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    Wow.

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    NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- Michael Vick is in talks to become the new spokesman for PETA.

    Yes, you read that correctly. The disgraced one-time NFL superstar serving prison time for funding an illegal dog-fighting ring is primed to do public-service ads for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals upon his release later this month. According to three people with knowledge of the matter, the proposed endorsement is part of a comprehensive PR scheme aimed at rehabilitating the quarterback's image and gaining him readmission to the league that banned him from playing.

    "I'm familiar with [the plan]," said Dan Shannon, director of youth outreach and campaigns for PETA. "We have been in discussions with Michael Vick, with his management team, about the possibility of him putting out a public-service announcement with PETA when he's out of jail. We want him to discourage people from taking part in dog-fighting. I can do it until I'm blue in the face and it might not convince anybody. Michael Vick sure can. He can say, 'Look, I did it, I was wrong, and it ruined my career.'"

    Other image-changing moves
    That's not all Mr. Vick will do to try to rehabilitate his image. People with knowledge of his comeback plan said it will also include mea culpa TV interviews, PSAs and charitable donations to other animal-rights organizations (or perhaps the formation of his own foundation), along with the possibility of working with PETA.

    But this might be the mother of all PR jobs. Mr. Vick's obstacles are many: a hard-line NFL commissioner who wants to see "genuine remorse" before reinstating Mr. Vick to the league; individual franchises that might be wary of the backlash and potential damage to their brands from signing Mr. Vick; and an incredulous public that remains shocked by the story.

    And what a grisly tale it is. Mr. Vick, who in 2004 signed a seven-year, $130 million contract with the Atlanta Falcons, funded the Bad Newz Kennels in Virginia, which participated in the fighting of pit bulls and also admitted to participating in the sometimes torturous deaths of dogs that underperformed, including death by drowning, hanging and electrocution. Mr. Vick is due to be released from federal prison on May 20 and will serve the remaining two months of his 23-month sentence under home confinement near Hampton, Va., where he will be working a 40-hour-a-week construction job.

    Mr. Vick's camp includes a multitude of PR and legal handlers. His Atlanta-based attorney, Daniel Meachum, did not return several requests for an interview. Mr. Vick's Washington-based lawyer, William "Billy" Martin, declined to comment. It is not known if Mr. Vick's team has hired a strategic-communications or crisis-management firm to handle the PR efforts. But PETA confirmed it has talked with his handlers.

    Before doing a deal, however, PETA wants Mr. Vick to undergo a psychological evaluation for antisocial personality disorder. "We're suspicious this may come from a place of simply wanting to repair his public image, rather than genuine remorse," Mr. Shannon said. "He was dishonest all the way up the line until he finally had to admit to what he did, which is a hallmark of [antisocial personality disorder]. If he can't tell the difference between right and wrong, we can't get in bed with this guy. At this point, he hasn't chosen to submit to an evaluation. We hope the NFL will require that evaluation as a precondition of reinstatement. The bottom line is: Everybody knows he's going to apologize, go on Oprah and Larry King and say he did wrong, that he learned his lesson. But there's no reason for anybody to take his word for that based on the pattern of dishonesty and the severity of cruelty he took part in."

    PETA's PR issues
    Though PETA certainly has its own PR issues because of its extremist positions -- the group is known for shocking advertising and stunts; it has been known to throw animal blood on people who wear fur and once sent a letter to the small town of Fishkill, N.Y., asking the community to change its name -- the organization nonetheless could give Mr. Vick's efforts a sense of legitimacy, experts said.

    "It's a smart thing. He should be doing some work with PETA or other animal-rights organizations," said Richard Levick, president of the Washington public-relations consultancy Levick Strategic Communications. "What the American public looks for is recognition of error, contrition and fixing the problem. There was plenty of opportunity for Michael Vick early on to have admitted his errors without admitting his legal liability, to reach out to his sponsors, animal-rights communities, the football communities, but he didn't. So now he has to. Americans are willing to forgive egregious acts but not arrogance."

    Despite the sometimes skeptical public reaction to such PR tours, those who shape public image said it has to be done. "Even if it is 'staged,' rehabilitation has to start somewhere, as long as it's sincere and consistent," said Drew Kerr, president and lead public-relations counsel for Four Corners Communications, a PR firm based in New York. "The public has a long history of forgiving people and creating comeback stories under the right circumstances."

    Both Messrs. Levick and Kerr cited examples such as Texas Rangers outfielder Josh Hamilton, who overcame a four-year drug addiction to finally reach the major leagues and make the All-Star team last year, and Michael Milken, the one-time "junk bond king" who was charged with 98 counts of racketeering and securities fraud in 1989. He pleaded guilty to six securities charges and served less than two years in prison but today is a well-known and well-respected philanthropist whom Fortune magazine dubbed "The Man Who Changed Medicine" in 2004.

