50 Cent Getting Ripped ?

[FrnkPwrs]

50 cent is the definition of commercial. I cant believe some people cant see that. You think someone listened to a 50 tape and was like "Oh, he's hot, let me sign him". He was brought on by eminem, who, as we all know bullshit aside, is a drama king. Contraversy sells records. Do you know how many rappers have been shot, stabbed, locked up, whatever, and that isnt all they talk about? Ever heard of MOP? Beanie Siegel? Peedi Crakk? I went to south Philly and seen people in Siegels Bentley pumping on the block. Do you see a media circus around them? Do you know how many time 2Pac has been shot and locked up? Yea, it made news, but damn, we didnt hear about it in every interview, commercial, and magazine his entire career!His career was planned out in a board room with guys in suits drinking coffee thinking about what extra shit they could throw out to suburbia!

You can hear 50 cent on 95.5 the beat! WTF?!? My aunt took Mobb Deeps Hell On Earth from me and my cousin, and we lived in the hood, but you can hear 60 all day on TRL. Camron isnt as nice as he used to be, but I can listen to a camron track and I can relate to what is being said, and its real things I know your not going to "hear" about. He talks about KTown in Chicago, moving with the Peter Pan and Greyhound being shook up, trips to NC. Hood shit, that your average teeny bopper isnt going to understand because it doesnt make sense. 50 Cent does it, I wont lie.

"That cat that sold coke, that cat that sold dope, that cat that shot dice- went broke and sold soap"

I can listen to that and be like 'AIght, hes actually been in the hood". There are shootings everwhere, doesnt mean you can rap. I can not say it enough, I dont care how many records you sell, it doesnt mean that your rap game is tight. From what I hear WIlliam Hung is selling records too. BTW, as of now 50 has only went 2x platinum. Maybe if he was little more commercial he can sell as many records as Nelly!

Pun? Pun was nice, no doubt! I think if he had more time, he would have been a greater rapper. The same for BIG. To me, BIG was a SERIOUS SERIOUS rapper. Too bad he only got 2 albums deep in his career. Fat Joe? He has the possibility to be nice, but he realizes that hes making commercial music.


em, I have always said is lyrically talented. I used to fuck with this white chick from Detroit [well, kinda still do] and now I can see why he raps about pills and all that shit because its big in that environment, cool. But he is a battle rapper! em is commercial to death, and hes not even trying on his CDs! Listen to em on some shit like on the Obie Trice CD the track assassins. The Next Friday soundtrack. The soundbombing CD. SICK! Shit that would scare someone trying to battle him! Your average person who buys an eminem CD isnt going to be on the train or huddled in 5 points buying the newest mixtape.

What pissed me off the most was when I saw the interview with 50 and he said that he felt that hip hop was in an ok state. WTF? We dont even get WuTang releases anymore! Name one song that 50 has put out that in 5 years, people will be banging and bobbing their heads? Biggie? LOL, bust out a CD. Dre or Snoop? Your joking right? Well, maybe snoop back in the day, LOL, but those artist put out CLASSICS!

Oh, BTW, dont sleep on my boy common!

[quickdodge®]

Although I could give a shit about folks like Common, Mobb Deep and Dilated Peoples, I can give it to them because they seem to keep it real. My music tastes keep me to the Best Coast and I tend to listen to mutha fuccers like South Central Cartel, CMW, PPC, ATL. They are like the Mobb Deeps of the Left Coast. They keep it straight and not pop. You don't even hear their shit on the radio, let alone 95.5 or Star 94. Without Googling, I bet that well over 3/4 of the people here could tell me any of the song titles of SCC. I've been listening to them since their onset. Keep it gutter. I guess that's the main reason I could give a shit about Feminem or Fiddy. Besides the fact that I don't like the way they sound. Later, QD.

[MitsuEvo6]

IMO, 50 sells so many cd's because 10-13 year old white girls don't know how to burn a cd. I'd like to know for sure, but think 50 has the respect from "the hood" that he's rapping about.

