WTF Roddy White?!

[Spectic Tank]

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-fa...ge_tab_newstab

White fined for no-show at Falcons camp


By D. ORLANDO LEDBETTER


The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

8:07 p.m. Friday, July 31, 2009 Falcons wide receiver Roddy White, the 27th pick of the 2005 draft, was a no-show for the first team meeting Friday evening.

White was scheduled to report by 6:30 p.m., but he was not there, according to his agent. Players not present for the first meeting are considered “holdouts.”

A player holding out will be fined $17,000 per day, as determined by the collective bargaining agreement.

The Falcons have been in discussions with White’s representative, Jonathan Feinsod, about a contract extension. He confirmed that White wasn’t at the meeting but said “no comment” when asked to elaborate.

White’s holdout puts a damper on the opening of training camp Saturday. White held out for six days during his rookie season after being drafted out of UAB.

White’s career got off to a bumpy start. He was known more for dropping passes than catching them before developing into an 1,000-yard receiver in his third season.

Last season, White caught 88 passes for 1,382 yards and seven touchdowns and was selected to the Pro Bowl for the first time. In 2007, he caught 83 passes for 1,202 yards and six touchdowns as the team went 4-12.

White’s play provided the spark and explosion for the passing game last season. Quarterback Matt Ryan made White the focal point of the passing attack, throwing 148 of his 434 passes (34 percent) in White’s direction.

White had 11 catches for 84 yards and a touchdown in the wild-card playoff loss to Arizona. However, he had some down moments in 2008. He dropped nine passes, including one in the end zone late in the game against Denver on Nov. 16 that could have led to a victory.

White is set to make $2.28 million in the final year of his five-year contract.

Arizona wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald averages $10 million per year as the league’s highest-paid receiver.

In his previous holdout, White missed the first six days of training camp. He signed a five-year contract worth $7.35 million (an escalator clause in the fifth year could take it over $10 million) with guaranteed bonuses totaling $4.470 million.

If anyone on the Falcons deserves more money it's definitely White, but it's still BS to hold out.

[atlxpat]

i agree, this isnt good for the team
but roddy does deserve it, i hope he gets back to the team no matter what it takes

[CALIWEST]

could have been handled differently, he knows they will give him the contract extension. but they were not discussing it a lot during the off season, as they should have. now they are just trying to pressure the falcons into giving him the extension now with more pay.

[FlipKing]

yeah, he wasnt real vocal abt it, I mean we knew he wanted more money, but not like this

[CALIWEST]

if he tries to get a deal like Fitzgerld, he is crazy. he is like $4-5 million max/year.

[Spectic Tank]

if he tries to get a deal like Fitzgerld, he is crazy. he is like $4-5 million max/year.

I think he's asking for more than that, but not Fitzgerald money.

I'm sure it will get done soon, it's costing White $17k every day he misses camp.

[BanginJimmy]

White wants 8mil a year plus incentives. PLain and simply, he isnt worth that much. Maybe we will see a deal that helps everyone. Trade White to AZ for Boldin and pay Boldin what he is worth, that 8mil a year plus incentives. AZ gets a solid #2 receiver and gets rid of Boldin. Atlanta gets the true #1 WR they need for the same money White is asking for.

[Spectic Tank]

White wants 8mil a year plus incentives. PLain and simply, he isnt worth that much. Maybe we will see a deal that helps everyone. Trade White to AZ for Boldin and pay Boldin what he is worth, that 8mil a year plus incentives. AZ gets a solid #2 receiver and gets rid of Boldin. Atlanta gets the true #1 WR they need for the same money White is asking for.

Pro bowl= #1 receiver and Matt Ryan's favorite target(at %30+ passes). I think the Falcons want to keep him.

He's still not in the top 5 in the league, and I agree he wants to much money.

[VIP Style]

first off roddy white is not even all that great to be tripping over more money. roddy is not nearly as consistent or explosive as lets say andre johnson or larry fitzgerald. he has one very productive season and now he starts bitchin. if roddy can prove to be even more productive this season seeing that our schedule is tougher, then pay the man more.

[VIP Style]

iagree, boldin > white all day. he is more explosive, more physical, he is better than white hands down.

