You are a post whore on the other site lolOriginally Posted by Bacon
Of course, I think the newnan guys are the only ones that frequently post on IA now....
You are a post whore on the other site lol
Of course, I think the newnan guys are the only ones that frequently post on IA now....
// 2011 United Grey GTI 6MT // APR Stage II+ // APR Carbonio Stage I & II Intake // APR Turboback Exhaust // VWR Subframe Mount // South Bend Stage 3 Daily Clutch // R8 Coil Packs // Color Matched Side Markers // Golf R Upper Grille // BBS CH //
....just kidding. I have a S2000 now
What other site?
DAO?
dao sucks.....
Yeah just wondering what the other site was...
Where have you been
not ronel. this is steve, ive hacked his account
He's been falling on rocks. lol
I actually posted that under his account.
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i lost everyones number, so if you want to keep in touch with me, please text me your number! I had to reset my phone cause it was having memory problems, and i lost all numbers
Joes previous post is null and void.
Apparently I'm the "newnan crew" directory..... lol
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(i know i should edit my last post but i'm too lazy and feel this post is important enough to be separate)
I need 7 more rep points to hit 1000!!!
send them my way plz gentlemen!!!
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Coob's stuff (at least mine) takes 45 seconds to change with upgrades. IE: add an exhaust, plug in the AP, scroll down, put in the new tune in. I ran the race gas tune for a few days last week. It took longer to full the car up than it did to change the sioftware program.
Falling on rocks?
He hurt himself or something else?
fuck ya you are, ur the only number i could remember off the top of my head (thanks to playing MW2 all the time.)
But anywho, i still need some numbers, so if you want to talk to me send me a text.
It's newnan street racer thugs get it rite
fuck AP. Its great for people just looking for simplicity and/or just a bit more power out out of their car. First off, the AP maps are super conservative and typically just add fuel too richen up the AF ratio and throw some more boost into the mix. Get rid of the OL/CL delay and add just a touch more timing (most suby tuners will tell you its typically more advantageous to add less boost and more timing- this probably has something to do with the innefficiency of the small IHI and TD04 turbos that subaru uses at higher boost levels). More power/ safer than stock tune? Absolutely. But its VERY generic and its best results is when used by a professional to tune with. Something any tuner can do with a laptop and Tactrix cable (which is a HELLOVA lot cheaper than $595 for an AP). In short, once the AP is put in its only halfway tuned for $600- you now have to pay an additional $3-600 (varies on tuner) to get fully tuned and realize the full benefits associated with it. I don't doubt you made gains with it just plugging it up. I don't doubt the car is noticeably quicker. I'm just saying you spent $595 and only got halfway tuned (no offense!).
What i meant by upgrades that adversley affect tune is mainly a larger intercooler and possibly a different intake. The intercooler, as you know, doesn't add power. Its a supporting mod. It allows you to add more boost and still keep the intake temps lower despite the turbo's output being hotter. If i add an intercooler post-tune i'm missing a few pounds of boost i could be running. As for the intake- being an educated suby owner you should know that our cars MAF is one picky/finicky mother fucker, and any adjustments or changes to the intake has the potental to throw a well tuned car into a tizzy.
Now i've read (just this past week or two) of two different WELL DOCUMENTED accounts to back up both points.
One guy had a typical Stage 2 setup plus a few other odds and ends and made 228hp and 217tq with a Cobb OTS map. He got tuned and jumped to 238hp and 270tq!!! See what i mean by halfway tuned? And he's not the only one.
Link for refference: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hlight=238+270
If your on NASIOC you've undoubtedly heard of "Unabomber." He had a stage 2 car plus intercooler, header, pulley, and a few other (minor) things with his OTS Cobb map. On the SAME dyno, on the SAME day, BACK TO BACK, he made the same power as several other stage 2 (no intercooler, pulley, etc) wrx's also with the cobb ots map.
Thread reference: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ight=same+dyno
I'm not trying to start a war or anything, but I figured if I was gonna make a comment like "fuck AP" I better have a few reasons and/or examples. lol
Again, no offense.
yeah. playing airsoft
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no....not dao
// 2011 United Grey GTI 6MT // APR Stage II+ // APR Carbonio Stage I & II Intake // APR Turboback Exhaust // VWR Subframe Mount // South Bend Stage 3 Daily Clutch // R8 Coil Packs // Color Matched Side Markers // Golf R Upper Grille // BBS CH //
....just kidding. I have a S2000 now
You still dead set on a miata?
