted by auxiliary

putting an ls1 into a car almost cost as much as putting an rb26 into a car

:umno:

Nowhere near it. And take that from someone who has done both.
06-10-2007, 12:08 PM
2jz240sx

yeah but its american FUCK THAT
06-10-2007, 12:22 PM
StupidBikerBoy

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Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott

^True.

FYI, I've driven my SR to Orlando twice, and once to Deal's Gap (where I ran the Tail of the Dragon 4 times). Running 13psi the whole time. Doesn't burn oil. Doesn't run weird. Doesn't smoke. Gets decent gas mileage (around 22city, 26hwy). I don't drift, but I drag race (14.5 currently, working on my launch) and autoX (will get to run it June 9th). I have power steering (working HICAS), a factory LSD, ABS, and will have A/C in a couple weeks. I've invested around $5500 total, including the cost of the car.

^^^ That's not all dependant on having an SR....but it's made everything so easy and cheap. I wish everything in life was that way.

For around the same you could have 400hp, 30+ mpg, working dash, working AC, working PS, stock reliabilty, and an 11 second capable car.

I have close to $10k in this project, including the 95' S14. And thats also including $2500 in engine mods, Kaaz 2 way, aluminum driveshaft, and much more that I didnt need to include.

Not bashing on the SR (it is a great swap), just pointing out some things about the LS1 swap.
06-10-2007, 12:24 PM
StupidBikerBoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2jz240sx

yeah but its american FUCK THAT

Whats that got to do with anything? Arent you also?:lmfao:
06-10-2007, 12:34 PM
SpecV_Scott

Quote:

Originally Posted by StupidBikerBoy

For around the same you could have 400hp, 30+ mpg, working dash, working AC, working PS, stock reliabilty, and an 11 second capable car.

I have close to $10k in this project, including the 95' S14. And thats also including $2500 in engine mods, Kaaz 2 way, aluminum driveshaft, and much more that I didnt need to include.

Not bashing on the SR (it is a great swap), just pointing out some things about the LS1 swap.

I agree the LS1 has it's merits. I just don't trust GM's reliability as far as I could throw it.

BTW, I autoX'd my car yesterday. The trip was awesome because I now have working A/C ($140 cutom line made by Auto Cool in Smyrna). I had never raced a RWD car, nor had I REALLY pushed my 240 like that....so I learned a lot. But the car kicked serious ass. It was SOOOOO fun to fly around those cones, and be able to steer it with the gas pedal. I had ZERO problems all day...even flying around an autocross in 98degree weather in first gear close to redline.

I <3 my SR.
06-10-2007, 12:58 PM
StupidBikerBoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott

I agree the LS1 has it's merits. I just don't trust GM's reliability as far as I could throw it.

BTW, I autoX'd my car yesterday. The trip was awesome because I now have working A/C ($140 cutom line made by Auto Cool in Smyrna). I had never raced a RWD car, nor had I REALLY pushed my 240 like that....so I learned a lot. But the car kicked serious ass. It was SOOOOO fun to fly around those cones, and be able to steer it with the gas pedal. I had ZERO problems all day...even flying around an autocross in 98degree weather in first gear close to redline.

I <3 my SR.

Why do you not trust thier reliability? GM's engine reliability has been proven over and over and easily tops most others, especially when it comes to V8's. Of course they like all manufacturers have had their bad apples, but overall they are one of the top for reliability. The small block chevy has been the longest running design over ALL other engines, and it was designed in the early 50's. Granted nowhere near the most efficient motor, but to say they arent reliable is just not true. No offense, but it sounds as though you just dont know much about them.

How many 300K mile SR's, KA's, B16's, 2JZ's, RB's, 1JZ's, etc. have you seen that are still running? I have personally seen (and owned quite a few) a lot more GM motors still going at 300K than any other, by a long shot. Of course I did have a GM 2.8 v6 turd once, now that was a shitty motor.

Great now I feel like a GM fanboy. :rolleyes:

I <3 my SR too!
06-10-2007, 01:18 PM
OneSlow5pt0

Quote:

Originally Posted by StupidBikerBoy

Why do you not trust thier reliability? GM's engine reliability has been proven over and over and easily tops most others, especially when it comes to V8's. Of course they like all manufacturers have had their bad apples, but overall they are one of the top for reliability. The small block chevy has been the longest running design over ALL other engines, and it was designed in the early 50's. Granted nowhere near the most efficient motor, but to say they arent reliable is just not true. No offense, but it sounds as though you just dont know much about them.

