These people that are naming all the suspense/scary movies have a very narrow mind on movies or something. Those movies were very good. Maybe not the best, but certainly not near the worst. And to whoever said that Ghost Ship was the worst, come on, you thought Napoleon Dynamite was good. So where did your credibility go? I'll tell ya where it went. Right out the window with my rented copy of that toilet paper roll of film. Later, QD.