1) Does God or the word 'Christian' or 'Catholic' come up in this movie? No.
2) Is this movie anti-religious? Fox, the most right-wing Christian media source in America, says:
I’ve seen the whole movie, a sumptuous two-hour adventure that has as much to do with being anti-Christian or Catholic as "Flipper." So much for that.
3)Does God DIE in these books? These are actually two questions. Here is the question broken down:
3a) Does God-- Refer to 4b. [[blah]]
3b) --die in these books? Yes. Refer to the exact passage in question, which is posted at the end of this thread
4)Do the children KILL God in these books? These are also two questions. Here is the question broken down:
4a)Do the children kill---No. Refer to the exact passage in question, which is posted at the end of this thread.
4b)--God in these books? You decide:
This is the literal definition of the fictional God in the book, according to the book:
"The Authority, God, the Creator, the Lord, Yahweh, El, Adonai, the King, the Father, the Almighty--those were all names he gave himself," explains the angel Balthamos. "He was never the creator. He was an angel like ourselves--the first angel, true, the most powerful, but he was formed of Dust as we are...The first angels condensed out of Dust, and the Authority was the first of all. He told those who came after him that he had created them, but it was a lie.
This is the metaphorical definition of the actual God who dies in the book, according to the author:
The God who dies is the God of the burners of heretics, the hangers of witches, the persecutors of Jews, the officials who recently flogged that poor girl in Nigeria who had the misfortune to become pregnant after having been forced to have sex - all these people claim to know with absolute certainty that their God wants them to do these things. Well, I take them at their word, and I say in response that God deserves to die.
The Authority, then, is an ancient IDEA of God, kept alive artificially by those who benefit from his continued existence.
Below is the exact passage in question, in full. SPOILER:
“Oh, Will, he’s still alive! But—the poor thing. . . .”
Will saw her hands pressing against the crystal, trying to reach in to the angel and comfort him; because he was so old, and he was terrified, crying like a baby and cowering away in the lowest corner.
“He must be so old—I’ve never seen anyone suffering like that—oh, Will, can’t we let him out?”
Will cut through the crystal in one movement to help the angel out. Demented and powerless, the aged being could only weep and mumble in fear and pain and misery, and he shrank away from what seemed like another threat.
“It’s all right,” Will said “We can help you hide, at least. Come on, we won’t hurt you.”
The shaking hand seized his and feebly held on. The old one was uttering a wordless growing whimper that went on and on, and grinding his teeth, and compulsively plucking at himself with his free hand; but as Lyra reached in, too, to help him out, he tried to smile, and to bow, and his ancient eyes deep in their wrinkles blinked at her in innocent wonder.
Between them they helped the ancient of days out of his crystal cell; it wasn’t hard, for he was as light as paper, and he would have followed them anywhere, having no will of his own… But in the open air there was nothing to stop the wind from damaging him, and to their dismay his form began to loosen and dissolve. Only a few moments later he had vanished completely, and their last impression was of those eyes, blinking in wonder, and a sigh of the most profound and exhausted relief.





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