    "There's a strange identification process that goes on, so if the sincerity is there, even if it's under the master hand of a PR pro, it can go a long way," Mr. Kerr said.

    Up to the commissioner
    Whether Mr. Vick can convince NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is another story. The league has taken no position on Mr. Vick's status since he was suspended indefinitely in 2007. The Associated Press reported last month that at a panel discussion at Washington & Lee University, Mr. Goodell said he will meet with Mr. Vick after his legal issues have been addressed.

    "At that point in time, I will want to meet with Michael, I will want to meet with his people, I will want to meet with other professionals to understand: Does he understand the mistakes he made and is he genuine and have remorse for those actions, and is he prepared to handle himself differently going forward? That will ultimately be my decision," Mr. Goodell told the AP. "Our issue is trying to do the right thing and represent the NFL in the best possible way. Michael did an egregious thing. He has paid a very significant price for that."

    But he also indicated he would be open to the idea of letting Mr. Vick return. "If [Mr. Vick has] learned from that and is prepared to live a different life, I think the general public is forgiving on that when people are genuine and they show remorse and are prepared to live a different life. ... That's something he has to prove to myself and the general public."

    If Mr. Vick is suspended for the 2009 season, his options include the Canadian Football League and the upstart United Football League. But even if Mr. Goodell reinstates Mr. Vick for the 2009 NFL season -- and at age 29 he does have several productive years left if he stayed in shape while in prison -- it remains to be seen which team would take a chance on the quarterback. "There is a risk, yes, but professional sports has shown over and over that they are willing to take that chance even on the biggest risks, and they don't seem to wait long, either," Mr. Kerr said.

    Mr. Levick agreed, saying, "The Falcons said they weren't taking him back, but he only has to change the perception of one of 29 other [franchise owners]. Sports are filled with people who have been given second and third chances."

    Even PETA seems willing to give him another shot. "PETA does believe in second chances," Mr. Shannon said. "Just because somebody did something bad, it doesn't mean they're an unsalvageable person. We hope that's the case with Michael Vick."
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    A player is an ASSET, not a person. If NFL rejects a player, its only to maintain their image - not some lame excuse like morality.

    This cant surprise anyone - its all about money, and image = money.

    Vick is along for the ride - good luck to him. (bitch ass)

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    Damn...

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    I don't care about all of that. I just think it's crazy about the PETA thing. I don't think it's a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy
    I don't care about all of that. I just think it's crazy about the PETA thing. I don't think it's a good idea.
    x2 plus it would look stupid if peta lets him i already question peta,if they let him then ill know they are dumb they named andre 3000 as one of the best looking vegans or something like that but yet he whears fur so i dont know

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    I don't think PETA is a good idea



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    ^^ Probably not!

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    This is all about PR for Vick. He doesnt believe in anything that PETA does. Anyone with half a brain should be able to see though anything Vick is trying to do and know it is all BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    This is all about PR for Vick. He doesnt believe in anything that PETA does. Anyone with half a brain should be able to see though anything Vick is trying to do and know it is all BS.
    That's my view and why I don't think it's a good idea.
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    this is why vick will have a hard time trying to prove that he is sincerely sorry about what he has done. people just ready to knock him down every chance they get when he is trying to do right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy
    That's my view and why I don't think it's a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP Style
    this is why vick will have a hard time trying to prove that he is sincerely sorry about what he has done. people just ready to knock him down every chance they get when he is trying to do right.

    That is because the only thing Vick is sorry about is getting caught. That is obvious in the lies he told to the media and Goddell right before he plead out.

    I dont know why you are so driven to defend this piece of shit. He didnt make a mistake and it wasnt an accident. It was a deliberate act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    That is because the only thing Vick is sorry about is getting caught. That is obvious in the lies he told to the media and Goddell right before he plead out.

    I dont know why you are so driven to defend this piece of shit. He didnt make a mistake and it wasnt an accident. It was a deliberate act.
    Ditto. I will never forgive him. He's not sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP Style
    this is why vick will have a hard time trying to prove that he is sincerely sorry about what he has done. people just ready to knock him down every chance they get when he is trying to do right.
    x2. Maybe he is sorry for what he did. Maybe not, but at the end he will still play ball.

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    He's not sorry. That's that.

    Being sorry is a different discussion from whether or not he will play ball.
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    lol and how do you know he is not sorry? exactly, none of us truly know whats going on inside anyones head. i dont know why so many are hell bent on never seeing him get himself right, thats what its all about. its rediculous to try and keep someone held down because of a crime that nobody really gives a shit about until now. hell naw it wasnt right what he did, but you cant condemn him forever unless you just hatin or something.
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    He's not sorry. That's that.

