Has music lost it's intrinsic genuiness?

[green91]

Nope. You don't have to go back to the 1990s. You need to go about another decade further back to find that last of the talented.

I disagree!!!
Examples:

[quickdodge®]

There is more talent now then ever before on all Genre's.

No sir, Julizzle. Today's "talent" can't get by on just vocals alone without having to have some auto-tune crap to help it along. Especially in rap and pop music. Aside from songs scattered here and there from the previous million decades of music, pretty much everyone was damn near on point. I was flipping channels the other night and stopped on X-Factor when Britanny Spears sang "Happy Birthday" to LA Reid and it was completely horrible. Creativity is a big part of talent and it does lack in today's music.

I disagree!!!
Examples:

Your "examples" only further my point. Lolol.

[05dc5s]

No sir, Julizzle. Today's "talent" can't get by on just vocals alone without having to have some auto-tune crap to help it along. Especially in rap and pop music. Aside from songs scattered here and there from the previous million decades of music, pretty much everyone was damn near on point. I was flipping channels the other night and stopped on X-Factor when Britanny Spears sang "Happy Birthday" to LA Reid and it was completely horrible. Creativity is a big part of talent and it does lack in today's music.

I totally agree and this is what I was asking. Are you going to only have what it seems current pop has to offer or will this perhaps just be considered a fairly dark age of music.

Your "examples" only further my point. Lolol.

Well, Joe Satriani would be and example of someone that I was referring to in my earlier post. Someone that's a master of their craft with an intrinsic value, a high level of talent, and an execution that inspires another generation to do like he has.

[green91]

Your "examples" only further my point. Lolol.

Ok you're going to have to justify this. All 3 of the videos I posted are highly original / non-mainstream music. Joe & Joe especially are MASTERS of their trade, and theres not a soul on earth who can question their talent and musical ability. They are truly world class. I'd be curious what musicians from the 80s you feel can top their musical talent. (and yes i know that Satriani was PLAYING in the 80s)

Not knocking on LP, i do like some of their music a great deal. But I dont see how you can give them a pass compared to Satch.

[quickdodge®]

Ok you're going to have to justify this.

I can't.

Just like your explanation above about "Joe and Joe" being "MASTERS of their trade" can't be justified.

[Sinfix_15]

Ok you're going to have to justify this. All 3 of the videos I posted are highly original / non-mainstream music. Joe & Joe especially are MASTERS of their trade, and theres not a soul on earth who can question their talent and musical ability. They are truly world class. I'd be curious what musicians from the 80s you feel can top their musical talent. (and yes i know that Satriani was PLAYING in the 80s)

Not knocking on LP, i do like some of their music a great deal. But I dont see how you can give them a pass compared to Satch.

I think what we're lacking here is perimeters and guidelines for what would be considered genius in music. It cant simply be "what i like and dislike". I like some songs that are very simple and lacking any substance at all, usually those 5 word songs with a looping beat are the ones the radio loves to play. Some songs you have to listen to a few times to understand and you like them more the more you listen to them.

Things like substance, degree of difficulty, range, was it trend setting or before its time?, longevity, ability to evolve ect.....

with that said..... i thought everything you posted was quality.




QD, how about this?