PS3: CALL OF DUTY 4

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Originally Posted by redGT

been fixed homie go buy you one and join the dark side

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word!?? its on then lol

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Originally Posted by Schugg

cause like i said im not going to spend time on it, why waste my time fighting over which system is better or what games are better. if i wanted to do that i would go in the xbox COD4 thread to start ****, much like you did when you came to this one. im going to think what i want, im not referring to what a little website says or gamers diary whatever your referring too to back myself up. as far as i can tell bioshock has not redefined anything and isnt up for any grammy winning awards. the graphics are good, if you like cartoon graphics, but thats about it. and irregant is a mispelled word. arrogant better? and high end exclusives? word puzzle, final fantasy, spongebob, do look like some high end exclusives! i bet you guys cant wait for those. ill stick with having patients for better qaulity, over get it now new games every week xbox. got to have new games every week when you look at what games your playing. probably get pretty boring

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BioShock is actually the most obvious choice for GOTY for most gaming publications.

I puzzle and spongebob do not look like high end exclusives, sorry.

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Originally Posted by DemonEyez

statistically speaking

ps3 after one year of release has more games than the 360 had after one year of release.
ps3 sold more units after one year of release than the 360 did in one year.

ps3 sales are increasing world wide at a big rate. 360 sales spiked for halo3 then shot back down.

and the RROD problem isnt fixed. and adding more heatsinks to it fixed only 5% of their 34% failure's.

Also all the 360 good games are mostly FPS types. The ps3's top games are mostly all different genre's. A big plus

and the ps3 does have alot of great games coming within the whole next year. mgs4 in about 5 months, ffXIII in about a year. killzone 2 next summer. god of war 3 fall next year. GT5 to name a few and then there are the multiplatform ones like DMC4 of which every demo and Screen you've seen was on the ps3 console for a reason :goodjob: GTAIV will be out soon. rock band etc. reason i bring up the multi platform ones is before the arguement was the 360 was getting all the good games. now there on both.

and for those who realize that a console can be more than just a game machine that breaks alot, the ps3 is an amazing value. for those who say hd movies arent worth it obviously hasnt experienced it.

either way i only play fps's on the pc. need keyboard / mouse

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I am not going to go around digging up failure rate statistics for the 360, but seriously, Killzone Two?

IGN called the first one "underwhelming and mediocre", it got crappy reviews around the board and the general consensus was the graphics and audio were the only things the held the game's crappy gameplay and buggy performance together into something decent.

Why expect the second one to be any better?

The PS3's "top games" have all been to this point either multiplatform or inferior to Xbox's exclusives, and the reviews will back me up on this.

As much as I cringe at the thought of gaming publication asshats being the measuring stick here, it certainly is a lot better than simply stating that <x> <y> <z> sucks "cuz I said so".

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Originally Posted by The12lber

I am not going to go around digging up failure rate statistics for the 360, but seriously, Killzone Two?

IGN called the first one "underwhelming and mediocre", it got crappy reviews around the board and the general consensus was the graphics and audio were the only things the held the game's crappy gameplay and buggy performance together into something decent.

Why expect the second one to be any better?

The PS3's "top games" have all been to this point either multiplatform or inferior to Xbox's exclusives, and the reviews will back me up on this.

As much as I cringe at the thought of gaming publication asshats being the measuring stick here, it certainly is a lot better than simply stating that <x> <y> <z> sucks "cuz I said so".

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:blah: the xbox thread is a little further down :lmfao:

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Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec

:blah: the xbox thread is a little further down :lmfao:

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Facts that support arguments you don't agree with suck.

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Originally Posted by The12lber

Facts that support arguments you don't agree with suck.

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nanh i just don't agree with everytime there is a ps3 thread, you gotta be that one hater. There always a hater in the crowd and you are that guy.

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Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec

nanh i just don't agree with everytime there is a ps3 thread, you gotta be that one hater. There always a hater in the crowd and you are that guy.