    Being sorry is a different discussion from whether or not he will play ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    lol and how do you know he is not sorry? exactly, none of us truly know whats going on inside anyones head. i dont know why so many are hell bent on never seeing him get himself right, thats what its all about. its rediculous to try and keep someone held down because of a crime that nobody really gives a shit about until now. hell naw it wasnt right what he did, but you cant condemn him forever unless you just hatin or something.
    Its actually pretty simple,. if he was sorry about it he would have manned up after he got caught and just plead out. He wouldnt have lied to the press and more importantly Goddell immediately before pleading out. And finally, he wouldnt be doing shit with PETA if he was sorry about it.

    I dont know what is with all of the Vick apologists. The so called man is a piece of shit and he has proven himself to be a piece of shit on MANY occasions. Flipping off the fans in the Dome after he blew a game immediately comes to mind. I dont care that you call me a hater, its true, I do hate the self important punk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    Its actually pretty simple,. if he was sorry about it he would have manned up after he got caught and just plead out. He wouldnt have lied to the press and more importantly Goddell immediately before pleading out. And finally, he wouldnt be doing shit with PETA if he was sorry about it.

    I dont know what is with all of the Vick apologists. The so called man is a piece of shit and he has proven himself to be a piece of shit on MANY occasions. Flipping off the fans in the Dome after he blew a game immediately comes to mind. I dont care that you call me a hater, its true, I do hate the self important punk.
    +reps.

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    Lulz...

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    Oh yea. I'm hatin'. I'm hatin' on a heartless POS. Anyone who could do that is a POS and that's my opinion and I am absolutely entitled to it. You think he's sorry? Awesome. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I don't really feel like getting into what I really want to write right now because I have homework to do, but trust...I will be back to get it all out. Until then, I'm a hater
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    He thinks its a good moral decision to join an organization that burns down Hummer dealers because apparently Hummers kill the whales?

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    *sits back and waits!!!* lol

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    I don't care if he isn't sorry, but he did pay for his crimes. So he should be allowed to move on with his life and career without having to do anything else special
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    I don't care if he isn't sorry, but he did pay for his crimes. So he should be allowed to move on with his life and career without having to do anything else special

    His life, yes, I am all for that. His career is up to 1 person, Roger Goddell. If Goddell thinks that having Vick in an NFL uniform is bad for the game then he will ban him permanently.

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    I hope he does all this shit and then gets denied.


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    I wish people would allow this man to get on with his life.
    Danny Heatly(sp) was able to and he killed a human being.
    Give me a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
    I wish people would allow this man to get on with his life.
    Danny Heatly(sp) was able to and he killed a human being.
    Give me a break.
    He should be able to get on with his life in the sense of working a real job and paying his debts etc. I just dont think its right for him to work with PETA and act like a good person. Its like someone going to church on sunday and then going out and running wild during the week. Hypocrite in my eyes! I think it should just all be dropped and him prove to his own self that he is not that kind of person to continue to be involved in such activities. I give him mad props if he has changed and never gets involved in such again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
    I wish people would allow this man to get on with his life.
    Danny Heatly(sp) was able to and he killed a human being.
    Give me a break.
    No one would be on his case if he didn't kill animals for his sick enjoyment. As far as i'm concerned, he deserves worse.

    Just cause a guy is good at football, doesn't mean he is above the law and above animal rights.

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    tell me about it, jeez. he did his time, lost alot, so let him get back to business instead of trying to hold him down forever.
    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
    I wish people would allow this man to get on with his life.
    Danny Heatly(sp) was able to and he killed a human being.
    Give me a break.

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    I'm not blocking him from getting on with his life. I am just commenting on what he has done to helpless animals. I'd do the same if I found out someone on IA was involved in the same activities. Get used to it. Everyone has an opinion and is allowed to express it.

    I also think Jeffrey Dahmer is a POS for what he did to those men, but this thread isn't about who killed people. It's about Mike Vick becoming a rep for PETA and I don't agree with it nor do I believe he is sorry. Don't like my opinion, post your own or click the x.
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    My sentiments exactly.

    You think this is cute?



    How about this?



    or this?



    There is no way you could stand there and watch this happen to an animal and then claim to be sorry after a few months in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy
    There is no way you could stand there and watch this happen to an animal and then claim to be sorry after a few months in jail.
    There is no way you can watch that done to an animal and call yourself anything but a sociopath, or worse.

    Then to add to it, he had a couple of friends over for a night of torturing dogs if they didnt perform as well as he thought they should. That is the true mark of someone incapable of feeling sorry. I wont lose a minute of sleep if I hear of Vick having the same things done to him as he did to those dogs.

