Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Dog fighting isnt natural though. Those dogs are trained to fight, and are tortured if they dont fight. That has nothing to do with animals being animals. It is a matter of human exploiting and torturing animals for the fun of it.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...ined_fami.html


Vick was involved in hanging and drowning under performing dogs. I found a few mentions of electrical shock being used, but none said that Vick was involved in that.

I'll give you the points you made on Vick's charges. That I can't dispute.
However, dogs and most all animals fight in the wild....so that being said, if dogs weren't domesticated, instinctually they would fight. Shit, even domesticated dogs still fight each other...