Oh, and as for the second video...not to call the guy a poon or anything...but I push my car at least that hard, if not harder. You never can get the same feel for a mountain run through a camera lens as you can through the windshield...so I can't vouch. But I didn't hear him barking as much as I make mine...and his you hear the engine revv up, hold, then come down. My engine is either in low RPMs or revving to piss and back.

Granted...I don't always run that hard...but when I'm actually pushin'...I'd give the guy a run.