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QTF

I have owned both the PS3 and the XBOX 360 elite, and I can truthfully say that the PS3 is better. I sold my PS3 to BB6dohcvtec simply because I did not know a single other person with a PS3, so there was nobody to play online with around my area. All of my friends have 360's, so I got a 360 elite. Graphics wise the PS3 is a little better. The online play and setup of the online system on the xbox is much better though. However, to watch movies in HD you have to buy a seperate HD-DVD player which is only HDMI 1.2, where as the blu-ray player in the PS3 is true HDMI 1.3 1080P. If sony could come up with an online system like XBOX LIVE, they would own the video game console market.

All in all, people can't hate on one or another unless they have owned both. I plan on buying another PS3 since the price has come down a lot. I saw at gamestop where they are getting a 40gb PS3 that will cost $399. They are almost as cheap as the XBOX 360 premium now.

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Originally Posted by allmotoronly

I have owned both the PS3 and the XBOX 360 elite, and I can truthfully say that the PS3 is better. I sold my PS3 to BB6dohcvtec simply because I did not know a single other person with a PS3, so there was nobody to play online with around my area. All of my friends have 360's, so I got a 360 elite. Graphics wise the PS3 is a little better. The online play and setup of the online system on the xbox is much better though. However, to watch movies in HD you have to buy a seperate HD-DVD player which is only HDMI 1.2, where as the blu-ray player in the PS3 is true HDMI 1.3 1080P. If sony could come up with an online system like XBOX LIVE, they would own the video game console market.

All in all, people can't hate on one or another unless they have owned both. I plan on buying another PS3 since the price has come down a lot. I saw at gamestop where they are getting a 40gb PS3 that will cost $399. They are almost as cheap as the XBOX 360 premium now.

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And they come with blu-ray. Also when home comes out it is over.

and with the new ps3 40 gb you get spiderman 3 blu ray free and 5 other bluray dvd for free. here is the list of upcoming ps3 games.

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Originally Posted by The12lber

I am not going to go around digging up failure rate statistics for the 360, but seriously, Killzone Two?

IGN called the first one "underwhelming and mediocre", it got crappy reviews around the board and the general consensus was the graphics and audio were the only things the held the game's crappy gameplay and buggy performance together into something decent.

Why expect the second one to be any better?

The PS3's "top games" have all been to this point either multiplatform or inferior to Xbox's exclusives, and the reviews will back me up on this.

As much as I cringe at the thought of gaming publication asshats being the measuring stick here, it certainly is a lot better than simply stating that <x> <y> <z> sucks "cuz I said so".

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reviews will also say that the game u find meh ratchet and clank is reviews as one of the most amazing games ever. so dont bring that in please.

And no the ps3 top games havnt been " multiplatforms"

RFom, heavenly sword, ratchet and clank, motostorm, warhawk.

lets see xbox's top games. bioshock, halo3, gears of war.. wait a minute.. their All FPS type games! oh no what a shocker.

seriously like the other guy said, this was made as a COD4 for ps3 thread. take your hating to the 360 thread. Moderator's also please try and keep these kinda threads clean as not one todate has been succesfull cus of dudes like the above.

and dont go diggin up failure rates cus everyone knows what they are.

and why should killzone 2 be better? because it looks better. cus the demo's are better. cus everyone who's seen it in play said its amazing. Because when a game just uses the same name but is developed comepletely differently and many years later then perhaps it shouldnt be judged on the first one. If that were the case, then batman begins shoulda been really crappy based on the older batman movies. But they went a completely new direction with it and they are doing the same for this game in terms of development.

But either way we can sit and argue here about KZ2 but ima just say this, wait till its out. then say what you want after you've played it. and then it will be your proper opinion vs right now your just speculating based on pretty much nada.

Thers a reason why the FPS games are the best on 360 for a reason, the controls alone. Anyone tried to play fps on a playstation controller, its terrible!!

GTA is supposed to have plenty of xbox live exclusives strictly for the xbox and the xbox only, which has been confirmed numerous times by rockstar.

The ps3 still has a great fanbase, but the truth is that the xbox has already pretty much won over much of the developers, and has become the favorite pretty much. Its really hard to come back from that. The first xbox made a huge comeback, in its last 3 years after halo 2 and xbox live got better and better, and microsoft actually backed up ther product, rather than just drop prices and throw more stuff at you.

