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    First pick was settled last night. Stafford to the Lions for 42.7M in guaranteed money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    First pick was settled last night. Stafford to the Lions for 42.7M in guaranteed money.
    Stafford to Calvin...intriguing

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    Damn Aaron Curry goes number 4 to Seattle, experts had him as the best player in the whole draft. I wonder how far Sanchez might fall...

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    Whoa Jets move up and take Mark Sanchez!

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    Quote Originally Posted by americanctm
    Damn Aaron Curry goes number 4 to Seattle, experts had him as the best player in the whole draft.

    That was more about needs than ability. 1 and 2 had more pressing needs and KC at #3 just made a bad pick.


    VERY surprised with the Bengals. I thought they should have gone with Monroe instead. He has better feet than Smith and is a better pass blocker. Smith is a better run blocker, but the Bengals dont have a real RB yet so their running game is just to keep defenses honest.

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    The Raiders really need to stop getting a hard on over straight line speed and look at the whole picture. Heyward-Bey over Crabtree or even Maclin? Wow is all I can say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sögoodM3
    The Raiders really need to stop getting a hard on over straight line speed and look at the whole picture. Heyward-Bey over Crabtree or even Maclin? Wow is all I can say.
    I was pretty sure Harvin wasnt going to be a first rounder and would be the 4th or possibly 5th WR taken, but that was definitely a surprise. The Raiders will not be a winning franchise as long as Al Davis is calling the shots. He is scaring away the top coaching talent and the better players. I do think Hayward Bey is going to be a solid receiver though. Now they just need to be able to get the ball to him which is still up in the air because their O line sucks.

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    Harvin will be a first rounder. but heyward bey of crabtree is crazy. I don't think maclin is going to be a great pro.


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    Heyward-Bey's receiving stats in college were nothing to write home about at all. I highly doubt that someone that can hardly produce in college will do much of anything in the NFL besides utilize his speed in the return game.

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    Percy Harvin first round no.22 pick to the vikings


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    Not surprised to see him go in the first round, but I am surprised to see the Vikings be the one to take him. Hope he does well for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sögoodM3
    Heyward-Bey's receiving stats in college were nothing to write home about at all. I highly doubt that someone that can hardly produce in college will do much of anything in the NFL besides utilize his speed in the return game.
    The Raiders picks usually always suck... i mean in 2000 they took a kicker with the 17th overall pick! lmao

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    and somebody is going to get an absolute steal at Middle Line Backer in the 2nd round by picking up either Rey Maualuga or James Laurinaitis

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    Quote Originally Posted by americanctm
    The Raiders picks usually always suck... i mean in 2000 they took a kicker with the 17th overall pick! lmao
    That was my point...

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    James lauranitis is not that good imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec
    James lauranitis is not that good imo.

    You havent watched much football then. He is an inside the box type of LB that really is a throwback to the 80's. Not very good in coverage, but he is a great tackler and has great instincts. The only real place for him to improve is in shedding blockers.

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    Yea thats true I don't watch alot of Big Ten football but from what I've seen he is slow and if your running a crossing route in his vicinity he is not going to make the tackle. He is a great stuff the run linebacker, but I like linebackers who can also drop back in coverage if need be and james def. can't do that.


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    Ya but he'll learn. Like Jimmy said he has great instincts and i'm surprised he got past the 1st round, along with Rey Maualuga as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by americanctm
    Ya but he'll learn. Like Jimmy said he has great instincts and i'm surprised he got past the 1st round, along with Rey Maualuga as well.

    Both of them had the exact same issues. Outstanding inside that tackle box and about 10 yards back, but they arent coverage type LBers. Both work great in a 4-3 defense but would struggle in a 3-4.

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    Hakeem Nicks holllllaaaa!!!!

    Jets with Sanchez and Bucs with Freeman both dumb as shit if you ask me.

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    Al davis is bat shit crazy!

    I think the Falcons made out pretty well. Got two possible starters at DT and S.

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    Falcons did have a good draft. No one did better than the Saints and Eagles though.

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    no way, harry douglas is not even all that great, he is pretty small and not nearly as big as massa.
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    Harry Douglas ring a bell? He's better than Massa-whateverthefuck-his name is...

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    i think the lions messed up by picking up stafford. they really dont need a rookie QB.

