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08-18-2009, 12:14 PM
1000cckiller

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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

So Vick has these receivers and they do nothing but drop passes, then just as soon as he leaves they are all the sudden far more developed than when Vick was there. As I said, Vick apologists are simply re-writing history to match what they want to see.

Yes, Ryan had a few games with several dropped passes, yet still managed 61% completions. 8 points higher than Vick did for his career.

Yes Vick was out with a broken leg in the 5-11 season. I forgot to remove that season. Funny that I should do that considering I was at the game he broke his leg.

Why should I quit hating on him? I actually have facts and stats to show why I think of him as a bad QB. You are simply slobbering on his nuts.

Why should I not say Harrington is a better passer? All of his stats say he is.

I will repeat again. Vick has a strong arm, and thats the extent of his NFL QB talents. Everything else is simply athletic ability and he is approaching 30, which is getting old for an NFL player.

The only developed reciever is Rody White. The rest still bite, falcons will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. Don't ever throw falcons stats up, because they make the playoffs one year, and then don't for the next three.
08-18-2009, 06:20 PM
BanginJimmy

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Originally Posted by 1000cckiller

The only developed reciever is Rody White. The rest still bite, falcons will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. Don't ever throw falcons stats up, because they make the playoffs one year, and then don't for the next three.

Vick was never able to do it either, so that makes him just as bad as any other falcons QB. I will go a step further and say White is the only returning receiver that is really NFL quality. I really wish the Falcons would sign Marvin Harrison to a 2 ear contract. He would be an excellent mentor for White and take that #1 WR pressure off of him.

BTW, I do think the Falcons goto the playoffs this year. They have a very ahrd schedule, especially compared to last year, but if they can stay healthy they should win the South with around a 9-7 record. I think they go 4-4 through the first half of the season then finish 5-3.
08-18-2009, 06:43 PM
Spectic Tank

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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

I really wish the Falcons would sign Marvin Harrison to a 2 ear contract. He would be an excellent mentor for White and take that #1 WR pressure off of him.

Tony G will take the pressure off...

Michael Jenkin's and Marvin Harrison's stats were very similar last year, I don't see how that would make any sense. Especially when they just recently signed Ferguson and Booker.
08-18-2009, 08:49 PM
BanginJimmy

Jenkins and Harrison's numbers were the same last year, but look to previous years. Harrison has lost a step but he is still better than any receiver on Atlanta's roster right now.

I also agree that Gonzales will take some pressure off White, but I think his real purpose will be to take pressure off of Ryan. To give him that safety valve receiver.
08-18-2009, 10:56 PM
Spectic Tank

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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

Harrison has lost a step but he is still better than any receiver on Atlanta's roster right now.

:lmfao:
08-19-2009, 06:23 AM
BanginJimmy

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Originally Posted by Spectic Tank

:lmfao:

Are you actually going to try to tell me that you think Roddy White is a better receiver than Marvin Harrison? There isn't a comparison between the 2. Even down a step harrison is far superior.
08-19-2009, 09:37 AM
Spectic Tank

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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

Are you actually going to try to tell me that you think Roddy White is a better receiver than Marvin Harrison? There isn't a comparison between the 2. Even down a step harrison is far superior.

You got any stats to back that up? or are we just making ridiculous statements? I believe you meant to say that he 'used' to be better than any receiver on our team. Now, that he's lost a step, he is comparable to our #2 WR.
08-19-2009, 10:14 AM
FlipKing

Agreed. If Harrison could still put up 1400 yards and around 10 tds I think someone wouldv'e signed him by now. Harrison hasnt been more than a number 2 guy in around... 4 years or so. The colts have been reggie waynes for a while.
08-19-2009, 08:05 PM
BanginJimmy

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Originally Posted by FlipKing

Agreed. If Harrison could still put up 1400 yards and around 10 tds I think someone wouldv'e signed him by now. Harrison hasnt been more than a number 2 guy in around... 4 years or so. The colts have been reggie waynes for a while.

Harrison has been hurt more lately but his production is still there. It is VERY hard to compare stats on players from different teams though. In Indy you had Wayne, Gonzales, and Clark that were also catching a lot of balls. In Atlanta you had no one else of any consequence.
08-19-2009, 10:18 PM
Spectic Tank

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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

Harrison has been hurt more lately but his production is still there. It is VERY hard to compare stats on players from different teams though. In Indy you had Wayne, Gonzales, and Clark that were also catching a lot of balls. In Atlanta you had no one else of any consequence.

Injuries happen often...when you're old.

It obviously wasn't very hard for you to conclude that Marvin Harrison is better than all of the Falcons receivers.

And I could say that Harrison plays in a Pass-Heavy offense with one of the best QB's in the game. Roddy White spends most of his time blocking, and helping the Falcons with the 2nd best run offense in the NFL last year. We could argue back and forth, OR we could just look at the stats and see which player is better. In the end it all comes down to what you do on Sunday...or Monday.
08-20-2009, 11:37 AM
VIP Style

exactly, Bangin likes to throw up all these stats, but just because your stats look good, doesnt necessarily translate to automatic wins every sunday or monday. bangin you say that the same receiving core vick had all of a sudden had 1,000 yard seasons as soon as he left. well jenkins has not even come close, finneran has not even had a 1000 yard season, but he came close when vick was playing. alge crumpler came close as well when vick was the QB. crumpler had 877 in 05, and 780 in 06. when vick went down, crumpler only recorded 477 in 07! roddy white was pretty much the only receiver that started doing pretty well. so dude, just quit playa hating. vick is back, rather you like it or not, and most likely our falcons will not win more than the eagles this year. lol and another thing, herringtons stats say he is a better QB right? obviously stats dont mean as much as you wish they did because if so, herrington would not be riding the bench, but he would be starting for the atlanta falcons.

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Originally Posted by Spectic Tank

Injuries happen often...when you're old.

It obviously wasn't very hard for you to conclude that Marvin Harrison is better than all of the Falcons receivers.

And I could say that Harrison plays in a Pass-Heavy offense with one of the best QB's in the game. Roddy White spends most of his time blocking, and helping the Falcons with the 2nd best run offense in the NFL last year. We could argue back and forth, OR we could just look at the stats and see which player is better. In the end it all comes down to what you do on Sunday...or Monday.

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