White wants 8mil a year plus incentives. PLain and simply, he isnt worth that much. Maybe we will see a deal that helps everyone. Trade White to AZ for Boldin and pay Boldin what he is worth, that 8mil a year plus incentives. AZ gets a solid #2 receiver and gets rid of Boldin. Atlanta gets the true #1 WR they need for the same money White is asking for.

[atlxpat]

first off roddy white is not even all that great to be tripping over more money. roddy is not nearly as consistent or explosive as lets say andre johnson or larry fitzgerald. he has one very productive season and now he starts bitchin. if roddy can prove to be even more productive this season seeing that our schedule is tougher, then pay the man more.

true but hes still our best reciever and we wont go far without him, its pretty hard to compare anyone to andre johnson and fitzgerald.

[FlipKing]

and he has had 2 very productive seasons in a row

[BanginJimmy]

and he has had 2 very productive seasons in a row

2 productive seasons does not make you an 8mil a year player. Ryan threw to him so much because he is better than Jenkins, who is no better than an average #2 WR and would probably be better off in the slot.

Now look at Boldin, who wants the same money. There are MAYBE 2 or 3 teams in the NFL he is not the go to #1 WR, one of those being the one he is trying to leave. His explosiveness would really be on display playing in a dome also. Both teams are contenders this coming year, both are in the last year of their contract, so that gives both teams time to evaluate and make their own contract offers at the end of the year. It really is a win for both sides.

Side note:
If White was to go to AZ, I think he falls to #3, behind Fitzgerald and Breaston.

[FlipKing]

make white happy, pay him fairly and you get a marvin harrison like career imo. Ryan will keep throwing to him and he will keep putting up numbers.

[FlipKing]

and by that I mean 1k yard seasons Every year. averagin around 10 or so tds a year.

[atlxpat]

If White was to go to AZ, I think he falls to #3, behind Fitzgerald and Breaston.

excuse me? you're hating on roddy because hes only had 2 good seasons yet you put a guy (steve breaston) infront of him on a roster but breaston has only 2 years in the nfl and 1 year with some actual stats...
this is why you dont coach in the nfl, hell peewee football at that

[CALIWEST]

White isn't worth $8 mil a year, but he will not be traded to AZ. Boldin has 2 years left on his contract. Like i said Roddy is a $4-5 mil player imo. Maybe just a 2-3 year contract extension instead. Because you know how things go, when you sign a big extension, you later regret because you don't get more money later.

[ATL86]

White may be holding out for an extension, but his agent, (don't know who) is the puppet master. White wants to stay as much as Atlanta wants to keep him. He is our number 1 wideout and will make a name for himself for the Falcons with Matt Ryan under center.

In Arizona he would be the number 2 guy, possibly slot if Breaston beat him out, and that's not what any star receiver wants. See what happened to Roy Williams? White will get his extension and stay in Atlanta where he belongs.

[VIP Style]

roddy is known more for dropping than catching passes, he just not consistent enough or much of a significant deep threat to be complaining about more money after one season.

[CALIWEST]

He is a developing receiver in my opinion. he won't be the deep threat, but he isn't that bad on receiving catches. everyone drops passes. but he really needs to work on his route running. there are a lot of receivers who are big body and not fast, but when you can run routes so well, gives you an added bonus;

[VIP Style]

roddy to me lacks explosiveness. he is a good receiver, but not that good to be holding out of training camp.

[atlxpat]

roddy to me lacks explosiveness. he is a good receiver, but not that good to be holding out of training camp.

oh so if you're really good like andre johnson or fitzgerald then its okay to hold out? lol its never good to hold out.

[BanginJimmy]

excuse me? you're hating on roddy because hes only had 2 good seasons yet you put a guy (steve breaston) infront of him on a roster but breaston has only 2 years in the nfl and 1 year with some actual stats...
this is why you dont coach in the nfl, hell peewee football at that

Look who Breaston is behind on the roster, and you will see why is doesnt have the huge stats. I didnt mean that Breaston would immediately be the #2 WR either, I do think he would overtake White as the season progressed though. Breaston has far better hands than White, runs better routes, and blocks downfield better. All of which make him a better #2 option.

[FlipKing]

White has had 2 good PROVEN years. One with out a decent quarterback. He is one of the top 10 in the league.

