AWD 350z

[LSR]

so im lookin to come out with somehin serious when i get back from boot camp...

AWD RB26 swap Z33?

what do yall think?

[HalfBaked]

I think you'd be wasting your time and money.

[LSR]

I think you'd be wasting your time and money.

what makes you say that?

[HalfBaked]

You think it is cheap to do??

You think its easy to do?

[LSR]

You think it is cheap to do??

You think its easy to do?

nah i know its not cheap or easy but daz not my concern... money isnt the issue... my concern is performance.

[Krazykouki]

Not worth it. RB26 power train is not small by any means, you would basically have to put the ENTIRE front Subframe out of a GTR/GTS4 under the front of your Z. You know how many people say money is not an issue but when you say they need a 400$ axle they bitch and complain.

[tony]

Definitely better things to spend your money on

[slowrolla97]

You would be better off trying to retrofit the drivetrain from a G35x.

Still a waste tho.

[AFSil80]

nah i know its not cheap or easy but daz not my concern... money isnt the issue... my concern is performance.

Ahh, good ol' recruit. They always get these delusions of grandeur that they will be banking like rap stars when they get out of basic.

News flash: I'm an E-4, dead ass broke with a run of the mill 240SX. You won't be making shit at E-2/3 pay grade, unless you stay deployed to a tax free AOR for a year where there's nothing to blow your money on. Even then, it's a stretch to make it all come together.

[Frög]

better off geting a 911 turbo

[thursdaybuff]

if money is not an issue, why don't you just buy an r34?

[seriousb13]

[Extrememustang]

Omg I remember reading about thr 450z rumor, a v8 z.

[BABY J]

It's not stupid. As long it make syou happy when you turn the key fuck what every1 else says. Do what you want - just do your homework. Personally I am tired of seeing the same old shit. The odds are against you, but if that's just the kinda thing that makes you tick then 1) have a backup car 2) have SHIT TONS of patience 3) have the best fab guys on the planet (link up w/ mini-truck guys) and 4) go for it

Good luck - you will need it.

[Krazykouki]

Omg I remember reading about thr 450z rumor, a v8 z.

Thats not a rumor. AXE Powers car. VH45DETT 5 speed in a 300zx. Owner of AXE is Slim. The car is capable of 200+ . I have seen what that car can do, we used to go messin around industrial parks/285/400/20 in the early am back in the day when most of you guys where worring about school...

[Big Baller]

if money is not an issue, why don't you just buy an r34?

Because money is always an issue. People always say that and then they get a 70k dollar bill and all the sudden its an issue.

Matt

[Kyle]

Why not just turbocharge your motor?

[AFSil80]

Thats not a rumor. AXE Powers car. VH45DETT 5 speed in a 300zx. Owner of AXE is Slim. The car is capable of 200+ . I have seen what that car can do, we used to go messin around industrial parks/285/400/20 in the early am back in the day when most of you guys where worring about school...

That car is the shit. I got a video of it on my comp, I remember when it was posted on FreshAlloy a few years ago.

[Frög]

Thats not a rumor. AXE Powers car. VH45DETT 5 speed in a 300zx. Owner of AXE is Slim. The car is capable of 200+ . I have seen what that car can do, we used to go messin around industrial parks/285/400/20 in the early am back in the day when most of you guys where worring about school...

damn..

That car is the shit. I got a video of it on my comp, I remember when it was posted on FreshAlloy a few years ago.

show us the vid

[MR. 200SX]

Be better off buying the new GTR that is coming to the states.

[thursdaybuff]

show us the vid

2nd. I'm curious to see it too.

[BuBBa DRiFT]

so im lookin to come out with somehin serious when i get back from boot camp...

AWD RB26 swap Z33?

what do yall think?

i think your biting off the z33 of this months super street

[Benefit]

like some of the other guys said , you would be better off buying the new skyline or importing one with the amount of money you would spend doing the awd rb26dett 350z

[sebastianHoff]

i dont know what your recruiter told you, but after basic you arent going to have enough money to take a shit let alone cut up a z33.