Sony has a track record of promising **** and never doing it.. The PS2 was full of that, and it wasnt very reliable either, i had 2 ps2's break for no reason, just one day stopped reading discs.. after that i never bothered with a playstation again. and about half of the games on that list are multiplatform.


and about killzone, man the first one was HORRIBLE!!!!!!! so i have no hope for this one.. the videos look great, but unless i can play it with a 360 controller or a keyboard and mouse, i wont even touch it. i refuse to play a fps with a ps controller!

Played the game online last night, f*cking awesome!

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Originally Posted by JITB

Thers a reason why the FPS games are the best on 360 for a reason, the controls alone. Anyone tried to play fps on a playstation controller, its terrible!!

GTA is supposed to have plenty of xbox live exclusives strictly for the xbox and the xbox only, which has been confirmed numerous times by rockstar.

The ps3 still has a great fanbase, but the truth is that the xbox has already pretty much won over much of the developers, and has become the favorite pretty much. Its really hard to come back from that. The first xbox made a huge comeback, in its last 3 years after halo 2 and xbox live got better and better, and microsoft actually backed up ther product, rather than just drop prices and throw more stuff at you.

Sony has a track record of promising **** and never doing it.. The PS2 was full of that, and it wasnt very reliable either, i had 2 ps2's break for no reason, just one day stopped reading discs.. after that i never bothered with a playstation again. and about half of the games on that list are multiplatform.


and about killzone, man the first one was HORRIBLE!!!!!!! so i have no hope for this one.. the videos look great, but unless i can play it with a 360 controller or a keyboard and mouse, i wont even touch it. i refuse to play a fps with a ps controller!

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yep ty for a good response

but yeah personally i cant play any fps with a controller. while i could hook up my keyboard and mouse to my ps3 as their bluetooth, i'd rather just play it on the pc also.

but in terms of developers yeah they worked primarily on the 360 first. If you read up alot on the newest games coming out multi platform they are now doing seperate developments aka. no 360 design then port. or their making it on the ps3 first and then porting to 360. and that trend will continue on.

heres why they first had problems.

sony has different lvl development kits for making games on the ps3. alpha, beta, and i believe they called the last one gamma instead of theta.

basically SCEA got the alpha kits, and then BIG companies got the beta and small developers got the gamma. Of course the alpha is the best and easiest to use with the most tools and so other compnaies had a few issues. But now sony gives every developr the full alpha set. like with GTAIV. one reason for it being pushed back was that sony gave them a upgraded dev kit and they reworked alot of it.

The companies who were having small problems jnow have a better kit to use and are redoing some of their coding. THus the delays in recent games as sony gave this to people about 1.5 to 2 months ago. and to GTAIV dev team earlier and thats where they saw the advantage to do so.

Going forward if everyone gets the alpha kit, and sony now also sends dev teams to these places to help if needed, were not gonna see many problems at all and as they become more comfortable with the coding the games will of course get alot better.

I have hope for killzone 2, i saw the video's and game play video's and it seriously looks amazing. The details, physics, etc look wicked.

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Originally Posted by DemonEyez

yep ty for a good response

but yeah personally i cant play any fps with a controller. while i could hook up my keyboard and mouse to my ps3 as their bluetooth, i'd rather just play it on the pc also.

but in terms of developers yeah they worked primarily on the 360 first. If you read up alot on the newest games coming out multi platform they are now doing seperate developments aka. no 360 design then port. or their making it on the ps3 first and then porting to 360. and that trend will continue on.

heres why they first had problems.

sony has different lvl development kits for making games on the ps3. alpha, beta, and i believe they called the last one gamma instead of theta.

basically SCEA got the alpha kits, and then BIG companies got the beta and small developers got the gamma. Of course the alpha is the best and easiest to use with the most tools and so other compnaies had a few issues. But now sony gives every developr the full alpha set. like with GTAIV. one reason for it being pushed back was that sony gave them a upgraded dev kit and they reworked alot of it.

The companies who were having small problems jnow have a better kit to use and are redoing some of their coding. THus the delays in recent games as sony gave this to people about 1.5 to 2 months ago. and to GTAIV dev team earlier and thats where they saw the advantage to do so.

