I'm with ^^^^^. Also, you are right. I am going to say that you can still see them just fine when lit up. The picture makes them look MUCH darker then they really are. When the lights are on or the brake pedal depressed you can hardly tell they are tinted. Also, only in a blue moon will my wife and kids be in this car. If we are all together then we take the minivan my wife drives. I may have the kids in my car once (or less) a month. Usually once every 2 to 3 months.