First of do any of ya fight my guess is not. Even if you check the ufc web site it say that the fight was tko due to a tko doc stoppage. Vaseline effect a fighter more then what you think. You get tired as shit trying to do submission if you cant grip them . Also vaseline is water proof so it remain slipperly. Pj step up to the challenger and fought and lost with pride. Every fighter talk shit it the sport some win some lose.