Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15694/dan-henderson-gets-next-title-shot-nate-marquardt-vs-demian-maia-winner-in-the-mix.mma
try and keep up lol
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15694/dan-henderson-gets-next-title-shot-nate-marquardt-vs-demian-maia-winner-in-the-mix.mma
try and keep up lol
im aware of this.... The point is that one of those options should REPLACE Griffin. Not come after it.
Why? Belfort, Maia, and Marquardt(already did) would all get their asses handed to. I mean Silva has already faced people exactly like them already and you know what happened. Silva only has like 4 more fights left in his contract, why not make it someone special.
Griffin is only special to the newcomers... he's a high profile name because of his celebrity status, not because of his amazing talents.
Yes, Silva already beat Hendo and Nate... but both of those are more legitimate wins that Griffin... even the 2nd time around. Theyre also both on hot streaks. Griffin is on his way down the ladder. Vitor for whatever reason is the popularity choice. Appearantly KOing Matt Linland still means somethingEither way, Vitor looks better on a resume.
They are doing this for the fans man. The UFC and Dana are promoting Silva as the best pound for pound fighter in the world, after a fight like Cote and Leites, the fans deserve a fight like Silva-Griffin. I know Henderson deserves another shot a Silva, which he is getting soon in early 2010, but shit, let Forrest do his thing man.Griffin is only special to the newcomers... he's a high profile name because of his celebrity status, not because of his amazing talents.
Yes, Silva already beat Hendo and Nate... but both of those are more legitimate wins that Griffin... even the 2nd time around. Theyre also both on hot streaks. Griffin is on his way down the ladder. Vitor for whatever reason is the popularity choice. Appearantly KOing Matt Linland still means something
I shouldnt care about this fight because i should have zero doubt in Silva. But the odds are stacked against him vs a fighter that doesnt deserve to fight him. Griffin beating Silva would be such a trajedy. If Griffin goes for broke like he's expected to do, i will have respect for him. But i really feel like Forrest is coming in with the mindset of stealing this win. It's a 3 round fight. He's the bigger stronger guy. I'd really hate to see him steal a UD. What happens then? You have a champion that lost his last fight... If Silva wins.. which he should.. its a good win, but it doesnt really do anything fantastic for the legacy of Silva.
WRONG!! Silva has NEVER faced anyone with the BJJ skills of Demien Maia. Period. Nogiera will even admit that. That will be Silva's toughest fight. There has not been anyone in MMA with Maia's skill level since Hoyce Gracie. He should be next in line in my opinion. Marquardt stands no chance against Maia.
On the topic, I hope Ken Flo demolishes Penn, and I also hope Griffin takes out Silva. Simply because I am not a Penn or Silva fan.
LOL @ Royce Gracie being an elite BJJ guy. His MMA BJJ is not very good at all and he was only good because the guys he fought didn't train ANY BJJ, and because Royce was able to use the GI. He never won the CBJJ Worlds, or the Pan Am's. In fact, his best accomplishment would be getting choked out by Walid Ismael.WRONG!! Silva has NEVER faced anyone with the BJJ skills of Demien Maia. Period. Nogiera will even admit that. That will be Silva's toughest fight. There has not been anyone in MMA with Maia's skill level since Hoyce Gracie. He should be next in line in my opinion. Marquardt stands no chance against Maia.
On the topic, I hope Ken Flo demolishes Penn, and I also hope Griffin takes out Silva. Simply because I am not a Penn or Silva fan.
Oh, and I hope you're joking about Marquardt standing no chance against Maia. He's by far the better wrestler, better striker, bigger, stronger and is no slouch on the ground. Nate got his BJJ black belt from my BJJ coach, Ricardo Murgel, and Murgel (8th degree BJJ black belt) is not only the highest ranking BJJ guy on the east coast, but he's also one of the highest ranking in the world (right below Rickson). Maia struggled with Jason MacDonald, and is very much a one trick pony. Yes his BJJ is elite, but can he take a punch? How will he deal with Nate's stand up? This isn't some "gimme" fight for Demian.
What he said.
also.... appearantly Demian Maia is the best BJJ since Royce Gracie... /chuckle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWcJxR7QOeY
In MMA, Maia's BJJ is top notch, but it's hard to say whose the best. Tapping Nate would be quite the feat though, as I know 100% the lineage of his black belt, since we both train under Ricardo Murgel.
True the Gi make it easy to gain a submisison because their no sweat. People forget that slivia beat jermey horn a world class bbj fighter and travis lutter. What do you think about Roberto Traven he train some of the best fighters in the world.
Marquardt vs Leites shows what a big wrestler can do vs even a superior BJJ guy. Leites... i hate him, but he's solid at BJJ. Not as good as Maia... but a fair comparison. Only a fool would say Marquardt has no chance.WRONG!! Silva has NEVER faced anyone with the BJJ skills of Demien Maia. Period. Nogiera will even admit that. That will be Silva's toughest fight. There has not been anyone in MMA with Maia's skill level since Hoyce Gracie. He should be next in line in my opinion. Marquardt stands no chance against Maia.
On the topic, I hope Ken Flo demolishes Penn, and I also hope Griffin takes out Silva. Simply because I am not a Penn or Silva fan.
Big wrestlers are the anti-BJJ... plenty of examples to demonstrate this.
Silva has faced Leites. Leites was one of the quickest in the world to earn a black belt. He earned it in like 3 years or something like that. He entered the BJJ World Cup Championship as a brown belt and won. Leites also has a really strong chin possibly better than Maia's. Leites and Maia's level of BJJ is a notch above Silva's but Silva's stand up is way better than both of theirs. Do you get where I am going with this?WRONG!! Silva has NEVER faced anyone with the BJJ skills of Demien Maia. Period. Nogiera will even admit that. That will be Silva's toughest fight. There has not been anyone in MMA with Maia's skill level since Hoyce Gracie. He should be next in line in my opinion. Marquardt stands no chance against Maia.
On the topic, I hope Ken Flo demolishes Penn, and I also hope Griffin takes out Silva. Simply because I am not a Penn or Silva fan.
The thing about the Silva-Leites fight was that Anderson respected Leites, because Leites respected Anderson. But Maia shows no respect to Anderson because he is on Wanderlei Silva's team. If you don't know what Anderson does to fighters that don't respect him...take a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crvpV...om=PL&index=14
He fucks with them, and beats them up. That's Lee Murray, the dude that knocked out Tito Ortiz with a one-two punch combo outside of a London club after Tito tried to hit him. All Lee Murray did was talk shit in the weigh ins, and ended up getting his ass beat in the fight, and Anderson even handed Murray his mouth piece after he was done. Have you seen the disrespectful videos Maia has put out about Anderson, Maia would get torn a new one.
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