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Originally Posted by @utoGrip
hahahahaha all you dumb idiots!Southside's EF has a K swap.
but you can go ahead and assume its a LS.
hahahahahahsure buddy.
southside if i were u i would have stuck wit the LS. it has more tourqe. plus stock B16's are slow and VTEC is over rated
True, or should have kept the single. That way it would have already been done.
southside if i were u i would have stuck wit the LS. it has more tourqe. plus stock B16's are slow and VTEC is over rated
LS w/ a B16 tranny and I agree with you
southside if i were u i would have stuck wit the LS. it has more tourqe. plus stock B16's are slow and VTEC is over rated
LS w/ a LS tranny no
I seen a stock ls on youtube with b16 tranny ran 14.6.
I wanted to see what vtec felt like everyone told me you say its overratted until you have a car with it
southside if i were u i would have stuck wit the LS. it has more tourqe. plus stock B16's are slow and VTEC is over rated
Last edited by southside; 11-29-2008 at 09:26 AM.
1. It gets really old when people keep calling southside a thief, b/c honestly, they have no phucking idea! lol
hahahahaha all you dumb idiots!
but you can go ahead and assume its a LS.
hahahahahahK FTW! maybe we can let the Ks go at it soon.And its not going in this one its going in the Wago
1. It gets really old when people keep calling southside a thief, b/c honestly, they have no phucking idea! lol
and who are you again? never heard of you.
He's a site sponsor LOL.
Bozzio for president.
Wont acquire any new customers acting like that toward people.
Oh, I agree. Hence the ''LOL''.
Bozzio for president.
There is an associated small increase in rotating mass, but otherwise there's really no downside to having VTEC.
alot of people say talk bad about b16 but less torque means less spinning.I seen a fully built b16 with like 130-140tq
1. It gets really old when people keep calling southside a thief, b/c honestly, they have no phucking idea! lol
B16 isnt the only vtec engine though, not all of them are torqueless wonders. I personally just cant stand the power band of the b16.
B16=77mm stroke which =
The B16A was designed for 1600cc class racing in Japan, and it whooped ass up until the release of the B16B.
The stroke is 77.4 btw.
B16 is a great starting engine to upgrade
lol .4 is such a huge difference
Let say, you went to a store and you change was $1.40 and the person only gave you $1 back. You'll bitch about your quarter, nickel, and dime.
I like how everyone is on this "b16 are the slowest" bandwagon after they seen Jermaine and Alan's video. Jermaine's B16 is not the healthiest motor around (ain't that right Green91), so his car doesn't represent every b16 car on the road. Everyone should of seen Jfrolang's b16 before he went boost, he would actually keep up with Toonz GSR swapped Hf. Look at my car, I fuck up launches and still trap at 93mph and run low 15's (cuz I suck at draggin, but my car's a beast LOL). In addition, I put a few cars on a LS swap civic recently
They only motors better than a b16 in a EF is a GSR, Type R, B20Z and Hybrid motors (not including the least common swaps like the H/F's).
#1) i told him it needed rebuild when i sold it to him for dirt cheap.
#2) i dont even like most healthy b16, it really sucks to not have any power until 5500+rpm. thats part of the reason i went back to my boosted sohc. infact, ive yet to race a n/a b16 that can beat my boosted sohc.
my neon has a b16 and it pulls hard
Soon!!
Don't get butt hurt. Jermaine is content with the swap and that's all that matters.
Also, I would hope your boosted z6 would beat a n/a b16. Shit a boosted d15b2 should beat a n/a b16. What's your point for the comparison? That's like comparing apple to oranges. Now put your d16z6 turbo vs another b16 turbo like Jfrolang's and see the result.Per dollar, a boosted d-series is cheaper than a b16 hp wise, but the potential is limited since it's market isn't as large as the b-series market.