How many 300K mile SR's, KA's, B16's, 2JZ's, RB's, 1JZ's, etc. have you seen that are still running? I have personally seen (and owned quite a few) a lot more GM motors still going at 300K than any other, by a long shot. Of course I did have a GM 2.8 v6 turd once, now that was a shitty motor.

Great now I feel like a GM fanboy. :rolleyes:

I <3 my SR too!

20B
06-10-2007, 01:45 PM
StupidBikerBoy

LMFAO!! +1
06-10-2007, 01:55 PM
Benefit

lmao @ the toad
06-10-2007, 02:10 PM
OneSlow5pt0

ya laugh now,but just wait....and yall gonna shit when u see the C4 vette with a 26B i got planned
06-10-2007, 02:29 PM
Benefit

lol
06-10-2007, 03:17 PM
Stopsnitchin

sr20 is the shit!
06-10-2007, 05:40 PM
OneSlow5pt0

lol,yall better hope i dont get rich.....or ill rip your 240s a new one....and stick my wankel in
06-10-2007, 07:03 PM
Extrememustang

SR gonna pull a premuim. WTF does that mean?
06-10-2007, 07:07 PM
Extrememustang

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenefitX

man this guy just got a 240 , he doesn't know shit yet....

KA cant compete with an SR , what the HELL DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??

you turbo a KA to get to the same level as a STOCK SR...is that so hard to understand????

Ok lets look at this yes you TURBO a KA you get same HP as a SR. UMMM SR is ALREADY turboed so take off the turbo and what does a sr get? Also its a truck motor. OMFG so they put that motor is a truck big whoop. My ridgeline has a 3.5 in it so does a 350z.My fucking 94 KA altima was runnin in the 13;s and omg its a altima, FWD and a ka24de, well yea and it was still realiable
06-10-2007, 07:09 PM
Extrememustang

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Awesome. A KA with exhaust puts down about 130whp. So where is that 70whp going to come from? You will spend WAY more to get a KA to 200whp NA than you would spend just swapping in an SR.

I'm not saying the SR is the best engine. I'm just saying it's the easiest. They're cheap, they're light, they're easy to install, and there is a fucking ginormous aftermarket for them.

um my ka when it was stock was 155hp
06-10-2007, 07:50 PM
TheSnail

Thats at the crank though. If you want to talk crank hp my na sr has 200-210
06-10-2007, 08:35 PM
Benefit

ok fuck it whatever , im throwing my sr in the trash and putting a ka-t in it OK
06-10-2007, 11:55 PM
Benefit

even bitches know

b e n e f i t x (12:51:45 AM): SR20DET.
b e n e f i t x (12:51:49 AM): What is it?
SwEeTaZsUgR69 (12:51:41 AM): Nissan Sr Engine
b e n e f i t x (12:52:02 AM): you googled it
SwEeTaZsUgR69 (12:53:17 AM): no
b e n e f i t x (12:53:49 AM): do you know what a kat is
SwEeTaZsUgR69 (12:54:06 AM): nope dont care
b e n e f i t x (12:54:39 AM): exactly
06-11-2007, 12:10 AM
SpecV_Scott

Quote:

Originally Posted by StupidBikerBoy

Why do you not trust thier reliability? GM's engine reliability has been proven over and over and easily tops most others, especially when it comes to V8's. Of course they like all manufacturers have had their bad apples, but overall they are one of the top for reliability. The small block chevy has been the longest running design over ALL other engines, and it was designed in the early 50's. Granted nowhere near the most efficient motor, but to say they arent reliable is just not true. No offense, but it sounds as though you just dont know much about them.

How many 300K mile SR's, KA's, B16's, 2JZ's, RB's, 1JZ's, etc. have you seen that are still running? I have personally seen (and owned quite a few) a lot more GM motors still going at 300K than any other, by a long shot. Of course I did have a GM 2.8 v6 turd once, now that was a shitty motor.

Great now I feel like a GM fanboy. :rolleyes:

I <3 my SR too!

Reason #1 why I don't trust GM shit: DEXCOOL
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Sure the SBC has been around forever. It's a fundamentally sound design. I just have a few friends with LS1s that have had a lot of minor issues sprout up on low-mileage cars....things that just should not be happening to "new" cars. Like power steering pumps going out before 40,000mi. Random A/C parts starting to leak refrigerant. Glass windows separating from convertible tops. I know these things aren't really related to the LS1 itself...but it all just makes me want to stay the hell away from anything GM.