Going forward if everyone gets the alpha kit, and sony now also sends dev teams to these places to help if needed, were not gonna see many problems at all and as they become more comfortable with the coding the games will of course get alot better.

I have hope for killzone 2, i saw the video's and game play video's and it seriously looks amazing. The details, physics, etc look wicked.

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oh ok, well atleast they are trying. ill admit sony has a new commercial running showing soem new games, and it looks nice. The price is about right also. As much **** as i talk about Gran turismo, everytime i see videos of it i want it...lol it bring back memories of 10th grade playin GT2 all night! i do kind of want a ps3, imjust disappointed with their lack of games..and ve been a xbox fanboy for so long...lol its hard to go back

Yeah I got it for the PC. Shooters on consoles are lame, I don't even remember the last time I played a shooter on my PS3.

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Originally Posted by DemonEyez

reviews will also say that the game u find meh ratchet and clank is reviews as one of the most amazing games ever. so dont bring that in please.

And no the ps3 top games havnt been " multiplatforms"

RFom, heavenly sword, ratchet and clank, motostorm, warhawk.

lets see xbox's top games. bioshock, halo3, gears of war.. wait a minute.. their All FPS type games! oh no what a shocker.

seriously like the other guy said, this was made as a COD4 for ps3 thread. take your hating to the 360 thread. Moderator's also please try and keep these kinda threads clean as not one todate has been succesfull cus of dudes like the above.

and dont go diggin up failure rates cus everyone knows what they are.

and why should killzone 2 be better? because it looks better. cus the demo's are better. cus everyone who's seen it in play said its amazing. Because when a game just uses the same name but is developed comepletely differently and many years later then perhaps it shouldnt be judged on the first one. If that were the case, then batman begins shoulda been really crappy based on the older batman movies. But they went a completely new direction with it and they are doing the same for this game in terms of development.

But either way we can sit and argue here about KZ2 but ima just say this, wait till its out. then say what you want after you've played it. and then it will be your proper opinion vs right now your just speculating based on pretty much nada.

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Oblivion- the best game on the PS3- is a multiplatform release.

You'll find that Ratchet and Clank got an average of 89%, which is good, but not amazing, nor were the words of the reviewers generally amazingly flattering.

Same with RFOM.
Coincidentally, same with Warhawk.

Heavenly Sword is a shallow and repetitive game and the reviews reflect this.

As far as Killzone Two goes, how does it look better?
Journalists were reporting that in the versions that were demoed to them the AI was taking cover on the wrong sides of walls and other behavior issues of the sort.

Its developed by the same people, the same people who have a pretty meh track record at developing games. Its more logical to draw the conclusion that it will follow in the foodsteps of mediocrity than tred a new path of grandeur or groundbreaking game design.

Gears of War by the way, a third person shooter. The upcoming Mass Effect (from developer BioWare, which has an extremely good track record) and Too Human, RPGs. What do you want, a platformer too?

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Originally Posted by JITB

Thers a reason why the FPS games are the best on 360 for a reason, the controls alone. Anyone tried to play fps on a playstation controller, its terrible!!

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Really, its because Microsoft bagged partnerships with better devs.

That being said, the PS controller is intolerably small and symmetrical.

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Originally Posted by The12lber

Really, its because Microsoft bagged partnerships with better devs.

That being said, the PS controller is intolerably small and symmetrical.

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a 360 controller isnt symmetrical??? its a bit more ergonomic but thats about it

ON TOPIC: JUST BEAT THE GAME AND NOW I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by The12lber

Oblivion- the best game on the PS3- is a multiplatform release.

You'll find that Ratchet and Clank got an average of 89%, which is good, but not amazing, nor were the words of the reviewers generally amazingly flattering.

Same with RFOM.
Coincidentally, same with Warhawk.

Heavenly Sword is a shallow and repetitive game and the reviews reflect this.

As far as Killzone Two goes, how does it look better?
Journalists were reporting that in the versions that were demoed to them the AI was taking cover on the wrong sides of walls and other behavior issues of the sort.

Its developed by the same people, the same people who have a pretty meh track record at developing games. Its more logical to draw the conclusion that it will follow in the foodsteps of mediocrity than tred a new path of grandeur or groundbreaking game design.