But that's just my .5..my bad .02

[quickdodge®]

50 cent is definitely a pre-teens ideal rapper. Lolol. Reminds me of a song that came out in the mid to late 80's by a group called Divine Sounds. It was called "What People Do For Money." One of my favorites back in the day. Later, QD.

[Jaimecbr900]

Excuse my being nieve on this subject, but I have one question:

What is so wrong with going mainstream? I mean, I understand the whole street credo movement thing, but isn't that more just used as a stepping stone rather than actual credentials? Why wouldn't you want to go platinum? Why wouldn't you want to be heard on the radio? Isn't that the exact thing you are working for as an entertainer?

Also: Why would you want to play extremely profane songs on public radio? There's no efficient way to censor it. It's not like radios come with a Vchip. I wouldn't want my 11 yr old turning on the radio and hearing about "big dicks, muthafukas, and ho's". So, I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do these people want credit and "respect" w/o being able to be heard by millions of people? Kinda of an oxymoron, isn't it?

I seriously don't know the whole rap "game" philosophy so excuse my not understanding. I'm not trying to criticize anyone. I just would like to understand something that doesn't make sense to me.

[Julio]

Excuse my being nieve on this subject, but I have one question:

What is so wrong with going mainstream? I mean, I understand the whole street credo movement thing, but isn't that more just used as a stepping stone rather than actual credentials? Why wouldn't you want to go platinum? Why wouldn't you want to be heard on the radio? Isn't that the exact thing you are working for as an entertainer?

Also: Why would you want to play extremely profane songs on public radio? There's no efficient way to censor it. It's not like radios come with a Vchip. I wouldn't want my 11 yr old turning on the radio and hearing about "big dicks, muthafukas, and ho's". So, I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do these people want credit and "respect" w/o being able to be heard by millions of people? Kinda of an oxymoron, isn't it?

I seriously don't know the whole rap "game" philosophy so excuse my not understanding. I'm not trying to criticize anyone. I just would like to understand something that doesn't make sense to me.

If I was a rapper I would want to be comercial, fuck all this I make music for the ghetto shit.

Dre said it best, "If I have to make music comercial to sell, Ill make it, If i want to make music for the ghetto ill make it, you just dont see it coming" The CHRONIC for example this albums sold of the rack like hot cake, everywhere.

And who said Fat joe sucks? Fat joe is not an idiot, Fat joe has been around since some of you were in 5th grade, Go listen to some of his 1st tapes and then talk shit.
Joe is a veteran, Shit is he realize making music for the ghetto is not putting food on the table.
And you would realize he was still making music for the streets when He had Big Pun under his belt, He made Big Pun Comercial while he was still making street music. But BIG pun passed, Joe had no other option.

I don't like 50's Lyrics and the only reason I listen to his shit is because Of DRE, Im a huge Dre fan.

Rakim said one time " I wish Rap was comercial back in my days" and hes one of the greatest lyrical rappers out there.

Music is like selling crack, you sell it to anyone to make money

Tupac " selling crack to the kids, But hey, thats the way it is"

[quickdodge®]

What is so wrong with going mainstream? I mean, I understand the whole street credo movement thing, but isn't that more just used as a stepping stone rather than actual credentials? Why wouldn't you want to go platinum? Why wouldn't you want to be heard on the radio? Isn't that the exact thing you are working for as an entertainer?

I just don't like commercialized rap becuase the lyrics aren't what I want to hear. In commercialized rap, you have to make what the BIG GUYS want you to make. Something that will be "safe" to play on air. You can't rap what you want to rap. So the "fakeness" comes out. Everyone associates rap with the streets. Well, that's because it is. In the streets, your rep preceds you. More times than not, if you rap what the BIG GUYS tell you too, it won't be pure street. It'll sound fake. You sound fake, folks will think you're fake. That's why Ja Rule got heat from the West Coast because he was "street" and making love songs with Ashanti and such.