    And yes, I put a dogs life over Vick's. The dogs have shown more humanity than he has. Vick has earned the right to be a third class citizen of this world. Right there with the German Gestapo and Waffen SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    There is no way you can watch that done to an animal and call yourself anything but a sociopath, or worse.

    Then to add to it, he had a couple of friends over for a night of torturing dogs if they didnt perform as well as he thought they should. That is the true mark of someone incapable of feeling sorry. I wont lose a minute of sleep if I hear of Vick having the same things done to him as he did to those dogs.

    And yes, I put a dogs life over Vick's. The dogs have shown more humanity than he has. Vick has earned the right to be a third class citizen of this world. Right there with the German Gestapo and Waffen SS.
    QFT.

    Reps to you for having common sense and civility.

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    hmm how much common sense and civility does that truly show putting a dogs life over a humans, gtfo lol your kidding right?
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    QFT.

    Reps to you for having common sense and civility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    hmm how much common sense and civility does that truly show putting a dogs life over a humans, gtfo lol your kidding right?

    Believe me when I say, you're beating a dead horse....* Oh noes, please don't charge me*
    Financing and having a place where the fighting occured is the same as torturing and willfully killing AN ANIMAL I guess....Lulz...common sense...

    and Tracy, I never said you were not allowed to have an opinion or express said opinion....but by the same token, I am allowed to express my varying opinion on something that I deem to be utterly retarded...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    hmm how much common sense and civility does that truly show putting a dogs life over a humans, gtfo lol your kidding right?
    No I'm not kidding in the least bit.

    It's a proven fact that a person who enjoys seeing animals suffer is clinically disturbed and is likely to do the same to other people.

    Again, fanboys can say all they want but at the end of the day, he committed a crime and tortured animals. By my definition, yes, if i had the choice, I'd take a dog's life over his.

    Why do you post everything in black?

    What point are you trying to make with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshonda2004
    hmm how much common sense and civility does that truly show putting a dogs life over a humans, gtfo lol your kidding right?

    Show me a single mention of putting a dogs life over a human's in general? I have said on several occasions that I do put a dog's life over Vick's, but that is because of a choice Vick made. It is not a general statement. I have no problems killing a dog as humanely as possible. I shot one on the side of the road a few months ago. It had been hit by a car and was obviously in pain. I shot it in the head and felt good about it.


    Onto the idiot's guide to defending Vick question.

    Yes, I do eat meat. The animals are typically stunned unconscious by a captive bot gun, like the one used by the killer in No Country For Old Men. This keeps the heart beating, but makes the killing painless for the animal. Jewish and Islamic slaughter houses kill their animals in a different fashion. They slit the animals throat without stunning it.

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    Psychologist will tell you that anyone who tortures animals is a sociopath (or whatever) and on his way to harming humans. It's like a stepping stone. Do some research on serial killers and most of them started by torturing animals for practice.
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    You bleeding heart animal lovers should be protesting the killings of innocent and defenseless cows and chickens...but wait...you won't...
    Why's that? One word: hypocrisy.

    Why aren't you out at pounds and kennels that can't hold but a certain amount of dogs and cats that don't have homes and have not been adopted so consequently are put to sleep, protesting those atrocities?
    One word: hypocrisy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
    You bleeding heart animal lovers should be protesting the killings of innocent and defenseless cows and chickens...but wait...you won't...
    Why's that? One word: hypocrisy.

    Why aren't you out at pounds and kennels that can't hold but a certain amount of dogs and cats that don't have homes and have not been adopted so consequently are put to sleep, protesting those atrocities?
    One word: hypocrisy....
    Hypocrisy would mean that I actually torture animals then argue that Vick shouldn't. Your example is not and example of hypocrisy.

    I actually volunteer at animal shelters. I don't agree that they put them to sleep. You are trying to add all of these points in here based on nothing. This thread isn't about all of the things we think are wrong when it comes to animals. To stay on topic, I am not arguing each and every animal treatment issue. I made this thread to discuss Vick and PETA. You want to discuss animal shelters? Make another thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy
    Hypocricy would mean that I actually torture animals then argue that Vick shouldn't. Your example is not and example of hypocrisy.

    I actually volunteer at animal shelters. I don't agree that they put them to sleep. You are trying to add all of these points in here based on nothing. This thread isn't about all of the things we think are wrong when it comes to animals. To stay on topic, I am not arguing each and every animal treatment issue. I made this thread to discuss Vick and PETA. You want to discuss animal shelters? Make another thread

    So because you don't kill the animals that you consume, that makes the "offense" ok? I'm sure you keep tabs on how humanely every one of your meals containing animal or animal bypriducts left life on this earth before being broken down by your stomach acids, correct?

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