Gears of War by the way, a third person shooter. The upcoming Mass Effect (from developer BioWare, which has an extremely good track record) and Too Human, RPGs. What do you want, a platformer too?

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well lets see. your opinion is oblivion is the best game. ratchet scored over 90 by nearly every reviewer out there and alot of the reviews i read said amazing things about it. Maybe your reading the review in 360 mag or something. I did not find heavenly sword shallow and repetetive btw, by our accounts bioshock would be. as its shorter, and repeats the same mobs moreso than heavenly sword.

upcoming games mass effect is nice looking. but so is drakes fortune. P.S killzone 2 is months and months away from release. they demo's they were showing were there to show mostly the lighting and physics effects as they stated. Which btw looked amazing. how does it look better? err have u seen the demo's and videos?? and if so your stupidly blind please dont drive.

Honestly sounds from your opinions you havnt played a single one of these games and know nothing about them.

either way lets see how the upcoming assasins creed does, which dev's stated will run better on the ps3.. and devil may cry 4..

until then .. stay outta the ps3 thread.. and troll yourself over to the 360 thread.

Ive owned both the 360 and now a PS3. I also own a Wii.

I own a 46in Samsung LCD with HDMI.

I can honestly say the PS3 graphics are much better than the 360. 360 did have some good games but they were all repetitive. I got tired of FEAR, GOW, HALO, etc. cool games but replay value sucked and too easy to beat.

My favorite game on Xbox was Lost Planet. I liked the storyline and the game play.

Now, my PS3 i love. I have Ninja Gaiden and Heavenly sword an those are some of the best games ive played. The environments, gameplay, storyline, etc is much more in depth than most 360 games i played.

the 360 couldnt duplicate the lighting an shadows that the ps3 gives you. It just feels so much more real with the PS3.

I think everyone is judging way to quickly. IMO it really isnt a contest anymore. The 360 came out a year before PS3. In a year Microsoft will come out with the NEXT system an we will be right back in this argument again.

PS3 isnt going anywhere, and its only going to get bigger an get more fans. WIth the prices falling an the games starting to come out faster, they will turn it around, and it will be just as popular as the PS2.

Microsoft, they won a battle maybe, but only because they are a year ahead in sales. Talk to me 1 year from TODAY and see where PS3 is at.

Now as for the wii, Mario Party 8 is a blast to play when your drunk.

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG

a 360 controller isnt symmetrical??? its a bit more ergonomic but thats about it

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I would think ergonomics are an important factor considering you hold the damn thing the whole time you play.

And no, it is not symmetrical, look at where the analog sticks are.

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Originally Posted by The12lber

I would think ergonomics are an important factor considering you hold the damn thing the whole time you play.

And no, it is not symmetrical, look at where the analog sticks are.

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wow please nobody here gives a two ****s about the 360 controller seeing that this thread is about ps3 and cod4. so go down to the 360 cod4 thread or make another thread talking about the size and shape of the damn 360 controller.

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Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec

wow please nobody here gives a two ****s about the 360 controller seeing that this thread is about ps3 and cod4. so go down to the 360 cod4 thread or make another thread talking about the size and shape of the damn 360 controller.

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I'm not the one who brought it up smart guy.

Also, the thinly veiled anger that obviously motivated your profanity makes me lol. This stuff is worth getting upset over.

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Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD

Ive owned both the 360 and now a PS3. I also own a Wii.

I own a 46in Samsung LCD with HDMI.

I can honestly say the PS3 graphics are much better than the 360. 360 did have some good games but they were all repetitive. I got tired of FEAR, GOW, HALO, etc. cool games but replay value sucked and too easy to beat.

My favorite game on Xbox was Lost Planet. I liked the storyline and the game play.

Now, my PS3 i love. I have Ninja Gaiden and Heavenly sword an those are some of the best games ive played. The environments, gameplay, storyline, etc is much more in depth than most 360 games i played.

the 360 couldnt duplicate the lighting an shadows that the ps3 gives you. It just feels so much more real with the PS3.

I think everyone is judging way to quickly. IMO it really isnt a contest anymore. The 360 came out a year before PS3. In a year Microsoft will come out with the NEXT system an we will be right back in this argument again.