Also, think of it in a way like this, Jaime. In my opinion, to me, rap is like fixing up my car. I want something that no one else is listening to. I'm not exactly trying to be a leader, yet I'm not trying to be a follower, either. I don't want to bump something that everyone else is bumping. I want something no one else hears. Hope you understand a little better. It just goes along with the code of the streets. It may sound stupid, but that's just how it is. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

And who said Fat joe sucks? Fat joe is not an idiot, Fat joe has been around since some of you were in 5th grade, Go listen to some of his 1st tapes and then talk shit.
Joe is a veteran, Shit is he realize making music for the ghetto is not putting food on the table.
And you would realize he was still making music for the streets when He had Big Pun under his belt, He made Big Pun Comercial while he was still making street music. But BIG pun passed, Joe had no other option.

I doubt this was headed my way because I never said he sucked or was an idiot. I did say he wasn't near being the best rapper alive. Later, QD.

[Julio]

I doubt this was headed my way because I never said he sucked or was an idiot. I did say he wasn't near being the best rapper alive. Later, QD.

Na QD I saw a couple of people say he sucked, he just a business man you know.

But I agree, hes no way near best rapper status. But hes an OG

[quickdodge®]

OG, yes. He's been around. I remember. Lolol. He had good shit. RIP to him. Later, QD.

[FrnkPwrs]

Excuse my being nieve on this subject, but I have one question:

What is so wrong with going mainstream? I mean, I understand the whole street credo movement thing, but isn't that more just used as a stepping stone rather than actual credentials? Why wouldn't you want to go platinum? Why wouldn't you want to be heard on the radio? Isn't that the exact thing you are working for as an entertainer?

Also: Why would you want to play extremely profane songs on public radio? There's no efficient way to censor it. It's not like radios come with a Vchip. I wouldn't want my 11 yr old turning on the radio and hearing about "big dicks, muthafukas, and ho's". So, I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do these people want credit and "respect" w/o being able to be heard by millions of people? Kinda of an oxymoron, isn't it?

I seriously don't know the whole rap "game" philosophy so excuse my not understanding. I'm not trying to criticize anyone. I just would like to understand something that doesn't make sense to me.

Its really about having respect for the genre. Going commercial betrays the original fanbase. If you got all of your hype from underground clubs, mixtapes, battling in front of XandX liquor store, then more than likely you made music for that audience, thats why everyone thinks your hot. You made music that audience embraced and liked. Then you get "discovered" and you totally forgot about that audience. You make music that people play at the Rave and Express at the mall play inside the store.

its selling out. Its making music where your main motivation is something that will sell records, not something that sounds good and expresses what you want to say. An artist usually doesnt paint a picture based on the sole purpose of "I think this will sell". Usually an artist paints what they want/how they feel, then the price is something other than the primary issue.

BTW, not all noncommercial artist are full of people using extremely explicit lyrics. Pick up damn near anything frm Rawkus records. The Roots. Mos Def and Talib Kwali on the BlackStar tape. Oh, speaking of!

Ok, Mos Def has made more money off of his acting success than off of music. He is always on Dave Chapelle doing roles, etc. Now usually when rappers get into acting, its really lame, they change up, forget abotu their audience, etc. etc. etc. Mos Def can put out a song today, and it will soudn the exact same as when i first started listening to him in like 98. The same sharp style.

Now look at DMX from his first album. From "Boom boom boom, open the door, ATF, send my girl to the front door to say he left" to that "Party up" shit. Im not trying to hear that!

Look at snoop now and look at doggystyle snoop. I can respect the music he makes now, but snoop in doggystyle was SICK. No comparrison. When we have rappers who are commercial, it makes us feel like we had our backs turned on us becuase then its like the good music is gone!

