EF Squad's WhoresLounge

[jfrolang]

is that a non power steering rack?

Of course it is.

[Papa_Smurf]

i remember someone told me to get an HF rack... i think?

I can't remember exactly which one, but I can remember having this discussion before.

[jfrolang]

If you wanted to use a Quaife quick-ratio aftermarket rack & pinion, a CRX HF or dx rack would be the way to go. Otherwise, go with an Si.

[revized_DX]

so what do yall think about a 92 legend front lip on an ef? i know it will take some time and a cut here or there but i think it will def. stand out!

[revized_DX]

^^^ no opinions on this?

[Papa_Smurf]

there's a big thread thats starting on H-T about different lips on EF's

This should end the "can this lip work on my EF" threads

i dont have time to look thru there, but there may be a picture of that lip on an EF. If not then i'd say go for it.

uniqueness FTW

[Revmaynard]

What do you guys use for your strut and pillar bars? Is it all the same in the sense of things? Or are you just paying for a name pretty much?

[Papa_Smurf]

I have a neuspeed upper strut bar.

I havnt used anything els, so i have nothing to compare to it, but I generally go by the design. Like the password jdm upper strut bar attached to both the strut towers and the firewall.

But the c-pillar bar... i mean, i have no idea if that thing actually does any noticeable upgrade handling wise. But they do look nifty! lolol

[cwhiteboy]

mike take it off, that's just useless weight

Its on my daily, a 94 integra, which i'm probably gonna get rid of soon anyways.

[Revmaynard]

Someone was telling me to get a pillar bar since my wagon has bad body roll, but I assume the strut bars would take care of that enough.

[Papa_Smurf]

i'm no suspension gooru so i'm not too sure...

i think Bryan or Ant would be able to steer you in the right direction though

[Revmaynard]

All I can do now is wait then. lol I'm thinking of things I want for Gift-Giving-Day. lolz

[bigdare23]

[SlamminCRX]

wat should i get to better my suspension after i got full coilovers...i have a fully gutted crx lol so its preety light, alan owned me around turns the other night

[bigdare23]

wat should i get to better my suspension after i got full coilovers...i have a fully gutted crx lol so its preety light, alan owned me around turns the other night

Damn Alan is picking on LSvtecs now!!!


Fukkin Bullie



Suspension Tech rear sway bar and Hf front swaybar (if your model isn't one already)

[Grimm Reeper]

Seems like I'm going to have to pull out the chasis that's 400 lbs or so heavier lol


Let me refer to Dare on this, because I'm too lazy to find out that info right now

[bigdare23]

Seems like I'm going to have to pull out the chasis that's 400 lbs or so heavier lol


Let me refer to Dare on this, because I'm too lazy to find out that info right now

92-95 Civics FTF (FOR THE FAIL)

[Grimm Reeper]

92-95 Civics FTF (FOR THE FAIL)

Wow.... your post that I just quoted was filled with FAIL and whatever post you have after I've said what I had to say is quite possibly going to STILL be full of FAIL


We'll see how EPICLY bound my car is to being the epitome of anything that you currently hold in your possession of vehicles

[bigdare23]

Wow.... your post that I just quoted was filled with FAIL and whatever post you have after I've said what I had to say is quite possibly going to STILL be full of FAIL


We'll see how EPICLY bound my car is to being the epitome of anything that you currently hold in your possession of vehicles

[Grimm Reeper]

bwhahahahahahahahahahahaha lol

[bigdare23]

Next meet thread guys

...:::Offical Bigdare's Graduation/EF Squad Meet:::...

[jfrolang]

What do you guys use for your strut and pillar bars? Is it all the same in the sense of things? Or are you just paying for a name pretty much?

Anything with a hinge is garbage and you shouldn't buy it. Neuspeed is the way to go for the front strut brace. PasswordJDM if you want something different, but the fact that it's a 3-point is meaningless, there really isn't any front-to-back flex between the shock towers and the firewall. I have an ESP rear strut brace, but the effectiveness of a rear brace is not as great. The key is just to get a solid bar that doesn't have any moving parts.

[Revmaynard]

Alright, cool. So anything non-hinged or moving will be my best bet regardless of make? From my knowledge the biggest improvement for a wagon is a rear sway bar, and since I swapped to 90-91 si lca's it shouldn't be an issue getting one like before with the wagon lca's.

[cwhiteboy]

Rear sway bars make a big difference on a lot of Front wheel drive cars. Sway bars don't really make your car handle "better", they change the "characteristics" of how your car handles. And of course, in the hands of a good driver, and increase in oversteer can be beneficial, hence, an increase in handling.

