Vote for my swap

[Whiteboy™]

I am looking to swap one of the following engines into my '91 Sedan.... Just let me know what you guys think.

B20Z

• NON-VTEC
• Found in: 1999-2001 Honda CR-V
• Displacement: 1973
• Power: 146 hp @ 5500 rpm
• Torque: 133@ 4500 rpm
• Compression: 9.6:1
• Bore: 84 mm
• Stroke: 89 mm
• Redline: 6700 rpm

B16A2

• VTEC
  
  • 1999-2000 Honda Civic Si (EM1)
    
    • Displacement: 1595 cm³
    • Compression: 10.2:1
    • Power: 160 hp (118 kW) @ 7600 rpm & 111 ft·lbf (151 N·m) @ 7000 rpm
    • Transmission: Y21 S4C

B18C1

• VTEC
• Found in:
  
  • 1994-2001 Integra GS-R (DC2 & DB8)
• Displacement: 1797 cm³
• Compression: 10.0:1
• Bore: 81 mm (3.189")
• Stroke: 87.2 mm (3.433")
• Rod Length: 137.9 mm (5.429")
• Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.58
• Power:
  
  
  • 170hp @ 7600 rpm
  • 128 ft·lbf @ 6200 rpm
• Transmission: S80

All engine information found on Wikipedia.org

[Papa_Smurf]

I say the GSR.


But my vote would be for a ZC and then turbo. You can get a complete swap for $750-$1000 then you got left over money for turbo.

[Whiteboy™]

well the reason i have the b20 up there is b/c it is a great engine to turbo... and it is a cheap swap

[Benefit]

gsr

[AgentEasy]

i'm doin an ls non-vtec in mah rex.. it's gon be smokin.. tires..

[Sol-Badguy]

I say GS-R.

[Papa_Smurf]

how much will the B20 swap cost ya? motor mounts, tranny, ecu everything...

[william_jeff]

gsr is pretty much the best all around Bseries engine, you can go N/A or boost easily, and it's fun as hell straight out of the box.

the b20z would be fun too, and you wouldnt have to worry about compression issues that much, maybe the cylinder walls.

IMO B18c1>B20z

[Whiteboy™]

thanks guys and ZC i am getting a quote from mainstream in a day or so

[AnclyT]

this is not even a question..

d15 all the way

[KevinT707]

^^LOL

GSR, then B20 then B16

[Papa_Smurf]

Personally whiteboy, if i were you then i'd start trappin and use that money to buy a B18c5. but thats just me...

[Whiteboy™]

lmao, anyone want some weed? j/k

[cactusEG]

gsr ...

[KevinT707]

Personally whiteboy, if i were you then i'd start trappin and use that money to buy a B18c5. but thats just me...

B18C5 are ghey, only cool because of wow factor but for HP:$ ratio it sucks!

[william_jeff]

B18C5 are ghey, only cool because of wow factor but for HP:$ ratio it sucks!

ditto

[Whiteboy™]

well right now i am looking at a non-vtec b18 swap,

[bigdare23]

well the reason i have the b20 up there is b/c it is a great engine to turbo... and it is a cheap swap

dont b20 have weak sleeves and the b20z has a higher C/R then the b20b........................ I say a no go with the stock b20 with turbo


also why swap in a 3rd gen b16. I hear it's the hardest of the b16's to swap in a EF, plus you got to dummie your engine down and smart'n up your car. (if you dont get that ef obd0 ->obd1, engine obd2->obd1)

[bigdare23]

I say a b20 swap, but it takes a min to find all the parts (you will need a ls ecu, intake manifold, obd0/1 dizzy, and a tranny).


I would do a LS swap first, then save up and get the b20 block and swap everything you need for the b20 off of the b18!

{Oh yeah vtec is so over-rated, your dont get to use it until like 5000rpms LOL}

[spacelion]

B18C5 are ghey, only cool because of wow factor but for HP:$ ratio it sucks!

They cost a lot compared to the C1, yes. But worth it, definitely. But horsepower isn't the only thing that makes up a motor. All the stuff that the C5 comes with from the factory is worth all the money if you add it up. So what if it doesn't put out monster loads of horsepower. Matched with the suspension setups of the Type-R family, they're great factory road/backroad cruisers.

What it really comes down to is what the OP wants to do. If you're going boost, B18C1 all the way. If NA, you could do C1 as well, but if you got money, get the C5. [/$0.02]

[Papa_Smurf]

Just get an H22, start trappin over in Grayson and turbo that bitch. No one could touch you lol.

[bigdare23]

Just get an H22, start trappin over in Grayson and turbo that bitch. No one could touch you lol.

[caseyT]

B20, gsr head youll have torque out the ass then turbo that beast

[1SOL2NV]

id put a zc in it and turbo the zc on like 20 psi and call it a day . ... but if u had the moeny .. b18c5 all the way ....

[efman]

gsr

[twinj]

H2b or K

[2.0civic]

They cost a lot compared to the C1, yes. But worth it, definitely. But horsepower isn't the only thing that makes up a motor. All the stuff that the C5 comes with from the factory is worth all the money if you add it up. So what if it doesn't put out monster loads of horsepower. Matched with the suspension setups of the Type-R family, they're great factory road/backroad cruisers.

What it really comes down to is what the OP wants to do. If you're going boost, B18C1 all the way. If NA, you could do C1 as well, but if you got money, get the C5. [/$0.02]

why would you spend that much more money to get a little different crack and 35-40 HP?? i see your point on the suspension and shit but youre talking apples to oranges.

[2.0civic]

I love how ignorant some of these threads get with bad info and lack of knowledge

[japan4racing]

d15z1....hands down

[BTLFED]

I say the GSR.


But my vote would be for a ZC and then turbo. You can get a complete swap for $750-$1000 then you got left over money for turbo.

This man knows whats up.



And at thinking ANY B series swap is going to be "cheap"

[Echonova]

The Powertec RPA 2.6-litre V8 prototype number one or 'Christine' as Ted Hurrell now refers to it, (after the car from Stephen King's book of the same name!) has produced 363bhp at 10,300rpm on her second visit to the dyno. Maximum torque is 196ft lbs. at 7,000 rpm, but amazingly it is still 165ft lbs. at 4,000rpm and 180ft lbs. at 10,300rpm.


From a V8 that weighs 200 lbs. It's two Hayabusa motors put together. B18C5 FTMFL

[AnclyT]

if you need a swap done... "Vuong's Garage" does B series swaps for $600

check out the sponsor section

[KevinT707]

H22 = best bang for buck

[TallGuy]

^^^^^H22 is a great motor...but out of your 3 id go with the GSR

[BTLFED]

if you need a swap done... "Vuong's Garage" does B series swaps for $600

check out the sponsor section

They will put a B series swap in an EF for $600? That's kinda hard to believe.....

[AnclyT]

$600 for labor ONLY

you provide the motor swap/mounts/axles/etc.

[BTLFED]

Well that makes it a bit more believable....

[turb0teg]

GSR-T FTMFW

:boobies:

[SandM]

d16z6 ftw. green91's turbo z6 was pretty nice. and, if i remember correctly, was fairly inexpensive.

[xlilvi3tx]

i would go for b20/vtec. n gsr would be my second choice