[Cricket]

here is the bottom line.. everyone has beef with everyone to sell records! none of these guys are ready to take it to the next level like tupac.. he lived what he wrote and he practiced what he preached! he lived by the gun and died by the gun! 50 cent nor nas or gay ass Z has enough balls in their pants to be a real G... rap battling will always be here because it sells records! Now for those who say 50 cent cant rap than your wrong... he can does and will rap.. look at his record sells... NAS is a punk ass bitch and so is Gay z! actually fuk the east coast sound in general xcept for the WU, naughty and mobb deep.. they all pretty much leg hump other rappers to get their shit heard!

eminem is the most lyrically gifted cat out there right now.. and since 50 is on his team i would have to say that they could hand anyones out theres ass to them on a silver fukin platter... o.k. im done

[Greddypacked]

^^^ Chill bra, dont forget about dre in that team or GGGG G-Unit (Loyd Banks, the Game, etc...)

Beef in rap suckz. 50 can rap and has some good beats and tracks to back him up. Dre, Eminem, and G-Unit combined is pretty much a perfect combo in the industry right now. I like alot of artists out their that actually have beef against each other, but i dont go about whose on whose side. I like their music so i get what i like. Alot of rappers deal w/ it in different ways, some in beef and others in i dont give a sh!t what you have or say as long as im selling and im on top of the charts. I know Rule had alot against 50 when he first came out and Rule died down for a little bit w/ Murder Inc. A while later he came back w/ great artists like Kelly, Jada, Fat Joe, Ashanti and so on rapping about were still here and nothing is going to stop that and sold hits all day. Beef sucks in music, they should get around it and rap about something better than it. Though, sometimes it is funny how they configure their rhymes in a rap about someone else, but i still think it's sh!t.

[quickdodge®]

^^^ Chill bra, dont forget about GGGG G-Unit (Loyd Banks, the Game, etc...)

You must be joking.

50 can rap and has some good beats and tracks to back him up. Dre, Eminem, and G-Unit combined is pretty much a perfect combo in the industry right now.

The only thing 50 really has going for him is Dre and unfortunately Fem. Without them, 50, Young Fuck, and Llyod Stanks aren't really much of anything.

none of these guys are ready to take it to the next level like tupac.. he lived what he wrote and he practiced what he preached!

None that most people hear of. I hear of folks all the time going down by their lyrics. Just none of them big time like Pac. Except one. C-Murder.

eminem is the most lyrically gifted cat out there right now..

Disagree. He may be good, but not the most.

and since 50 is on his team i would have to say that they could hand anyones out theres ass to them on a silver fukin platter.

Disagree again. 50 would only win because of Fem. Later, QD.

[FrnkPwrs]

Beef shit is hurting hip hop. I preferred when it was someone just talking shit in an interview or smoething, now its like everyone MUST beef with someone to make it. Who cares? All that gossip and drama is shit that I would expect females to talk about in bathrooms while fixing lipstick. I dont walk aroudn liek "Oh, did you know 50 cents babysitter is coming out with some shit against skee lo for saying that he wish he was a baller?" Im tired of all the beef! Im tired of having a CD, it sounds good, but then its got a gimmicky song on the CD that FORCES me to remember the beef pickle tom had with money mark. Its wack!

And none of these beefs are happening in a way where you cant deny who the winner is! There is always rumors about people going on pay per view battling. First it was a nas and jay rumor, then it was a 50 and jada rumor. I want to see these people battle! Nas wont do it because it was admitted that hes not a freestyler. But THAT is hip hop! Its like the Cassidy and Freeway tape! Battling in hotel lobby, backstage at a club, whatever, but give me that bomb, hood, grimey, bunch of people in a circle bobbing heads talking shit. Thats real hip hop, not people wearing bullet proof vest outside their clothes because "They always gotta have security" Fugazi ass shit...

[FrnkPwrs]

G Unit is wack. Young buck, not lyrically gifted. Ill give it to Banks, hes nicer than 50, but that doesnt say much. I actually like Tony Yayo from some shit htat I heard from GUnit Radio because he has that cocky swagger ["When I be using them big words, your bitch be feelin me!"] They have skill, no doubt, but they arent the hardest out there!

