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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    He has had 7 years as a pro and got consistently worse every season. He isnt a threat to throw the ball to beat you.
    You can actually blame that on the multiple coaching staff changes and different offensives he had to run. Honesltly any QB's stats would have suffered in those conditions.

    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    They can try to throw him in the wildcat, but that wont last long. GM's will realize that he isnt big enough to go inside so they will only concentrate on the outsides when he is in the game.
    I agree with you on this only because that's a college formation. That's like running GT's forumation in the pros. It may be affective the 1st year, but by the next year everyone has caught on to your scheme.

    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    No one is going to use him as a starter because he doesnt have the talent to play every down. How much of the quickness did he lose? How much of his limited knowledge of defenses did he forget?

    I have to disagree. The NFL is a bussiness and Vick brings in the $$$. Someone is going to take a chance on him. Also, rumor is Vick is still in great shape, so we will have to see about his speed.

    Also, I like have everyone downs him about this defense scheme reading abilities, but it's kinda hard to break down a defense when your offensive line is colapsing on you in a matter of seconds every play. So fault them as much (if not more) then I do Vick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    You can actually blame that on the multiple coaching staff changes and different offensives he had to run. Honesltly any QB's stats would have suffered in those conditions.
    OC's didnt cause him to have sub 55% completions for his career. They didnt cause him to have a fumble for every 2.6 TD passes or.78 rushing TD's for every fumble. Then you have 1.35 TD's for every INT, which shows he doesnt read defenses well. Vick is a turnover machine. Career td's 92, turnovers 79. A whopping 1.16 TD's per turnover.


    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    I have to disagree. The NFL is a bussiness and Vick brings in the $$$. Someone is going to take a chance on him. Also, rumor is Vick is still in great shape, so we will have to see about his speed.
    I know someone will pick him up. They will most likely offer him a 1 year contract for about 1 million plus incentives if he gets on the field. The problem is, its going to be a team like the Raiders or the Browns. I dont think the Pats or another established team will want him in their locker room. It simply wont be worth the media blasting them up and down.

    You cannot stay in football shape in prison. There is just so much more to being in proper shape than running a 40 and lifting weights. Vick has never been all that intelligent either so learning a new playbook will not be an easy task for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    Also, I like have everyone downs him about this defense scheme reading abilities, but it's kinda hard to break down a defense when your offensive line is collapsing on you in a matter of seconds every play. So fault them as much (if not more) then I do Vick.
    No, it isnt easy to do, but it still needs to be done. The problem is, a lot of people will never find fault with Vick. Everything he does wrong is someone else's fault. Its the O-lines fault he puts the ball on the ground, it's the environments fault he gets entertainment from torturing dogs, its the OC's fault he doesnt know where a safety is. When does it stop?

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