intake- cold air vs. short ram

[dowhatido]

wanted to see what everyones view points are on this subject.

i think cold air is better if u have a car that is already fast off the line (for example if u take a stock d16 and put both intakes on i think the short ram will have more noticable power)

i just put 3" cold air on my civic (gsr) and i am shocked of how big the difference is, but wanted to see what yall have to say about the topic.

[dowhatido]

no1 like my poll....lol, i know turbo is the way to go so fuk both intakes, but me and my boys got into a debate about it, and i still havnt heard the end of it yet

[william_jeff]

because this is a topic covered so many times in so many forums

[dowhatido]

because this is a topic covered so many times in so many forums

well thanx for ur useless remark, not tryin to b a ass, but if u shut off knowledge u wont get any smarter, may be every1 has not seen this topic, and would like to discuss it to help educate others

[bigdare23]

cold air >>> short ram due to pulling cooler air into the motor. The cooler the air, the more power it makes! A short ram is safer because you dont have to worry about hydrolocking your motor!



Oh yeah Honda Tech is your friend! Use it wisely!

[dowhatido]

cold air >>> short ram due to pulling cooler air into the motor. The cooler the air, the more power it makes! A short ram is safer because you dont have to worry about hydrolocking your motor!



Oh yeah Honda Tech is your friend! Use it wisely!

ya i agree all the way i needed this posted up so i could throw it in some1's face they just arent on the same page as me/us, i do use honda tech just more familiar with this site, so we posted thread here so i didnt have to do a lot of searching. oh ya btw u nailed it on the vacuum line if i havnt told u yet

[bigdare23]

ya i agree all the way i needed this posted up so i could throw it in some1's face they just arent on the same page as me/us, i do use honda tech just more familiar with this site, so we posted thread here so i didnt have to do a lot of searching. oh ya btw u nailed it on the vacuum line if i havnt told u yet

I'm glad I was able to help on the vacuum leak thing. Yeah Honda tech is alot better for info then IA.

For now on this is you eg bible
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/642479



{oh yeah get a damn exhaust too, i remember your car being the loudest car out there }

[whatever210]

when i think of cold air vs a short ram i like to think like this. get under a blanket and stay there for a min or two, it gets hard to breath. thats what short ram is basicaly doing. your breathing the warm engine air. as for CAI your breathing fresh cold clean air. so which one do you think youll be better off with. prob the CAI.

[william_jeff]

thats why the search button is your friend

[VteckTuna]

thats why the search button should be your friend

Fixed.

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol

[GTScoob]

Cold air is better for NA motors. For turbo motors a short ram might be better depending on the setup, although the intake is going to heat up in the turbo and then cool off in the intercooler before going into the motor.

[twinj]

To me Short ram. Cold air is worth it to me,between hydrolocking and the extra 3hp isn't worth it.

[GTScoob]

To me Short ram. Cold air is worth it to me,between hydrolocking and the extra 3hp isn't worth it.

So make a custom intake that doesnt put the filter right up underneath the bumper. See if you can route it to the fender, or even rig up some ducting to get cold air onto your filter.

[mxglory258]

So make a custom intake that doesnt put the filter right up underneath the bumper. See if you can route it to the fender, or even rig up some ducting to get cold air onto your filter.

First, cut a big ass hole in your fire wall. Then cut your heating ducts. Make a box where your intake will run right into them. Then Drive around with your AC on everywhere you go! lol

Atleast then with the constant air motion, you wont get condensation, and you'll always have cold air. lol

[twinj]

Ridiculous as that sounds I would want to see someone do that. To bad when you turn the AC on its going to put a load on the engine so i am curious to see how that works.

[Benefit]

turbo

[Sol-Badguy]

turbo

Butthole.

[KevinT707]

Cold Air is the way to go, I've been running the same intake for the past 2 years & have NEVER sucked up any water. The filter is located right in front of the passenger tire & behind the bumper and I don't even have the plastic shield that sits underneath it .. so it gets wet but obviously hasn't sucked up enough water cause my motor has never had problems from hydrolocking.

[Sol-Badguy]

I had a CAI on my Prelude that sucked air from practically UNDER the car.

Never had a problem with water, even on those RAINY nights to the V.

[SLo_MKIII]

CAI w/ bypass so i wouldnt kno if water got sucked up or not

[GaGen2Teg]

CAI w/ bypass power and safety

[hondaxpurt]

personally, i have had both and i seem to notice the short ram more...

[MulattoBoi]

I like SRI better!

[KevinT707]

intakes are overrated ..

[whatever210]

intakes are overrated ..

i guess they are when you have a intercooler.

[Extrememustang]

Im thinking of getting this one.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1208783&rd=1,1


Also ok I see most ppl like the CAI, but doesnt WAI help out on the top end and wouldnt a WAI be better OPPOSED TO the stock box? Also does a intake help gas mileage, Ive head so much on this back and forth.

[Humphrizzle]

you wont get any difference between a cold air and short ram intake.

they just sound better.

god i am kinda confused with some people sometimes.

[si_speed]

SRI with BPi flowstack FTW!

[FCC_Newbie91]

i think cold air is better if u have a car that is already fast off the line (for example if u take a stock d16 and put both intakes on i think the short ram will have more noticable power)

so a short ram would make a bigger difference than a cold air intake on my d16?

[henryjkim]

heat soak ftl

[Andy_013]

cold air intake sounds alot better @ 5000 rpm.

[4doortypels]

Well i vote CAI with a bypass valve and a hydrosheild for a dry element filter. should sufice

[bRiAnMcIvIcS]

Short ram dude. What is 2hp gonna matter? I dont think you wanna hydro lock your motor for a measly 2hp anyways, do you? J's racing CF intake all the way! Besides its just an intake not a turbo.Lmao!

[an0therh22]

password jdm or ARC intakes. both short and both with great numbers. alot of members have the whale penis on here. i voted short ram obvioulsy.

[Sol-Badguy]

Yeah, I wish I could afford an ARC box.

[an0therh22]

Yeah, I wish I could afford an ARC box.

that is just about the sexiest thing you can put into your engine bay. besides a log manifold.

[12'S_ON_24'S]

you suck

[bowdown201]

I have CAI on mine and havent had any problems with hydrolocking or nething but yea theres really not much differance though

[Benefit]

i agree with the people who have said hydrolocking is not worth the .3whp...ive seen it happen.

if you run a CAI , definitely invest into a bypass filter also...

i know this though...

this 5$ intake
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-01...spagenameZWDVW

vs. this 1000$ intake
http://cgi.ebay.com/MUGEN-INTAKE-SYS...QQcmdZViewItem

and the power gains will be very minimal between the two.