There are TONS of people who live the life, and its not always the best thing. I mean, look at Big L. BIg L and his brother moved dope, and they shot him looking for his brother. There was a dude named XRaided who wrote a song about a robbery, and then later was locked up because it was basically him describing a real robbey he had done. Camron, LOL, go to Chicago and ask about him. The kid moves weight! Even old school rappers Big Daddy Kane and MOP, still in the hood. Beanie Siegel, Peedi Crakk, TI, still in the hood doing their thing. Those are all rappers I know FOR FACT get down and boogie. I hear from people in the Bronx that Terror Squad is a crew, not only a rap group, doing things in the hood. There are people doing their thing, its usually not blown up until someone gets locked up.

And Im with QD. Em has skill, I will never change my mind on that. But not the best. Not lyrically. I would love to see him battle cassidy or canibus. I would pay to see that!

[carrascopa]

wait who is more lyrically gifet than em? thats living not dead....

[FrnkPwrs]

canibus

[FrnkPwrs]

And canibus is a fair matchup because they have VERY simliar, battlerap styles

[quickdodge®]

I agree. I don't listen to him, but he would sure give that white guy a run. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

By the way, you guys know that Dr. Dre has signed on another cracka? Dude name Epik from Ohio. Later, QD.

[carrascopa]

y r u too in on a saturday night! I mean i gave up my partying hat to be a family man.. but you frank at least shoud be out

[quickdodge®]

Lolol. Later, QD.

[soul]

Immortal Technique could hand all of them their ass's anyday of the week

[FrnkPwrs]

LOL, im getting drunk tonite so im waiting on my designated driver to come show up! Imma be at Disco Rodeo, Santo Domingo, and atlanta peach tonite!

[Jaimecbr900]

Well, I follow all that, but it still doesn't make sense to me.

Again, I'm not well-versed and I'm just a run-of-the-mill listener. I know what I like and what I don't. To be honest, I listen to lyrics as a second to the beat or music itself. If it sounds good, then I like it. Sound is what attracts me and not the drama before the CD comes out. After I like the sound, I listen to the lyrics. Some of the lyrics are cool. Others don't make any sense at all. To be honest, most are about the same theme anyway; I was from the ghetto, now I'm rich, now I'm the shiat, now I got women, now I wanna screw them all....... So, in essence they are all fighting over who talks the most shit about what they think they are, huh?

With that said, I still don't get why people or rappers fight over who is the "hardest" or "ghettoest" is. That's like bragging about who the dumbest person is. Who really cares? If they are really in the business to stay true to their "roots", then why bother to be signed with ANY label then? And if not signed, why down those that are?

Still don't get it. Sorry. If I was in the business, my goal would be to be on top. Why else get into it? To stay on the bottom? To struggle? Just doesn't make sense. It sounds to the layman like me like a bunch hating. If you don't like an entertainer for one reason or another, cool. But to hate them for simply being on top? That's silly.

[quickdodge®]

I do agree, Jaime. But of course rap has been like that since damn near its inception. Since BDP vs. MC Shan, from LL Cool J vs. Big Daddy Kane, from LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe Dee up to now. Only within the last several years has it really esculated. Back ni the day, it was cool. Just kept on wax. And not much talk about actual killing. Later, QD.

[Jaimecbr900]

I do agree, Jaime. But of course rap has been like that since damn near its inception. Since BDP vs. MC Shan, from LL Cool J vs. Big Daddy Kane, from LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe Dee up to now. Only within the last several years has it really esculated. Back ni the day, it was cool. Just kept on wax. And not much talk about actual killing. Later, QD.

True.

[FrnkPwrs]

I understand your listening style, and its similiar to how tons of people listen to all types of music. The problem lies in that a lot of commercialized music is what hits the radio, instead of the stuff with more meaning then "I got this, that, and the extra that over there".

Yea, no doubt, there is lots of bragging in hip hop and rap. But for someone who made it from being homeless, making pennies, not knowing if today is the day you are going to die or get locked up, its understandable that you might want to brag about the new bimmer you have in couple songs.

