Quote Originally Posted by Kyle
Are you saying that boosted the motor is more powerful? Its not boosted though. If so you are comparing two different things. And if so we can talk about boosting vw's 2.8liter.

If you are simply talkinga about that car stock vs. a GTI 1.8T stock then you are mistaken my friend.

Because 180hp>157hp every day of the week. And with 2k in mods done to each car the GTI will own the TC.

And the weight difference is not large at all, the scion is 2905 lbs. and the GTI is 2932lbs. Not a big deal.

Yes boosted it has much more potential then the VW I4 no doubt ab it. its not really comparing 2 seperate things when you are speaking of the power potential of each motor. Sure the VR6 can make more power, it has 2 extra cylinders ...we are comparing your car to a TC

well if you want to get technical, the factory rated the TC at 160hp/163tq and your 1.8t in the 2001 model year was rated at 150hp/155tq respectively...so i dont see your arguement there....infact the TC has you beat, and N/A at that..also if you're wanting to argue the 2002 1.8t and its 180hp rating, Toyota offers a factory standered option of a TRD supercharger for a small sum of $3000 added to the sticker price of the car....it retains the factory warranty and adds (with a small amount of boost) ~50+ hp. so 160>150 and 210>180, any day of the week!

Straight from car and driver in 2001: "The GTI feels faster than it really is, however. Zero to 60 mph takes 8.5 seconds, and the quarter-mile arrives in a leisurely 16.5 seconds at 84.3 mph" The TC does the 1/4 BONE STOCK in 15.7 (as tested by Sport compact car) and 0-60 takes almost a second less at 7.8 secs.....so you lose here too

shall i go on?