Or have you already got one?
Anyone have a line on some 235/85/R16 tires???
The Shitbox
Swap is done and I am finally driving it now. Only pics are on my phone at the moment though. For info on other site, PM me. It's not really a low key site but not gonna throw it out on here.
you know....
I got to thinking about it, Dumont, and there is a large application for the AP in the suby world: 06+ cars.
I'm not too up on the specifics since most engine info/number/software do not pertain to my EJ205 or older ECU, but i do know this: the STOCK tune on these cars is absolutely horrible. Completely stock cars are know to have knock issues, SEVERE OL/CL issues, and just generally not good (performance) driveablilty. Before ANY mod can be done, something needs to be done about the EM since any down pipe will create havoc on the car. Plugging in AP would make the car "stage 1" and "fix" subaru's factory tune issues. (more power can still be had with a full tune, but forget that for a moment). At this point it is now safe to add TBE (and certain intakes if desired) and since you already have the AP to correct prior issues, load the appropriate "stage 2" map into the ecu. Your still in the same boat as being halfway tuned, but that initial $595 allowed you to 1) make slight gains w/o bolt-ons 2) actually made it safe to do bolt-ons and be halway tuned to get a bit more power out of it and 3) its still there as a tool for your tuner to properly tune your car with.
In this case the $600 was worth it because it made itself super useful in several circumstances. So maybe my initail response of "fuck AP" was a bit hasty, but considering my application (02-03 car) i have more options and can be slightly more picky about my tuning solutions. once again- no offense.
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I agree. Low key=best choice on IA. Don't want unwanted people over there.
// 2011 United Grey GTI 6MT // APR Stage II+ // APR Carbonio Stage I & II Intake // APR Turboback Exhaust // VWR Subframe Mount // South Bend Stage 3 Daily Clutch // R8 Coil Packs // Color Matched Side Markers // Golf R Upper Grille // BBS CH //
....just kidding. I have a S2000 now
Might get to meet you sometime or does your job not align with the meet?
depends on what my boss works out. sometimes i get off and sometimes i don't. next weekend I am off and should be off friday night and will be coming out to the meet baring unforeseen circumstances. shit happens though so we will see.
mine runs like a banshee, I am happy with the 93 and race program...... I am satisfied and probably going to stop on this car (except for the new wheels)
That's what we all say...don't even try to lie to yourself. Even though it's supposed to be the "wife's" car, the urge to add something new will always be there, especially once you join NASIOC or something. That's my addition therefore I have given myself a temp ban from EvoM. Lol.
i spend half an hour typing all that shit up, and that's all you have to say?!??!?!?!? wtf? lol jk
I want a ride one day, dumont. PLZ????
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Anyone know of a cash and carry tire shop around?
The Shitbox
new/used? what size?
hey shroeder, your truck is looking fantastic, i was going to burn the midnight oil, but with this storm, i didnt watn to be in the basement if the lights went out (freaks the shit outta me.)
All i have to finish is the interior, dress the underhood, the rear tail gate, and do a coat of Auto glym Super resin polish and HD wax. But i want till tuesday to play with it.
I need a new phone.....
I wonder how good of an idea it was to send my mother to go inquire on pricing and deals at verizon.....
I guess we'll find out.
EDIT: and thanX for the reps guys!!!!!
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Doesnt matter on new or used as long as they have at least 75% tread left. 235/85/R16
I have a set on order through Kauffman, but if I find a better deal before Thurs, I'll go with that.
It's all good with me! Just let me know if you want me to pick it up in the morning tomorrow, or the morning of Wed.
The Shitbox
Have you not seen what kind of punishment I can put a car through? I gotta have one stock vehicle with a warranty
AP and warranty.... LOL
another pro for it I guess.: easy to revert back to stock
Two of the most homo cars on IAFaggin' Wagon & Queer Kar
yup yup
I hate Dora The Explorer... My niece fucking loves it (2 yrs old) and it makes me want to shoot myself.
Do it.................
Damn work had to interfere with my plans Friday night. Three dispatchers had to go on vacation at the same time. Oh well. I will be at the show Saturday though.
hahahahaha wth would you try and do that for?
I love how they really tried to brace the ramps with jackstands!
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