what they both did was wrong and both did deserve to be punished by law, but vick got bent over BAD. Funny how every animal activist group you could think of was asking for vicks head, but on the other hand you barely heard a peep out of groups that stand up for women who fall victim to sexual abuse. I do hope that both men are truly sorry about their past and continue to move in the right direction. Vick appears to be on the right track, and I hope Big Ben is on track as well.