[MistaCee]

You have a great engine in that 350 to work on. Imo theres no need to swap it out

[BuBBa DRiFT]

im guessing your getting 20gs after AIT you dont get shit until your worth something to the military

[LSR]

It's not stupid. As long it make syou happy when you turn the key fuck what every1 else says. Do what you want - just do your homework. Personally I am tired of seeing the same old shit. The odds are against you, but if that's just the kinda thing that makes you tick then 1) have a backup car 2) have SHIT TONS of patience 3) have the best fab guys on the planet (link up w/ mini-truck guys) and 4) go for it

Good luck - you will need it.

thanks. ive been doin a lot of research and im debating on if i should go thru with it or twin turbo my explorer..[4.6l v8]

[LSR]

i think your biting off the z33 of this months super street

actually its odd.. i didnt see that issue until the day after i thought it up. my friend gave my the idea after a convo about a car with 4 seperate engines for each wheel.

[LSR]

oh and by the way.. i didnt say i was going to use the money i get after boot camp. i simply said after boot camp... reason being: i leave for boot camp in july and it would be pointles to start now knowing it wouldnt be finished by then. so im waitin until after.

[EJ25RUN]

so im lookin to come out with somehin serious when i get back from boot camp...

AWD RB26 swap Z33?

what do yall think?

its been done!

JUN JUN Hyper Lemon 350Z-R VQ35DE but still)

[Black95s14]

I say go for it. Make it a fun project car. Who cares if it takes a long time and cost a lot, if you have those resources more power to you. Whats fun in getting a car and having everything done to it you want in less then a year.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Buy a skyline with the money. By the time you bastardise the Z to the point that it will all work it won't handle all that well without a good bit more work. Many people think the AWD system and the RB motors are easy to retrofit into things but thats only because they have no working knowledge of the systems involved. I agree with some others that you should retrofit the G35x system and turbo your motor. More power, easier to find parts for, still lighter than the RB based setup, better performance. I've done enough with skylines and they're systems to know that even when your done there are many cars that will out run and out handle you with less money invested.

[Krazykouki]

Buy a skyline with the money. By the time you bastardise the Z to the point that it will all work it won't handle all that well without a good bit more work. Many people think the AWD system and the RB motors are easy to retrofit into things but thats only because they have no working knowledge of the systems involved. I agree with some others that you should retrofit the G35x system and turbo your motor. More power, easier to find parts for, still lighter than the RB based setup, better performance. I've done enough with skylines and they're systems to know that even when your done there are many cars that will out run and out handle you with less money invested.

Agreed.

[LSR]

fast cars are built not bought... besides... its not all about the speed for me.. i just want a challenge. something to work on. but for all those doubting or downin the idea... just wait iight...

[Krazykouki]

fast cars are built not bought... besides... its not all about the speed for me.. i just want a challenge. something to work on. but for all those doubting or downin the idea... just wait iight...

I hope you have AT LEAST 20k+. I'm not downing it, I just don't think you are going to waste that much money. I also do not think you understand the complexity of what you are getting yourself into.

Facts:

Wheelbase:
104.3 Nissan 350z
103 R32 GTR
107 R33 GTR
104.9 R34 GTR

Engine Weight:
VQ35 appx. 400 pounds
RB26 appx. 720 Pounds

Obviously you would more than likely have to get the R34 Configuration because an R34 GTR's wheel base is similar and the AWD configuration is quite complex, it cannot be modified that much do to the front differential is made into the oil pan just as all GTR's have a differential in the oil pan. With the GTR being twin turbo, the turbo's are on the same side as your steering column. The Transmission is 2 times with width of the stock VQ tranny because it has a bulge of a transfer case on its side. Thats just some of the facts before you get in over your head. Keep in mind that an R34 Drive train WILL cost you at LEAST 10k+. You could go with an R32 drive train but that will definitely need to be modified because the crankshaft snout issue. There are ways to do what you want. I listed the long expensive ways. A cheap way would be to get a GTS4 or Steaga drive train...they come with smaller motors RB20/Neo RB25 but you could sale that engine and get the RB26 and use the GTS4 drive train, the tranny is the same as a GTR but its cheaper because it doesn't come with the RB26 attached...weird I know but thats how they work. Like I said, I'm not downing your plans, just putting some insight on whats to come.

