B16 vs ZC v.endofthebattle

[Grimm Reeper]

such sarcasim

Get it right bitch my pistons was soak in the blood of the road runner!!!


beep beep

The cheetah caught the road runner and ate that hoe


He said that he wasn't no punk ass coyote lol

[bigdare23]

Well no disrespect to Jay or insult, but he lost to a ZC so if that doesn't ring a bell then I don't know what should. So either way both of our motors were not right.

I beat off 2 cyl I could of tried to hang with Alan if not take him lol

True

and my car was heavier than both of you'll. So I guess everyone was at a disadvantage....

[00CelicaGT]

Well no disrespect to Jay or insult, but he lost to 2 ZC so if that doesn't ring a bell then I don't know what should. So either way both of our motors were not right.

I beat off 2 cyl I could of tried to hang with Alan if not take him lol

fixed

[bigdare23]

Anyways, to resolve this you can just jump in line behide Kevin we can do the damn thing! Kevin and I already agreed to a race, so i dont think he would mind too much if another car jump in the mix.

[Grimm Reeper]

Anyways, to resolve this you can just jump in line behide Kevin we can do the damn thing! Kevin and I already agreed to a race, so i dont think he would mind too much if another car jump in the mix.

lol no doubt homie

[bigdare23]

fixed

I give Jermaine till the summer and everyone that clowned him about the ZC experiences will eat those words

[00CelicaGT]

has jay solved some of the problems he was having? i noticed it's was smoking like a mofo when he got on it. looks/smells like oil is blowing past the rings.

[bigdare23]

has jay solved some of the problems he was having? i noticed it's was smoking like a mofo when he got on it. looks/smells like oil is blowing past the rings.

nope

He has a lot of things he still need to fix.

[00CelicaGT]

well let him know if he needs any oem parts or help to hit me up

[Grimm Reeper]

well let him know if he needs any oem parts or help to hit me up

Grand Hustle baby lol

[00CelicaGT]

wat lol

[Revmaynard]

I give Jermaine till the summer and everyone that clowned him about the ZC experiences will eat those words

Everyone's gonna be like LOLZC.

[green91]

This forum has got more support for the ZC than anywhere else ive ever seen LOL. They arent bad motors, its just ive never seen such a close contention between a ton of ZC and b16 EFs LOL.

[00CelicaGT]

man if i can find the parts i need mainly those ITR cams since they are the hardest to find, i would dominate the Squad. lol

[Revmaynard]

But you probably have more money in that head than I paid for my car. LOL

[green91]

i would dominate the Squad. lol

easy there lol.

[Revmaynard]

Get 200whp and that can happen. LOL Although I'm not sure of Dare's hp.

[green91]

Theres a couple EFs in the squad over 200whp. I dont think dare will hit 200whp unless hes got some serious work done that i dont know about.

edit: not talking shit against dare, just that its not an easy feat to get 200+whp on a n/a b16.

[Revmaynard]

I guess I'm just going with the Ef's I know and saw recently. I know you're boosted, but what engine are you running? Southside is running a sbc and I'm sure BabyJ will have his hatch running soon enough from what he was saying.

[green91]

obd1 d16z6. slow_hatch & jfro are also in the 200+ club.

[Revmaynard]

Ah, ok. I think I met slow_hatch once before. Jfro lives outta state though, right? So, you're saying you're in that club? lol

[green91]

I wont talk shit without a dyno graph but yes i should be. slow_hatch has came to many gainesville meets, he was actually at the last one where i met you. jfro is out of state now but ive met him also while he was in GA.

[Papa_Smurf]

This forum has got more support for the ZC than anywhere else ive ever seen LOL. They arent bad motors, its just ive never seen such a close contention between a ton of ZC and b16 EFs LOL.

personally, i thing it's GREAT that there's so many dohc ZC's on this website. they're a cheap swap and a decent upgrade from the stock engines.

although they do not allow for any room to gain significant HP besides boosting them due to their lack of aftermarket parts and they're noooo good for NA.


all in all, i love there's a little rivalry between the zc's and the b16's in the squad, but in the end motor for motor the b16 SHOULD dominate.

[green91]

personally, i thing it's GREAT that there's so many dohc ZC's on this website. they're a cheap swap and a decent upgrade from the stock engines.

although they do not allow for any room to gain significant HP besides boosting them due to their lack of aftermarket parts and they're noooo good for NA.


all in all, i love there's a little rivalry between the zc's and the b16's in the squad, but in the end motor for motor the b16 SHOULD dominate.