PS3 isnt going anywhere, and its only going to get bigger an get more fans. WIth the prices falling an the games starting to come out faster, they will turn it around, and it will be just as popular as the PS2.

Microsoft, they won a battle maybe, but only because they are a year ahead in sales. Talk to me 1 year from TODAY and see where PS3 is at.

Now as for the wii, Mario Party 8 is a blast to play when your drunk.

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+ for smart dude!

heh btw i hope ur picking up some blu-ray movies cus those would look awesome on your 46 sammy i bet.

As for the wii actually the new worms game makes me wish i didnt give mine away : (

Either way.. where is everyone who said they'd pick up the game and give us feedback? either u never picked it up comeon! or take a damn 5 min break to tell us.

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Originally Posted by redGT

ON TOPIC: JUST BEAT THE GAME AND NOW I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!!!

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you must have played alot, im on the hardest difficulty, and im at the spot where the send the dogs after you. how far i got left? as for what to do, play online, its a like another game

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Originally Posted by DemonEyez

+ for smart dude!

heh btw i hope ur picking up some blu-ray movies cus those would look awesome on your 46 sammy i bet.

As for the wii actually the new worms game makes me wish i didnt give mine away : (

Either way.. where is everyone who said they'd pick up the game and give us feedback? either u never picked it up comeon! or take a damn 5 min break to tell us.

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i got it that day it came out took forever to find it, they had it hidden in the back at circuit city when i asked for it. but its a god game, way better then cod3, and if you like resistance,which was my favorite game for a long time, mainly online chances are youll like this one. graphics are good, and online is better

ninja gaiden is a remake form the one on xbox isnt it?

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Originally Posted by Schugg

you must have played alot, im on the hardest difficulty, and im at the spot where the send the dogs after you. how far i got left? as for what to do, play online, its a like another game

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they have dogs in a lot places on the game i need some more dificult i had it on the second to hardest setting and i played for hours on end.i am gettin online tonight

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Originally Posted by redGT

they have dogs in a lot places on the game i need some more dificult i had it on the second to hardest setting and i played for hours on end.i am gettin online tonight

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the first section spot that had dogs. now im just after the area where you save the guy from the heli that crashed, and have to carry him. that part where your in the bomber plane with the 25, 75, and 105mm is probably the coolest thing of any game ive ever played. probably cause it looks nearly just as real as it does normally.

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Originally Posted by The12lber

I'm not the one who brought it up smart guy.

Also, the thinly veiled anger that obviously motivated your profanity makes me lol. This stuff is worth getting upset over.

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and you looked pretty :gay: typing that.

son of a bittttttttttch! im getting very annoyed with the part where you carry LT Price and you end up by a ferris wheel waiting for your heli, and helicopters drop ppl off everywhere and they come from behind the buildings in the far back. any tips on getting past this? i think ive tried everything possible. im on the hardest difficulty so theres all kinds of grenades, and dogs everywhere. all i have is a sniper and c4. i can get a rpg off the ground but its no good cause it dont shoot the helicopters down

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Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec

and you looked pretty :gay: typing that.

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You've caught me, nothing defines gay like laughing at some idiot getting upset over the content of a forum post. Zzzz.

gay would also run along the lines of someone going into threads just to do that, see who they can "upset"

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Originally Posted by Schugg

gay would also run along the lines of someone going into threads just to do that, see who they can "upset"

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I didn't realize it upset people to reply to someone's comment about the Xbox 360 controller in a totally factual and plain manner.

not talking about that, talking about your posting in here in general

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Originally Posted by The12lber

You've caught me, nothing defines gay like laughing at some idiot getting upset over the content of a forum post. Zzzz.

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no your gay because your hating over a game console. as i said again your just that annoying hater in the crowd.

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Originally Posted by Schugg

not talking about that, talking about your posting in here in general

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My only post here that wasn't a reply was "People have PS3s?" .
Try harder.

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Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec

no your gay because your hating over a game console. as i said again your just that annoying hater in the crowd.

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All I did was say "People have PS3s?" which was fairly light hearted in nature and all the Sony fanboys were the ones hating and getting upset. Again, try harder.

More over "hating" is a little melodramatic for a internet forum discussion of video game consoles.