Potential is only good if you want to maximize it. 800whp sohc.. not likely. But for sub-400whp (which honestly is more than you could possible use in a steer car) its hard to touch. While the support for the Bs is great, d-series have made great improvements over the last couple of years and there are comparable parts. Everyone just assumes that b-series is the king of everything.Also, I would hope your boosted z6 would beat a n/a b16. Shit a boosted d15b2 should beat a n/a b16. What's your point for the comparison? That's like comparing apple to oranges. Now put your d16z6 turbo vs another b16 turbo like Jfrolang's and see the result.
Don't get me wrong, I love D-series. I always wanted to build a n/a d-series (Bisi is my role model), but I always thought of building high hp d-series as taking risks. Boosting a stock d-series to 215-250hp is like revving a stock rod no arp rod bolt LS/Vtec to 8200 everytime. It can be done, but that's not really a chance I want to take
Im not butt hurt, i just dont see any point in making the jab.
It wasn't a jab, you just took it that way
You could easily end this blasting of JDMJAYDC2 and b16s by just cosigning and saying the motor isn't in the best condition form. Now everyone uses his motor as a basis for all b16s which is not. That's the only reason behind stating what I did. Plus, you know and everyone else who is a true EF enthusiast knows that they are better than any d-series and non-vtec series motor (with the exception of a b20z) in N/A form.
I think of B-series engines as the Small Block Chevy of the import world, and the K-series is like the newer LSx engines.
There will always be people rocking the B, especially in an EF, just like if you look under the hood of the old GM muscle cars, it's more often a SBC than an LSx.
D-series though, is like the slant six, you only stick with it if you're broke.
Yes i understand the b-series bandwagon is just like a sbc 350.. they are everywhere. however not everyone that runs a d is broke, myself included.I think of B-series engines as the Small Block Chevy of the import world, and the K-series is like the newer LSx engines.
There will always be people rocking the B, especially in an EF, just like if you look under the hood of the old GM muscle cars, it's more often a SBC than an LSx.
D-series though, is like the slant six, you only stick with it if you're broke.
i can agree with chris on this entire statement.
i rode in the car with jermaine the night he raced alan, i can honestly say it pulled hard. im not basing my opinion on a B16 from his and Alans race. i just dont really care for the b16 since everyone has one, i have rode in plenty EF's, EG's and etc... hat had B16's in them and was not impressed. most only had I/H/E, a few had some cam's and pistons, and 1 was even boosted. the boost car was the only one that impressed me, but thats because it had a turbo on it. i guess since i dare to be different is why i dont care for them. when i used to street race i beet plenty on the street in my celica which is a GT and is rated 140hp/140trq, maybe that's why im not impressed IDK.
i personally like my "D"... i like it for the simple fact that it's not all over the street, before i even got the car i was planing a swap for it. but when i first got the car and drove it i was very surprised with the power of the car and it's power band. no matter wat gear or RPM the the car will pull all the way to rev limiter. now iv'e fallen victom to the B series bug but that was month's ago when people weren't building LS/VTEC's all over atlanta, now that im almost done im not sure i even want to put it in the hatch. Alan can even chime in and tell u that i have been tosing the idea around of selling the motor. but i still haven't made up my mind, i have even been tosing the idea around of puting a K24 that im about to buy this week and putting it in the hatch, all because i dare to be different.
i have seen plenty of semi built "D's" in EG's and EF's keep up with and some even pass B16's and GSR's that were in the same kind of car's. even Tom Hornsbe will tell u his "D" would run with some of the quickest B series car on the street. iv'e seen him out run mustangs when he had his white EF with a "D" in it.
but in the end it all boils down to the good ol saying... TO EACH HIS OWN
i can agree with chris on this entire statement.
i rode in the car with jermaine the night he raced alan, i can honestly say it pulled hard. im not basing my opinion on a B16 from his and Alans race. i just dont really care for the b16 since everyone has one, i have rode in plenty EF's, EG's and etc... hat had B16's in them and was not impressed. most only had I/H/E, a few had some cam's and pistons, and 1 was even boosted. the boost car was the only one that impressed me, but thats because it had a turbo on it. i guess since i dare to be different is why i dont care for them. when i used to street race i beet plenty on the street in my celica which is a GT and is rated 140hp/140trq, maybe that's why im not impressed IDK.