[Grimm Reeper]

Hey Jeff I remember watching this way back when I was in middle school http://www.zomganime.com/anime/zoids-new-century-zero/ did you ever catch that back then.

[jfrolang]

I never saw it.

[StraightSix]

I'll second what Jeff said about the strut bars. Definitely don't want anything hinged or that has moving parts. A strut bar, however, will not reduce your body roll in transitional or steady state cornering. A strut bar will increase the torsional rigidity of the chassis, effectively making the suspension work more.

I have heard some chatter that strut bars don't really help that much. I haven't researched the subject myself, so I'm not really convinced one way or the other. I definitely suggest doing some research and then making a decision before spending your money, or someone else's money.

Sway bars, springs, and dampers will change the body's attitude during cornering. Sway bars will be "invisible" while the car is driving in a straight line, and act only under cornering to help keep the car flatter. Springs and dampers must be well matched or else the result is a terrible ride; usually too bouncy. Remember your suspension is a system and that system has to work together well in order to deliver good handling characteristics.

Also, an increase in oversteer =/= an increase in handling in and of itself. The goal should be to create a suspension system that will yield pretty neutral handling that can be controlled through out the corner, from corner entry to corner exit. Too large a rear sway bar relative to the front can introduce snap oversteer, or oversteer when you don't want it. FWD cars are inherently baised towards understeer because of weight distribution, as well as, the compromises made during the design process. Understeer is less scary for the untrained driver than oversteer.

[Revmaynard]

Thanks for the input. My cars suspension is already a little ''off''' since they don't make specific suspension for it. So at the moment my coilover rates are for a regular ef where as I have extra weight in the rear. So sometimes the rear can pretty bouncy or seem like its not firmly planted. From what I've read I can use DA rear coilovers to account for the weight. But who has the money for an extra set to only use the rears? I was also thinking of putting my stock rear shocks back on and getting a good coilsleeve/springs to lower with since I'd have more flexing in the front. Correct?

[jfrolang]

I would recommend you use coilovers with customized spring rates. Eibach sells pairs of custom springs also.

[bigdare23]

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...9#post37367639

[Revmaynard]

I didn't see anything online that offers custom coilovers. I guess that means you have to call them directly to place an order and see pricing?

[StraightSix]

That depends on which product you want to use. I know Ground Control will be very helpful in guiding you toward a solution using their products. Every damper has a range of springs rates that are appropriate for that damper.

[cwhiteboy]

I'll second what Jeff said about the strut bars. Definitely don't want anything hinged or that has moving parts. A strut bar, however, will not reduce your body roll in transitional or steady state cornering. A strut bar will increase the torsional rigidity of the chassis, effectively making the suspension work more.

I have heard some chatter that strut bars don't really help that much. I haven't researched the subject myself, so I'm not really convinced one way or the other. I definitely suggest doing some research and then making a decision before spending your money, or someone else's money.

Sway bars, springs, and dampers will change the body's attitude during cornering. Sway bars will be "invisible" while the car is driving in a straight line, and act only under cornering to help keep the car flatter. Springs and dampers must be well matched or else the result is a terrible ride; usually too bouncy. Remember your suspension is a system and that system has to work together well in order to deliver good handling characteristics.

Also, an increase in oversteer =/= an increase in handling in and of itself. The goal should be to create a suspension system that will yield pretty neutral handling that can be controlled through out the corner, from corner entry to corner exit. Too large a rear sway bar relative to the front can introduce snap oversteer, or oversteer when you don't want it. FWD cars are inherently baised towards understeer because of weight distribution, as well as, the compromises made during the design process. Understeer is less scary for the untrained driver than oversteer.

Was wondering where you were at.

[cwhiteboy]

BTW. Hey rev, nice new sig. I like.

[bigdare23]

Sway bars will be "invisible" while the car is driving in a straight line.

Well Bryan, my sway bar is Green when I drive in a straight line.









Good post!

[StraightSix]

Well Bryan, my sway bar is Green when I drive in a straight line.









Good post!

[StraightSix]

Was wondering where you were at.

Just juggling school, work, and a nearly non-existent social life. School has been consuming most of my time lately and I tend not to post until I have something worthwhile to say.

[Revmaynard]

BTW. Hey rev, nice new sig. I like.

Thanks man. Thanks to Uproot.

[bigdare23]

LOLololololol

[SlamminCRX]

hey dare alan was only picking on me around turns...all i have is some megan racing sleeve coilovers with stock shocks, they suck

he wouldnt pick on me on a straightaway tho

wat a fag
lol jk alan, you lucky my car still doenst run like it should.