And Ill be honest there are lots of songs and artist talking about guns, drugs, sex, etc., but this is music mostly from the hood. Then there is just as much music that is in the opposite and talking about other things, but it just never makes radio or TV. Those artist like common arent celebrated as often as your GUnits, because your number one consumer of rap music isnt into that. The closest thing to it is the neptunes, because they are into making music that they feel will change the way we listen to it. Working with artist with different sounds and using different concepts.

True, are into making music for being famous and being paid. Then there are some people into making music for making good music. A poet usually writes whats on their mind, not what people will find the most contraversial. An artist usually paints what they feel, not what they think is newest trend to make a $10k sell for a painting. Its about the integrity of your music. All about selling out.

Staying to the roots is OK, because a lot of rappers dont seek major deals. A prime example, Mike Jones, and you may have heard his music. A lot of rappers are only seeking distribution instead of being signed to other larger labels. i.e. Diplomats, Rawkus, Grind Time, BMF, Oomp Camp. You just gotta look further than radio for those stories. See the movie Brown Sugar, it deals with the status of hip hop.

But I will never agree with all of the BEEFING! Its annoying the hell out of me, becuase now people are known for who they are beefing with, not what they said on thier CD. ITs always been there, not as frequent as now. Its beginning to be the bulk of whats being focused on right now. Usually the hardest rappers are the ones who arent talking about it

[Jaimecbr900]

I don't know, maybe it's because I'm not into as much as some of you guys are but.......It still doesn't make sense to me. I got all the basics down, but it just seems to me like hate is clouding some of these guy's judgement.

I'm cool with people not liking each other for one reason or another, but it just seems to me that if it's about one person being "harder" or more "ghetto" than the other as the reason for the beef.......that's stupid, aint it? Even more so if they are fighting over who sang with who. I'm just saying that it all sounds silly to me. Maybe I'm missing something.

[FrnkPwrs]

I cant get into a artist being mad because someoen recorded wiht someone else either. Thats emotional. Thats whining. He can disagree wiht someone, but why are people making the world stop when 50 cent doesnt like someone? I dont think that the issue of being "harder" is really the main focus. When rappers battle, they talk about one being better than the other.

So its not neccessarily who shot more people literally, but boasting, making yourself look better while your rapping. It would be boring if someone was like "I just purchased a bimmer, a wonderful new watch, and a lakefront property, which is something you havent got". Instead people say that "Stacks so fat they sag my pants back, expose my asscrack, instead of a bank statement i just check numbers on the nasdaq" or something like that.

[accordon17s]

T.I. rips flip- 99 problems

King of the place, called home of the bass
He emerged at the trap, from the zone of the flake
Caught a case, and he still keep a chrome on his waist
For the haters in the face, gettin' thrown in the waist
Like a pussy nigga named Lil' Wesley, tryna test me
On your best behavior what your faggot ass best be
Choose words carefully when you address me
You ain't gotta like me, but you're gonna respect me
(Or else) or else you get wet like a jigsknee
Take ten of these and live, that'll impress me
Say I wanna rap on your songs but you aint let me
See you on the front of The Source, like that upset me
Fuck you in the ass, I aint mad 'bout shit
Try Tip, shot quick, that's all your ass gon' get
And I aint finna put a mass on Flip
Imma empty out the clip and your ass gon' flip
Bet your mom and your dad gon' trip
But them the consequences tryna mash on Tip
Nigga, lyrically I'll murk you
Physically I'll hurt you
You ain't never ran the streets, you had a curfew
Pussy nigga playin' with me, you'll be in the dirt soon
Look you in the eye see you sweet like perfume (muah)
So go on, keep runnin', you dick sucker
Imma swing, show the world that you just a big sucker
Daddy shoulda got some head, wish he woulda worn rubber
But he didn't, so now I guess the world gotta suffer
You the kind of wanksta, gangsta's done had enough of
So imma take pride when I ride through and bust you
Tip will be the reason for the saddest day your momma seen
When I let this case slay a nigga like the Drama King

OWNAGE!