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    There were actually many teams that did very well. But ill have to agree with VIP style about stafford. Personally i think he will be a bust. I mean hes a good qb but I dont know just have my doubts. Falcons did pretty well this draft though

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP Style
    no way, harry douglas is not even all that great, he is pretty small and not nearly as big as massa.
    dude massa is not that good. massa=Mr. Big drop


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    but massa is more physical, has a better frame, you understand where im coming from. he will probably be a bigger threat than harry.
    Quote Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec
    dude massa is not that good. massa=Mr. Big drop

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    im telling you man, lions should have drafted a badass linebacker to anchor the defense, and a very good offensive tackle. culpepper is pretty good, im not sure if stafford should get thrown into that mess in detroit.
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    There were actually many teams that did very well. But ill have to agree with VIP style about stafford. Personally i think he will be a bust. I mean hes a good qb but I dont know just have my doubts. Falcons did pretty well this draft though

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGodfather
    Hakeem Nicks holllllaaaa!!!!

    Jets with Sanchez and Bucs with Freeman both dumb as shit if you ask me.
    Well considering Sanchez only played like 16 college football games, non of which in cold weather regularly like New York i think he went to high.

    But wait till next years Draft, it'll be packed with QBs.... Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Jevon Snead, Zac Robinson, Matt Grothe, Tood Reesing, Juice Williams....

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    Definitely agree with you VIP. Stafford im shure he is good but i dont think hes gonna pull a Matt ryan with the falcons. Detroit just really needs a whole overhaul. Thier defense was ok but yeah thier Offensive line was horrible or was it vice versa? i wasnt shure its been awhile since i have checked out one of thier games.

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    Oh man i never payed attention to college football but I totally forgot about Tim tebow next year. Truthfully in my opinion i think he would be a bust to. Only because he is more of a scrambler BUT i dont watch college football much so dont judge me on it. Its just to me Micheal Vick was the only scrambling QB that had success so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by americanctm
    Well considering Sanchez only played like 16 college football games, non of which in cold weather regularly like New York i think he went to high.
    Brett Farve played his ball at S.Mississippi. Anyone can learn to play their ball in the cold. The first year isnt going to be pretty though.

    But wait till next years Draft, it'll be packed with QBs.... Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Jevon Snead, Zac Robinson, Matt Grothe, Tood Reesing, Juice Williams....
    They will be drafted in this order barring any injuries or total meltdowns/breakouts:

    Bradford
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    Tebow
    Robinson
    Williams

    Maybe 1 or 2 not as well knowns thrown in there also. The pocket based passers will go first, then move down from there. From what I have been reading, there isnt any real NFL interest in Tebow as he is a college type QB that lacks the arm strength to play QB in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    Brett Farve played his ball at S.Mississippi. Anyone can learn to play their ball in the cold. The first year isnt going to be pretty though.



    They will be drafted in this order barring any injuries or total meltdowns/breakouts:

    Bradford
    McCoy
    Snead
    Grothe
    Tebow
    Robinson
    Williams

    Maybe 1 or 2 not as well knowns thrown in there also. The pocket based passers will go first, then move down from there. From what I have been reading, there isnt any real NFL interest in Tebow as he is a college type QB that lacks the arm strength to play QB in the NFL.



    Tebow=the loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP Style
    but massa is more physical, has a better frame, you understand where im coming from.
    One thing you forgot...Hands! They're more important than size...do you understand where I'm coming from?

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    but look at it this way, he gets a good WR coach to coach up those hands, and there you go, a beast is born. its not all about instant talent, you have to look at potential as well.
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    One thing you forgot...Hands! They're more important than size...do you understand where I'm coming from?

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    T.O has always dropped a ton of passes, and look what he produced. ( I hate T.O. but look at the numbers). Massaqoui will have a better career than douglas
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing
    T.O has always dropped a ton of passes, and look what he produced. ( I hate T.O. but look at the numbers). Massaqoui will have a better career than douglas
    Nope.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing
    T.O has always dropped a ton of passes, and look what he produced. ( I hate T.O. but look at the numbers). Massaqoui will have a better career than douglas
    Kid hasn't even sat on the bench in the NFL and you can already claim that?

    I think he's got skill, but people were saying that the Flacons should draft him...really?! Yea, HD is no Terrel Owens but he's a quality slot receiver and a return man. Why waste a pick on a guy with questionable hands? Other than the fact that he played at UGAy.

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    Lol, I've watched Mass play his entire career. I watched HD play last year. Just saying, from what I see Mass is better. But we did need to draft D and not O. Notice how high Mass was drafted. Apparently some pro teams saw the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing
    Lol, I've watched Mass play his entire career. I watched HD play last year. Just saying, from what I see Mass is better. But we did need to draft D and not O. Notice how high Mass was drafted. Apparently some pro teams saw the same thing.
    So you're comparing a college player with someone playing in the NFL? I'm sure massa looked pretty damn good then.

    Oh and we all know that where you get drafted determines your skill. Ryan Leaf was an amazing QB...no?

    Massa plays at wideout where HD plys the slot. HD is also a HUGE part of our special teams, and get a few carries out of the backfield as well. So maybe Massa is a better receiver, but Douglas is a better football player(and I'd take that anyday).

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