i personally like my "D"... i like it for the simple fact that it's not all over the street, before i even got the car i was planing a swap for it. but when i first got the car and drove it i was very surprised with the power of the car and it's power band. no matter wat gear or RPM the the car will pull all the way to rev limiter. now iv'e fallen victom to the B series bug but that was month's ago when people weren't building LS/VTEC's all over atlanta, now that im almost done im not sure i even want to put it in the hatch. Alan can even chime in and tell u that i have been tosing the idea around of selling the motor. but i still haven't made up my mind, i have even been tosing the idea around of puting a K24 that im about to buy this week and putting it in the hatch, all because i dare to be different.
i have seen plenty of semi built "D's" in EG's and EF's keep up with and some even pass B16's and GSR's that were in the same kind of car's. even Tom Hornsbe will tell u his "D" would run with some of the quickest B series car on the street. iv'e seen him out run mustangs when he had his white EF with a "D" in it.
but in the end it all boils down to the good ol saying... TO EACH HIS OWN
Jermaine's car pulled hard to you
You like the powerband of your zc, but don't like b16s
As for these b16 killers, cool. I would hope a modded d-series could pull atleast a stock b16, but you level the playing field with the same mods, then b16 all day. Plus, Tom been in the game for a min, so I would bet he's a hellva driver to. Most of the time the driver mod is this best mod you can do for you car. For an example, my 1st time at the track I ran a 15.1, cool. My homie, that did my swap ran a 15.1 in my car missing 3rd gear. The driver mod is a bitch isn't it
I've heard of his lil' NA D spittin' on some b's.
Bozzio for president.
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Yea....Tom is a hell of a driver. LOL
Bozzio for president.
A Lot of people don't realize that my cousin that taught me some stuff about racing,he can drive a lot of people start jaw dropping after they ask him to pop his hood and see a b16,With just a cai they go crazy all you see isJermaine's car pulled hard to you
You like the powerband of your zc, but don't like b16s
As for these b16 killers, cool. I would hope a modded d-series could pull atleast a stock b16, but you level the playing field with the same mods, then b16 all day. Plus, Tom been in the game for a min, so I would bet he's a hellva driver to. Most of the time the driver mod is this best mod you can do for you car. For an example, my 1st time at the track I ran a 15.1, cool. My homie, that did my swap ran a 15.1 in my car missing 3rd gear. The driver mod is a bitch isn't it
1. It gets really old when people keep calling southside a thief, b/c honestly, they have no phucking idea! lol
Cool, your cousin can drive!A Lot of people don't realize that my cousin that taught me some stuff about racing,he can drive a lot of people start jaw dropping after they ask him to pop his hood and see a b16,With just a cai they go crazy all you see is
Question of the day is can you drive?
Yea I get that all the time.And yea I can drive too RUNS IN THE FAMILY
1. It gets really old when people keep calling southside a thief, b/c honestly, they have no phucking idea! lol
does that mean i can drive since were are play cousins lmaoYea I get that all the time.And yea I can drive too RUNS IN THE FAMILY
Soon!!
Yea I get that all the time.And yea I can drive too RUNS IN THE FAMILY
If you think so...
zzzzzz.............ccccccccccccc!!!!!1
nah but for real, anyone who bases that video of me and jermaine as a zc to b16 comparison is an idiot because my zc isn't stock
UPROOT Photography FTW
Guess who checks in, Mr. B16 killer himself.
Mod vs Mod, yes a b16 will outperform a d-series engine. No contest there. BUT level the playing field, mod for mod, a b16 will already typically be approx $2,000 higher due to the cost of the swap, mounts, linkage, axles etc. Invest that money in a D, and dollar vs dollar the b-series cant keep up.
N/A can be quick too, my other EF (when owned by its previous owner) ran 12s on a d16a6 N/A.
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