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    Ok...just gonna put all of this in a non-bitchy way this time because I've actually gotten some rest and feel a bit better now.

    I am well aware that upon getting this ECU upgrade, I could possibly void my warranty. I read up on vwvortex, golfmk6, myfastgti, etc. ...I have, in fact, done my homework on this stuff before jumping into it. I flat out told my VW service guy what I had the second I walked in the door because I knew they'd find it eventually. I have my intake which can be clearly seen, plus my APR sticker on the back. It would've been obvious for them to check. He told me no problem and not to worry about it. It would be "our little secret". They may still end up voiding my warranty, I don't know. It doesn't really matter either way though because that's what you risk with these upgrades. I knew that before I got my Stage I. I talked about it with Ryan over at APR and he said the same thing you guys are saying. It's not news to me. You gotta pay to play...simple as that.

    I am also aware of the car I am driving. German cars are not cheap by any means, but I think they're worth the extra just from the performance and quality you get out of them. That's why I bought my car. It brings me more enjoyment than anything else ever has (including the 911). I'll probably be more than happy to drop the money on this car when I need to. For now though, if they're not bothered by my APR stuff and are still willing to honor my warranty, then I'm not gonna bring it up again until they do.

    Sorry for the attitude last night, Daniel. I was in a really pissy mood and running on very little sleep. I didn't mean to direct any of that towards you or anyone else.


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    ....just kidding. I have a S2000 now

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxie911 View Post
    Ok...just gonna put all of this in a non-bitchy way this time because I've actually gotten some rest and feel a bit better now.

    I am well aware that upon getting this ECU upgrade, I could possibly void my warranty. I read up on vwvortex, golfmk6, myfastgti, etc. ...I have, in fact, done my homework on this stuff before jumping into it. I flat out told my VW service guy what I had the second I walked in the door because I knew they'd find it eventually. I have my intake which can be clearly seen, plus my APR sticker on the back. It would've been obvious for them to check. He told me no problem and not to worry about it. It would be "our little secret". They may still end up voiding my warranty, I don't know. It doesn't really matter either way though because that's what you risk with these upgrades. I knew that before I got my Stage I. I talked about it with Ryan over at APR and he said the same thing you guys are saying. It's not news to me. You gotta pay to play...simple as that.

    I am also aware of the car I am driving. German cars are not cheap by any means, but I think they're worth the extra just from the performance and quality you get out of them. That's why I bought my car. It brings me more enjoyment than anything else ever has (including the 911). I'll probably be more than happy to drop the money on this car when I need to. For now though, if they're not bothered by my APR stuff and are still willing to honor my warranty, then I'm not gonna bring it up again until they do.

    Sorry for the attitude last night, Daniel. I was in a really pissy mood and running on very little sleep. I didn't mean to direct any of that towards you or anyone else.
    That was about as mature and well said as you could possibly responded. +1

    Glad you like your VDUB! I hate to love my Audi lol

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    i Guess I missed the Drama:

    Fact: VW's break, I have owned and raced them for years. They all broke at some point, like all European cars do. And when they break, its expensive, like all European Cars (including my 2 BMW's)
    Fact: Most dealers (VW included) can see software on an ECU, its a file that is visible whenever loded into the ECU. Weather it is active or inactive, makes no difference, its there. If its there, it voids the warranty. Same as Mitzu, same as Audi, same as Subaru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
    That was about as mature and well said as you could possibly responded. +1

    Glad you like your VDUB! I hate to love my Audi lol
    I agree!
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    but I think they're worth the extra just from the performance and quality you get out of them. .
    hahah you said German cars are quality! hahaha

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    Dumont, no one is saying you're wrong or doubting you?

    And all cars break. Some are just more expensive to fix than others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
    That was about as mature and well said as you could possibly responded. +1

    Glad you like your VDUB! I hate to love my Audi lol
    Thank you, sir.

    And I love my Vdub! She's high maintenance, but so worth it!!


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    ....just kidding. I have a S2000 now

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxie911 View Post

    And all cars break. Some are just more expensive to fix than others.
    Yeah, tell me about it. My sisters car (mkiv golf) has basically been in the shop every week for the last couple months. Some module went bad and the shop said that it is a part that can only be bought through VW and that you sometimes have to go through 3,4, or 5 different modules until you get one that works.

