i'd just like to chime in on this for future reference on behalf of 4touge.com, of which I am the co-founder. We are a tight knit group when we run together. I appreciate the comments about being fast...we try, plus we're up at north georgia alot.

When we go up to the dragon we usually take it down a notch, the risk for cops is high but usually our trips plan around that so we get there right before or right after the main season, so the cops aren't really out.

Also we will absolutely stop if something happens to someone. We actually did have an incident resulting from some cold tires one morning on the dragon trip in question. Safety is of the utmost priority to us and all that take part in our mtn runs and there's always room to learn.

Also for bigger groups we'll typically break into 2 groups based on experience and how fast they want to go...so everyone is comfortable and doesn't feel "pushed," a feeling i personally hate as well. Also we'll usually run a scout ahead in the case that we want to really run quick.

So don't be afraid to join us on a trip in the future. It's always fun and we try and make it as safe as possible.