I agree on all points. Many years ago when i bought the d16 thats in my car i had actually planned on getting a dohc ZC and boosting it. IF i hadnt found the motor ive gotten more than likely id be a ZC head myself.

[Revmaynard]

Wouldn't the z6 be a better value? More aftermarket and run about the same cost, right? Only costs a bit more to get the vtec harness and such. Does the DOHC zc take the d series mounts?

[green91]

Actually most of the internals are similiar, the dohc zc is basically a dual cam D-series. But yes its easier to find parts since the z6 was a usdm engine and is easier to find replacements for. they both produce similar power also.

[Revmaynard]

Yea, I knew the power part and the availability of the parts. Mainly why I don't want a ZC, besides the lack of power.lol But what I want to know is if the ZC uses the same d series mounts, ecu, and accessories.

[green91]

it does use the d-series mounts, but you should run the pm7 (iirc) ecu and i believe the accessories are interchangeable.

[00CelicaGT]

But you probably have more money in that head than I paid for my car. LOL

not really. i get a great on parts from work since our parts manager used to be the parts manager for nally honda. i get a lot of shit 10% below cost, if u listen when i name wats in the motor it's all oem parts except for the rod & main bearing, rod & main bolt, head studs, and the Golden Eagle LS/VTEC kit.

quick $$ break down of the head

*Complet GSR head (Excluding Dizzy)-$300
*Complete brand new 01 ITR valve train w/ keepers, valve seals-$280
*Porting materials-$100
*Glass beading and pressing in new ferrea brass valve Guides (Scott's machine shop)-$175
*Ferrea Valve guide's- $40


Total= $895

i think ur car is a worth alot more than that REV lol

[Revmaynard]

Haha, thanks! However, I did pay less for it when first purchased.

So you just need cams and then you're going to throw it on?

[00CelicaGT]

Haha, thanks! However, I did pay less for it when first purchased.

So you just need cams and then you're going to throw it on?

i need cams to finishe the motor. but i need cams, tranny (GSR), mounts, shift linkage, send wire harness to Rywire, and tune. i already have the ecu.

i forgot i just bought some Toda cam gears for $120 shipped

so the real total-$1015

wow i didnt realize i spent that much just in the head alone.

[bigdare23]

obd1 d16z6. slow_hatch & jfro are also in the 200+ club.

There's quite a few people in the 200+ club that come out and hang out. They just post every once in a while.

[bigdare23]

Get 200whp and that can happen. LOL Although I'm not sure of Dare's hp.

I'm no where near the 200hp range.

Not yet

[bigdare23]

Theres a couple EFs in the squad over 200whp. I dont think dare will hit 200whp unless hes got some serious work done that i dont know about.

edit: not talking shit against dare, just that its not an easy feat to get 200+whp on a n/a b16.

I know

There only been a hand full of b16 to touch 200hp. Most of them had like 125lbs of torque and revved past 9k

[bigdare23]

personally, i thing it's GREAT that there's so many dohc ZC's on this website. they're a cheap swap and a decent upgrade from the stock engines.

although they do not allow for any room to gain significant HP besides boosting them due to their lack of aftermarket parts and they're noooo good for NA.


all in all, i love there's a little rivalry between the zc's and the b16's in the squad, but in the end motor for motor the b16 SHOULD dominate.

The b16 does dominate the zc

I actually likes the zc hences the reason why I'm considering getting one

[00CelicaGT]

I know

There only been a hand full of b16 to touch 200hp. Most of them had like 125lbs of torque and revved past 9k

and i garuntee they had some port work done

[Papa_Smurf]

The b16 does dominate the zc

I actually likes the zc hences the reason why I'm considering getting one

lol if the b16 isn't weaksos then it will dominate a ZC, but we've seen what happends when they are weaksos

and i'm not sure when i'm going to be able to get a test for ya. when did you want it by?

[bigdare23]

and i garuntee they had some port work done

Thats the only way to make power n/a

[bigdare23]

lol if the b16 isn't weaksos then it will dominate a ZC, but we've seen what happends when they are weaksos

and i'm not sure when i'm going to be able to get a test for ya. when did you want it by?

LOL


Get it done when ever you can homie, I'm in no rush

[00CelicaGT]

Thats the only way to make power n/a

SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! you dont want to give the secret away do ya
you'd be surprised how many people dont know that. lol