Originally Posted by Tracy
Sorry but his ignorance just pisses me off greatly. Felt the need to throw it in there. Not sorry that I did neither.
Sorry but his ignorance just pisses me off greatly. Felt the need to throw it in there. Not sorry that I did neither.
No one asked you to be sorry. Ignorance pisses me off everyday. I'm just telling you that decent debates get ruined by name calling. He is entitled to his opinion just as well as you are. How can I get your point (which might be a great one) if I can't get past the fact that you have to use name calling to make it? All I'm saying is you are diluting your message by name calling. Of course, just my thoughts on it.
Exactly. I may not like the dude's choices in life, but he is still entitled to talk hi feelings. Later, QD.
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I just don't get why everyone is so self righteous. Of course everyone feels strongly about their own opinions. Duh. I often use analogies of my experience to weigh an argument. Then I try as hard as I can to see all sides and even try to put myself in others shoes. I have been known to change my mind based on a good logical argument. I realize that sometimes another person may have some insight to add that I can learn from. Maybe it has to do with being old. IonoBUT I can't see your point if you make yourself look dumb by resorting to name calling. To me it just shows YOUR ignorance (not yours as in QD) on how to have an intelligent discussion and makes me think I shouldn't even listen to you.
Either way, since the whole Vick thing has happened I have thought a lot about it. I can go with "he was raised not thinking it was wrong". I think he should be able to have a job. I do not, however, think he would have ever stopped if he didn't get caught and I think he should have known it was wrong in our society. Then again, what's done is done. Only the future will tell what he does now that he has paid his dues.
There is self righteous feelings and then there is just wrong. "Street racing" falls in the latter.
But that's for a whole different subject matter. Later, QD.
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I read ya. LOL. I know your stance. We been playing this game a long time together. Street racing is for another thread.
I could go on to say that dog fighting is just wrongbut I won't, even though I just did
I understand what you're saying. And it does make sense. I shouldn't have call him any names but I guess I wasn't thinking at the time. Its just, give the guy a break. I mean I know he did wrong but does he really have to suffer from it all his life? I mean thats one of the problems that people have. Learn to forgive and forget. I'm pretty sure he's sorry he did it.
I really couldn't care less about what he did to get put in jail. What pisses me off is the way he treated the Falcons organization and their fans. Lazy, last to show up for practice and first to leave. Irresponsible enough to get locked up for something as dumb as dog fighting when you were basically given the franchise by Arthur Blank. He let down his teammates, coaches, and fans for something so trivial. It truly was a waste. Hopefully, he's learned from all of that. I think the Falcons have, and we're much better off without him.
what do you mean how vick treated the fans? I met him before, and he was pretty cool and respectful towards me. LOL at the lazy comment, how do you know he was the first to leave and last to show? were you following him everyday?
It was reported in the news and IIRC I think there was a comment from the team owner on it.
He has also been known to flick off the fans and I believe he was fined for it.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/10419514/detail.html
He may be referring to when Vick fired off the middle fingers to fans a few times after games....at home.
That's widely been reported throughout his time with the Falcons. Teammates and all said that about him. Later, QD.
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He obviously didn't care about the fans, or the franchise, if he put himself in a situation where he could end up in a federal penitentiary(the 07 season wasn't very fun for fans). Apparently getting your rocks off fighting dogs is more important than your job. Not to mention the one finger salute...
How do I know? Because I watched the 60 minutes interview, where...wait for it...HE SAID IT HIMSELF! LOL @ you!
Totally forgot about that. Yea he did. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5245553n
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