Quote Originally Posted by tony
Turbo04, as you can see earlier in this thread I felt just like you do.. it wasn't even the movie that changed my mind but rather the fact that this system can and does work. I talked to a friend in Canada and she just couldn't understand the notion of healthcare that is not affordable.. or why the people of a society cannot enjoy the equal benefit of healthcare. Her attitude on the issue changed my outlook.

Yes taxes will go up but at the end of the day if nobody has to worry about having to take a trip to the hospital, pay $20k for surgery and not be at the mercy of insurance corporations (whose interest is profit, not your wellbeing) then I'm more than willing.. those who have the means can pay low premiums, those who do not give what they can if anything.
Why would anyone pay low premiums if it can be free? I have a co worker that lived in Canada and she said the tax rate was like 20-somthing percent.....23 if I am correct. 23 percent...on everything you buy. No way in hell I'd pay that so joe schmoo can have free insurance. Yes insurnace companies are out to make money...thats the nature of business. No one ever started a company in whatever field and said " gee i don't want to make any money...matter of fact I'd like to loose it". My point exactly that it's not the government/companies/other ppls responsiblity to have your well being in mind. Lets not even talk about the waiting times as it was mentioned earlier to see any given doctor due to the sheer volume of ppl that would rush and see them. Can this system work, yes I'm sure it can. Do I think it's a good idea? No not in the least. At the very best its a band-aid for the real problem...getting people to step up and take responsiblity for themselves and their own health. When you make healthcare free there is no incentive for ppl to live healthy lifestyles or take care of themselves as the "unviersal healthcare plan" says that if there is a problem, we'll fix it for free at no cost to each individual out of pocket.

Take a look at america today...we have all this fuss over stuff like transfats and **** like that. Yes certain companies served/serve stuff that is bad for us, yet they don't force us to eat it. Who do we blame? Not the ones who made a decision to eat it, we blame the companies for selling it in the first place. Guess what? If there was no market for it, we wouldn't have a some of the problems we have now. This aspect of our society carries over into everything....it's ALWAYS someone elses fault.