to be fair, i posted that nearly a year and a half ago before the new models came out. haha. Still though, the third party support and better interface (imo) of the iPod lines still makes them superior in my eyes. I should add a disclaimer - I'm a huge Apple zealot, but not one of the douchebags who thinks it makes me cool or something. In other words, I don't make a point to be seen sipping Starbucks chai while typing on my Macbook