[BanginJimmy]

White has had 2 good PROVEN years. One with out a decent quarterback. He is one of the top 10 in the league.

TO is also considered one of the best in the league if you go solely by stats, yet he has the most drops year in and year out.

[FlipKing]

He does have a drop problem, doesnt mean he isnt one of the best. Let him and Ryan continue to grow together. I think we need a number 2 receiver and put jenkins at 3. but we'll see

[atlxpat]

TO is also considered one of the best in the league if you go solely by stats, yet he has the most drops year in and year out.

wow you really live and die by this dropped passes stat,fitzgerald drops passes and so does andre johnson...no ones perfect

[BanginJimmy]

wow you really live and die by this dropped passes stat,fitzgerald drops passes and so does andre johnson...no ones perfect

A diving 1 handed try that tips off your fingers is not considered a drop, a pass that hits you squarely in the hands is a drop. A receivers job is to catch the football, and nothing else. If you lead the league in drops, it is the same as a QB being at the bottom of the league in completion percentage.

[atlxpat]

but roddy didnt lead the league in drops

[BanginJimmy]

I was speaking of TO there and the relevance of dropped passes.

Either way, White is 3 or 4 steps behind Boldin as a WR and if that deal could get done it immediately makes the Falcons 1 game better. That 1 game could easily be the difference between a wild card and a first round bye.

[Spectic Tank]

I was speaking of TO there and the relevance of dropped passes.

Either way, White is 3 or 4 steps behind Boldin as a WR and if that deal could get done it immediately makes the Falcons 1 game better. That 1 game could easily be the difference between a wild card and a first round bye.

Dude, this is not Madden. That trade is not going to happen. Why would the Cardinals trade a guy who is in camp, for a guy who is holding out and wants the same amount of money as Boldin(and according to you he's 3 or 4 steps behind)?

[Spectic Tank]

He does have a drop problem, doesnt mean he isnt one of the best. Let him and Ryan continue to grow together. I think we need a number 2 receiver and put jenkins at 3. but we'll see

Harry Douglas

[ATL86]

At least he's open enough to get passed to. He'll get better at catching once he gets his timing right with Ryan. 2009 should be interesting if they can both stay healthy.

[atlxpat]

Harry Douglas

im a big fan of him, i look forward to douglas being more involved with the offense this year

[CALIWEST]

all i gotta say is...atlanta will not be in playoffs this year, mainly due to how NFC South does every year. Bottom team comes to top, top team comes to bottom.

[VIP Style]

first off white was not a very developed receiver when vick was around, and vick is a very decent QB, crumpler was more of a target due to white not being nearly as good as he is now. white is NOT in the top ten just after ONE pro bowl season. i can name ten receivers that are better than white clearly.

White has had 2 good PROVEN years. One with out a decent quarterback. He is one of the top 10 in the league.

[Spectic Tank]

first off white was not a very developed receiver when vick was around, and vick is a very decent QB, crumpler was more of a target due to white not being nearly as good as he is now. white is NOT in the top ten just after ONE pro bowl season. i can name ten receivers that are better than white clearly.

I agree that White is a better receiver than he was when Ron Mexico was around. The only reason Crumpler was more of a target is because Ron couldn't read a defensive/coverage. Like you said he was very DECENT, but that's about it. And most of that was because of his legs.

Please list 10 receivers who are better, and use stats to back it up. He's probably 6th or 7th...

[VIP Style]

steve smith, andre johnson, larry fitz, randy moss, TO, anquan boldin, plaxico, mushin muhammad, stallworth, chad johnson. hmm that was easy. i dont understand why folks always try and knock vicks passer skills, his coach dan reeves even said vick was good at reading the field. its all about what offensive scheme your QB is workiñg with. people just get so caught up in the fact that he is a "athletic" qb, so they dont think he can pass. truth is if vick was such a bad qb, then he would have never been drafted as one.

[FlipKing]

Moss, Boldin, Fitz, Johnson, Smith, Wayne. Theres 6 better. Let me know if you can come up with more with out reaching.

[FlipKing]

chad johnson, Moose, T.O. and stallworth are a JOKE. We said better this right now. TO. older and slower. Moose, old and slow, stallworth indefintly suspended, Chad Johnson-too busy on twitter and had a bad season last year. Next?