[bicsintegra]

T.I. is the king of the south flip luda they have nothing on his flow or his style. luda has good beats and that is it he might have 1 or 2 ggod songs per album. flip don't get me started with that shit. as for the whole g-unit against new york thing. fifty is a marketing plan gone extremely well, that is it. some whiteman is sitting in a room taking every aspect of fifty's life and tunrning it into dollars. i ain't mad at him or fifty for the money i have done worst things. there is nothing special about fifty cent he grew up in the same bullshit that most black men did no daddy momma wroking 2 jobs and the streets raised me, me too. in today's society it is so cool to be "urban" black thug gangsta or whatever you want to call it. i was born in queens raised in brooklyn and all i dreamed of was getting the fuck out. fifty is being marketed to people who will never stand on the block, bust shots off the roof, fuck on the roof, or move bricks in the hood. the same reason why scarface is a cult classic is why fifty is selling records. jada or nas would rip fifty who is not a freestyle artist. eminem would probably give nas a good run but jada forget about it. nas is not a f.s. battlerapper but jada is. fifty will loose this battle and he will still sell millions and make millions but his rep in the streets will suffer. if he so gangsta why didn't he answer scarface? like jada said
" it just don't look decent,
it's like niggers went on tour
and took the whole fucking precinct."

[A.P. Photography]

I don't know, maybe it's because I'm not into as much as some of you guys are but.......It still doesn't make sense to me. I got all the basics down, but it just seems to me like hate is clouding some of these guy's judgement.

I'm cool with people not liking each other for one reason or another, but it just seems to me that if it's about one person being "harder" or more "ghetto" than the other as the reason for the beef.......that's stupid, aint it? Even more so if they are fighting over who sang with who. I'm just saying that it all sounds silly to me. Maybe I'm missing something.

I agree

[quickdodge®]

T.I. isn't King of the South. Later, QD.

[NzProjeKt]

hahaha I cant wait to hear NAS bust lyrics on his ass.

He is saving them all for his new album.. Nasdaq Dow Jones
Which BTW should be droppin sometime this summer or closer to the end of the year.....

[bicsintegra]

T.I. isn't King of the South. Later, QD.

then who is? by terms of respect nobody is repping the south like t.i. in a non-country slang backwoods way ie. trillville, slim thug, mike jones, paul wall, lil flip, or lil john and ying yang, or the mighty 36 mafia.

the only person who could give him comp with that title is trick daddy or outkast and they are falling off.

[bicsintegra]

I do agree, Jaime. But of course rap has been like that since damn near its inception. Since BDP vs. MC Shan, from LL Cool J vs. Big Daddy Kane, from LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe Dee up to now. Only within the last several years has it really esculated. Back ni the day, it was cool. Just kept on wax. And not much talk about actual killing. Later, QD.

everything was better back in the day music, t.v., jordans, life, oh well.......

[quickdodge®]

everything was better back in the day music, t.v., jordans, life, oh well.......

You're damn right. Except for the Jordan's. Chuck Taylor's this way.

then who is? by terms of respect nobody is repping the south like t.i. in a non-country slang backwoods way ie. trillville, slim thug, mike jones, paul wall, lil flip, or lil john and ying yang, or the mighty 36 mafia.

the only person who could give him comp with that title is trick daddy or outkast and they are falling off.

None of them are worth considering King of the South. We're looking at the most contribution from an artist. Coming to mind is Scarface of Geto Boys or UGK. T.I. has the makings of the new or adding his name to the list. T.I is the only southern rapper right now worth a shit. Later, QD.

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You're damn right. Except for the Jordan's. Chuck Taylor's this way.
None of them are worth considering King of the South. We're looking at the most contribution from an artist. Coming to mind is Scarface of Geto Boys or UGK. T.I. has the makings of the new or adding his name to the list. T.I is the only southern rapper right now worth a shit. Later, QD.

i know ti hasn't added a lot to the south's list of achievements but right now he is on top of the rap game in the south with little competition. when i look at most osuthern rappers i just start laughing they look like clowns not even believable in their own videos.