Typos occur with high gravity beer late at night. And its not a ford completely. You know this. But thats not the point. I was referring to the typical response of some IA members. Your follow up responses just confirm to others that a lot of IA members are rude brusque people. Don't be mean. Realize that its not productive as community to have a reputation like this. Its easy to snap off at noobs well being noobs. But we were all there at one point. Would you have wanted to be treated this way? Be the better person. thks DJMM