    Whether it is true or not I don't know, but that damn car breaks down every other day! It is giving me a bad taste for VW's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theothersawyer View Post
    Yeah, tell me about it. My sisters car (mkiv golf) has basically been in the shop every week for the last couple months. Some module went bad and the shop said that it is a part that can only be bought through VW and that you sometimes have to go through 3,4, or 5 different modules until you get one that works.

    Whether it is true or not I don't know, but that damn car breaks down every other day! It is giving me a bad taste for VW's.
    I should have listened to steve when he said "stay away from B5 S4's". I bought it with a slight misfire. Changed the coilpacks now I have a nasty misfire. Changed spark plugs and gapped them, no change. No I run super rich and get awful gas mileage and still have a misfire lol

    Now it's trial and error, ICM's, EGT's, 02 sensors etc. Hopefully it'll be fixed this weekend..then it's off to allspeed for a smoke machine test to see where my boost leak is coming from. THEN I SHOULD be okay..maybe..for 5minutes. Ha!

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    The mkiv sucks. It really does. I haven't heard of a good story from any mkiv, to be honest haha Which sucks because it's one of my favorite body styles. It's just like the 996 for Porsche. Some of them have been maintained well, so they're not as bad, but still...


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    ....just kidding. I have a S2000 now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
    I should have listened to steve when he said "stay away from B5 S4's".!
    one of the main reasons I bought a Miata. Now matter what you do these cars run forever and swapping in a used engine costs only $500!
    ^^^ one of the main reasons I bought a Miata. Now matter what you do these cars run forever and swapping in a used engine costs only $500!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxie911 View Post
    The mkiv sucks. It really does. I haven't heard of a good story from any mkiv, to be honest haha Which sucks because the it's one of my favorite body styles. It's just like the 996 for Porsche. Some of them have been maintained well, so they're not as bad, but still...
    Yeah, we found that out the hard way. For some reason though, she wants to sell her car and get another golf...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theothersawyer View Post
    ^^^ one of the main reasons I bought a Miata. Now matter what you do these cars run forever and swapping in a used engine costs only $500!
    No joke my coilpacks and spark plugs are about $500 after taxes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theothersawyer View Post
    one of the main reasons I bought a Miata. Now matter what you do these cars run forever and swapping in a used engine costs only $500!
    If you enjoy your car and it's cheap, then more power to you! The Miata just didn't do it for me. I wasn't in love with it (I actually hated it), and I don't regret getting rid of it one bit. I'd rather pay more for what I love than less for something I hate (I don't wanna pay anything for something I hate haha).

    Quote Originally Posted by Theothersawyer View Post
    Yeah, we found that out the hard way. For some reason though, she wants to sell her car and get another golf...
    It's like what I said above...some people just want a car they love. Regardless of the stress and cost.


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    ....just kidding. I have a S2000 now

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    My comment about my car was not directed at you at all, so I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I'm glad you have a car you love now.

    The only reason my sister wants another golf is because they are "cute". I think I have managed to talk her into wanting a Mazda3 though, but the problem is finding one in her price range.

    So I parked next to an NC Miata today (3rd gen, the year that my front bumper comes from) and I took a picture, but it is kinda dark and shitty, but you get the idea.

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    My bad...I thought it was directed towards both of us since we were all pretty much talking about the same thing.
    I was just throwing my input in.


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    ....just kidding. I have a S2000 now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theothersawyer View Post
    My comment about my car was not directed at you at all, so I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I'm glad you have a car you love now.

    The only reason my sister wants another golf is because they are "cute". I think I have managed to talk her into wanting a Mazda3 though, but the problem is finding one in her price range.

    So I parked next to an NC Miata today (3rd gen, the year that my front bumper comes from) and I took a picture, but it is kinda dark and shitty, but you get the idea.
    First comment came off rude but funny as hell lol

    LB has good taste, VW's are awesome.

    And your miata looks better than that one IMO

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    James, have you checked the timing to see if it's off? IIRC, you said the timing belt has already been done? I would be curious if one of the camshafts timing is off a tooth? Only way to find out though is to pull the timing covers off and check. You could also compare the compression on bank 1 vs bank 2. If one is notably higher than another then timing is more likely off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
    First comment came off rude but funny as hell lol

    LB has good taste, VW's are awesome.