Now, if someone offered me an FD powered by either a 13B or a LS1...I'd probably take the LS1! But that's another story entirely.
06-11-2007, 12:15 AM
SpecV_Scott

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Originally Posted by Extrememustang

um my ka when it was stock was 155hp

Just like TheSnail said...that's at the CRANK. On a dyno, a stock KA will put down 130whp if it's healthy. Take in mind I saw a S14 with a catback and intake make 130whp. I've seen a SOHC KA put down 99whp.
06-11-2007, 07:19 AM
OneSlow5pt0

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott

Reason #1 why I don't trust GM shit: DEXCOOL
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Sure the SBC has been around forever. It's a fundamentally sound design. I just have a few friends with LS1s that have had a lot of minor issues sprout up on low-mileage cars....things that just should not be happening to "new" cars. Like power steering pumps going out before 40,000mi. Random A/C parts starting to leak refrigerant. Glass windows separating from convertible tops. I know these things aren't really related to the LS1 itself...but it all just makes me want to stay the hell away from anything GM.

Now, if someone offered me an FD powered by either a 13B or a LS1...I'd probably take the LS1! But that's another story entirely.

then i would have to take that Fd off your hands:taun:
06-11-2007, 06:05 PM
EmotorsportsE

The reason Dex-cool has ever been an issue was because when you mix standard coolant and dex-cool, it won't cause any issues. If you pay attention and use dex-cool and only dex-cool, I have never seen any issues. I worked at a kauffman tire for 2 years, and and oil change plce for another 2, always doing coolant flushes, never seeing any issues. Thats just a small group of people who had an issue, maybe .001$ of all GM's sold, and found someting to blame it on, thats why GM will never come out and say there was ever an issue. Mixing is the problem, not Dex-cool alone.

E
06-11-2007, 08:09 PM
Extrememustang

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSnail

Thats at the crank though. If you want to talk crank hp my na sr has 200-210

Ok if ka24de CAME turboed from the factory like a sr I wonder what the hp was. See sr has a turbo and made for a turbo, ka arnt turbo and arnt made for turboing. So like I said I wonder if it came turboed and made for it what it would put down.
06-11-2007, 08:35 PM
Benefit

enough with the IF questions.
06-11-2007, 08:38 PM
BTLFED

If your aunt had balls would she be your uncle?
06-11-2007, 08:52 PM
Sleepy122CID

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmotorsportsE

The reason Dex-cool has ever been an issue was because when you mix standard coolant and dex-cool, it won't cause any issues. If you pay attention and use dex-cool and only dex-cool, I have never seen any issues. I worked at a kauffman tire for 2 years, and and oil change plce for another 2, always doing coolant flushes, never seeing any issues. Thats just a small group of people who had an issue, maybe .001$ of all GM's sold, and found someting to blame it on, thats why GM will never come out and say there was ever an issue. Mixing is the problem, not Dex-cool alone.

E

If you let Dex-Cool get low at all (ie air in the system) it will also cause it to turn to mud.
06-11-2007, 11:58 PM
SpecV_Scott

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmotorsportsE

The reason Dex-cool has ever been an issue was because when you mix standard coolant and dex-cool, it won't cause any issues. If you pay attention and use dex-cool and only dex-cool, I have never seen any issues. I worked at a kauffman tire for 2 years, and and oil change plce for another 2, always doing coolant flushes, never seeing any issues. Thats just a small group of people who had an issue, maybe .001$ of all GM's sold, and found someting to blame it on, thats why GM will never come out and say there was ever an issue. Mixing is the problem, not Dex-cool alone.

E

I can see that being a legitimate issue. Kind of like how you have to use ATF in Nissan power steering pumps. But if some dumbass put regular power steering fluid in it years ago, all you gotta do is replace a pump. If someone mixes coolant types in a GM (according to your explanation)....the damage can be much more significant.
06-12-2007, 12:03 AM
OneSlow5pt0

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott

I can see that being a legitimate issue. Kind of like how you have to use ATF in Nissan power steering pumps. But if some dumbass put regular power steering fluid in it years ago, all you gotta do is replace a pump. If someone mixes coolant types in a GM (according to your explanation)....the damage can be much more significant.

some one told me 12As are good:rolleyes:

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