[AFSil80]

fast cars are built not bought... besides... its not all about the speed for me.. i just want a challenge. something to work on. but for all those doubting or downin the idea... just wait iight...

Bro, take it from someone else that's been in the military for 3 1/2 years already.

You will deploy a lot unless you hold a desk job in the USAF. Hell, I'm Air Force and I've been gone 8 out the last 10 months. My 240SX is on jackstands in my garage with one engine still in the UK, and another stuck in customs right now. The reason I mention these facts is because it shows that the military will make you put personal things on hold if it's in the military's best interest.

My point is this:

You're going in the military, so the following facts will apply:

a) You won't get paid shit.
b) You won't be around much to work on the car unless you're in a USAF desk job.
c) Living in the barracks/dorms and having a project car is about as easy as defusing a bomb with a pitbull chewing off your nutsack.
d) You come to grips with the reality that you are a soldier first, and you are never TRULY off duty. You can get recalled back at any time, any day, any place and get punished for failing to do so. This makes it hard to get out to race, or dedicate an entire day to working on the car.

I know you want to build an awesome, badass car. I wanted my S13 to be a full fledged track car, and I still do. But I learned a hard lesson that a project car takes time for a younger, single military person, and I've caught a lot of flak from a lot of different people in the process. (I'm sure Ryan Reynolds will agree )

I just don't want you getting your hopes up, only to have them dashed to pieces when reality hits you the day you've taken a sawz-all to your car and caused damage you can't fix, and you're left with a worthless chassis and no money to pay anyone to repair it.

[/soapbox]

And for those asking about the video of the 450ZX TT.

If y'all can wait a couple weeks for me to get back from this current TDY I'm on (see a trend, here?), I'll post it up on here.

[DVSRX-7]

It's not stupid. As long it make syou happy when you turn the key fuck what every1 else says. Do what you want - just do your homework. Personally I am tired of seeing the same old shit. The odds are against you, but if that's just the kinda thing that makes you tick then 1) have a backup car 2) have SHIT TONS of patience 3) have the best fab guys on the planet (link up w/ mini-truck guys) and 4) go for it

Good luck - you will need it.

^^^ hes rite jus follow your dreams and let every1 suk yo dik wen your driving you awd 350z.... look at smoky nagata 4rm the topsecret garage and his v12 supra.. he did his homwork b4 coming out with that monster of car...now u jus follow your fukn dream and go kill r32s,r33s,and r34s for there parts transplant to your 350z... good luck and get at me wen your done i want to test drive it too!!!!!!!! lol

[AFSil80]

^^^ hes rite jus follow your dreams and let every1 suk yo dik wen your driving you awd 350z.... look at smoky nagata 4rm the topsecret garage and his v12 supra.. he did his homwork b4 coming out with that monster of car...now u jus follow your fukn dream and go kill r32s,r33s,and r34s for there parts transplant to your 350z... good luck and get at me wen your done i want to test drive it too!!!!!!!! lol

You're a fucking idiot.

Nagata owns his shop. This guy doesn't. You're obviously too stupid to see the financial differences. Step back from the keyboard and get back to reading your issue of Super Street.

[TheSnail]

I hope you dont think that just mechanically fabricating whatever, and have AWD will work. The AWD is not mechanical 50/50 split as you may think. A GTR is RWD until the attesa system senses slipping then shoots power to the front wheels. This is x 4, meaning if it senses the back right tire spinning it sends the extra power until it stops spinning to the other three with in milliseconds. I dont know if you have seen attesa system wiring but it has its own ecu and the harness is twice as big as the engine harness. Then when all said and done you have to have sensors for the attesa system which are like ABS sensors on all 4 corners. Not to mention matching the gear ratios between the two diffs. Anyways, get a turbo kit or something, stop dreaming. Dont waste your time, I dont know why I did, typing this.

[GTScoob]

People have done the AWD RB26 swaps into the older Z cars but again they required massive amounts of fabrication.