    And your miata looks better than that one IMO
    Ha, I love those damn Jettas, even though neither of them run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
    First comment came off rude but funny as hell lol

    LB has good taste, VW's are awesome.

    And your miata looks better than that one IMO
    Lol I didn't really mean to come off as rude, but looking back it totally sounds that way! So, sorry Roxie if I sounded like an ass

    And the mkiv golf I was talking about is my other sisters, but I forgot Laurabeth has two VW's as well. haha

    Thank you!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theothersawyer View Post
    Lol I didn't really mean to come off as rude, but looking back it totally sounds that way! So, sorry Roxie if I sounded like an ass
    Danny stop being a dick... lol jk
    So is all of this talk about changing the stock computer or adding a supplimental one with the data... and what's APR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeFryRice View Post
    James, have you checked the timing to see if it's off? IIRC, you said the timing belt has already been done? I would be curious if one of the camshafts timing is off a tooth? Only way to find out though is to pull the timing covers off and check. You could also compare the compression on bank 1 vs bank 2. If one is notably higher than another then timing is more likely off.
    It has. I'll give you a shout tomorrow, when's a good time to bring it by for a diagnostic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbuba View Post
    Danny stop being a dick... lol jk
    So is all of this talk about changing the stock computer or adding a supplimental one with the data... and what's APR?

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    ....just kidding. I have a S2000 now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
    It has. I'll give you a shout tomorrow, when's a good time to bring it by for a diagnostic?

    Has anybody datalogged anything from your car? or is that part of your trip to allspeed? I've had a cars have misfire issues due to a dead/dying O2 sensor, but never get a code for the O2 sensor... I hate to know how much each one costs....
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    Dumont, if you are still interested let me know. I am available all weekend except at night.
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    New #s being rumored......
    662hp 630ftlbs

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    And it is official! http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/26/2...30-pound-feet/
    *UPDATE: We've received an official press release from Ford quoting power figures of 662 horsepower and 631 pound-feet of torque, making the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500's engine the most powerful production V8 in the world. Ford is also keen to point out that the 2013 GT500 is one mpg more fuel efficient, both city and highway, than the 2012 model and five mpg better than the Camaro ZL1. Scroll down for the complete press release.
    662hp and 631lb/ft!

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    Holy shit! Can't wait to see Mopars reply...

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    "395 lb.-ft. of torque available just off idle at 1,000 rpm."

    That does sound pretty neat. I cant wait to try out the new gearing. 62mph in 1st gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHHHH View Post
    That does sound pretty neat. I cant wait to try out the new gearing. 62mph in 1st gear
    At what rpm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbuba View Post
    At what rpm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by h23bb2 View Post
    Has anybody datalogged anything from your car? or is that part of your trip to allspeed? I've had a cars have misfire issues due to a dead/dying O2 sensor, but never get a code for the O2 sensor... I hate to know how much each one costs....
    Roughly $1500 for replacement of all four (parts & labor).


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    Quote Originally Posted by MeFryRice View Post
    Roughly $1500 for replacement of all four (parts & labor).
    This is why DIY forums are a Godsend lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeFryRice View Post
    Roughly $1500 for replacement of all four (parts & labor).
    my browser just shut down when it seem that....
    That's insane...
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    That's about what a customer paid when we replaced all four of his at once. We have one customer who is a complete waste of fresh air that bought a B5 S4 knowing it had a blown turbo on the driver side. He called in asking what it would cost to get it replaced. IIRC, it was something like 16.5 hrs as it calls for removal of the engine. I love Audi but that B5 chassis is a royal money pit. EVERYTHING will break and bend you over each time you take it in for service.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MeFryRice View Post
    That's about what a customer paid when we replaced all four of his at once. We have one customer who is a complete waste of fresh air that bought a B5 S4 knowing it had a blown turbo on the driver side. He called in asking what it would cost to get it replaced. IIRC, it was something like 16.5 hrs as it calls for removal of the engine. I love Audi but that B5 chassis is a royal money pit. EVERYTHING will break and bend you over each time you take it in for service.
    Yup. Lol

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    Anyone going to the Mitty tomorrow?

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    wow, you guys actually put up pics of functional cars too? lol

    Good stuff- I'm glad I went!
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