i wanna drop my car

[Elbow]

I made my post with the hopes of us resuming this debate, lolol.




I'll be honest, Simon. For the ride height you get with buying lowering springs, you can lower your car via cutting or heating the same amount of drop for so much less and still retain a factory quality ride. Most after market springs will drop you only about 2-3" yes? You can torch two full coils or cut off two full coils and get that same drop and NOT sacrifice ride quality for about $100-300 less. Heating is much easier than cutting because you don't have to remove anything or jack up the car or anything. And a torch costs $10. If you're trying to retain some sort of ride quality and go lower (than 2-3"), then buying after market springs would be your best bet.

I can take you for a ride in heated CVCC and if you didn't know anything about lowering, you'd never know I have torched coils. Later, QD.

Both my E30's had cut springs for a while because it was free and upped the rates a little bit. They rode stock, you would never know it had altered springs on them if they weren't low. Heating can do the same yes but from my experience it ruins the spring. It weakens it and takes the spring out of the spring.

As you know I've always only cared about making a car better versus looks or anything so I've always gone in that direction, cutting isn't how to make a car handle well obviously but it's better then stock when done right and in my opinion fine for a little while if you're saving for something better. Cutting ups the rates and retains a real spring. I've known some really fast road race cars even on cut springs, not to mention I know people including one shop who has played with cutting coilover springs to mess with different rates and such.

So we're basically on the same page that you can have a decent ride and looks with this "ghetto" way of lowering a car, it's just which ones yields better performance results and safety. My red E30 was SLAMMED and it rode like stock, literally I rented a Scion xB for a week and it was bumpy as HELL compared to my E30.

the problem with cutting like my car.. is that when the struts blow...which they WILL! Depending on the strut design it wont hold and alignment over time, because the strut doesnt hold its position and spins forward or backward.... but it gets the job done!


But ive learned that your gonna need struts also.. doesnt matter if they are cheap struts or some tokico. if you can afford buy them as well. Get some ebay coils, and some new struts from Az or wherever. But if you can afford some aftermarket ones go for it! But seeing that your car is a 95, im sure the struts arent in the best condition!

What do you mean? I mean any car can blow struts especially when lowered cut springs or not. It won't blow differently with cut springs then it would with H&Rs though, not sure what you mean though.

That's one thing I've always done though is use new struts/shocks as well as bushings when I put springs on a car, even cut. KYB AGX's are cheap and adjustable, hell even GR2's are dirt cheap and at least better then OEM older struts.

Same here. Fortunately for me, I can lower my car by diagnostics. $2000 for a lowering module is a bit ridiculous.

To the OP, do it right the first time. If you cheap out, you'll just be wasting money and will never be happy.

Depends how you cheap out. eBay coilovers isn't that bad of an idea because you can buy Eibach springs to go on them and you just saved yourself a few hundred bucks.

To me suspension is in three groups.

You have really shitty cars with eBay coilovers and stock everything else, it rides like SHIT, it handles like death, it's truly scary. Then you have the cheap but handles well suspension of some DIY and mis matched items that make up a very nice setup, basic Tein coilovers and all that fit in with this group, then you have the true baller stuff like Ohlins and what not