i want lower!!!!!!!!!!!

[cardesignz]

Save your money and buy a decent full coilover setup and some nice camber kits (I highly advise staying away from Skunk2).

If you want to go low, stay away from the cheap springs on stock shocks... that's just retarded. Also, stock length shocks are too tall to be slammed on anyway, unless you have something like a Koni and Ground Control setup with extended top hats (probably the highest rated setup of all time).

I'm running some retardedly low H&R full coilovers. The upper control arms bottoming out is getting old though (front AND rear)... and only having 2 inches of ground clearance with 17's and scraping the pavement with 14's is rather ridiculous (especially when the camber is even corrected as much as possible - front is corrected down to -2.4 deg with a 3 deg kit maxed out... and the rear is tucking tire with 0 deg of camber).

If you must go low... quality parts, camber kits, and alignments are key to proper handling and keeping some tires on your car. Save your money and do it right the first time. Suspension is more than looking cool. Your car will look like and drive like crap if you do it wrong.