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    It looks remarkably like a new civic SI.

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    Kias are such low quality, poorly built pieces of garbage.


    I predict that this will not go well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm>usdm View Post
    Kias are such low quality, poorly built pieces of garbage.


    I predict that this will not go well.
    I predict you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    I predict you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about.
    X2 I have actually been impressed with the Kia Spectra EX, I bet that engine would woop the shit out of your integra if both were built to a fair race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5speed View Post
    X2 I have actually been impressed with the Kia Spectra EX, I bet that engine would woop the shit out of your integra if both were built to a fair race.

    Nearly anything can be "built" to be quick. But until someone chooses to build one, its 138hp and 136 ft lb will not be enough to "woop the shit" out of my integra.lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm>usdm View Post
    Nearly anything can be "built" to be quick. But until someone chooses to build one, its 138hp and 136 ft lb will not be enough to "woop the shit" out of my integra.lol
    ... unless it is a type R, "your integra" had about those same numbers - when it was new.

    I applaud Kia stepping into this area of racing, i have a feeling they'll surprise quite a few people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm>usdm View Post
    Nearly anything can be "built" to be quick. But until someone chooses to build one, its 138hp and 136 ft lb will not be enough to "woop the shit" out of my integra.lol
    It's Koni Challenge, they are FAR from "built." I PROMISE it would rape your Integra lol.

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    Haha I never said anything about my car being as quick as the Kia thats being built for the Koni Challange! Hell I know it would rape me in every apect.


    I was referring to 5speed's coment about how a Kia Spectra EX would out run me if it was built to a make a good race. I took this as just being a kind of street car build, not a damn race car. All Im saying that is that until people decide to start really modifiying them, then I dont have to worry about a Kia pulling up next to me on the streets and blowing my doors off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    I predict you're wrong and don't know what you're talking about.

    Lol.

    I just know that my sister has a kia. optima I believe. It only has like 40,000 miles on it and the thing is falling apart. Interior trim pieces are chipping left and right, the steering wheel has damn near holes in it from where you place hands. The motor feels sooo underpowered for what I would expect from a v6. I cant even imagine what the 4 cylinder model feels like.
    Also, my relatives bought a kia. Some small SUV; dont know what model exactly. They have the same complaints. Underpowered, and poor quality.


    Just havent seen or heard a single good thing about them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm>usdm View Post
    Lol.

    I just know that my sister has a kia. optima I believe. It only has like 40,000 miles on it and the thing is falling apart. Interior trim pieces are chipping left and right, the steering wheel has damn near holes in it from where you place hands. The motor feels sooo underpowered for what I would expect from a v6. I cant even imagine what the 4 cylinder model feels like.
    Also, my relatives bought a kia. Some small SUV; dont know what model exactly. They have the same complaints. Underpowered, and poor quality.

    Just havent seen or heard a single good thing about them.
    I wanted to see what your response was before i had input.

    You are looking at this as out of the box racing. The Koni is incredibly close to production based racing compared to pretty much every single other series there is but even still, modifications are allowed and more importantly, prep and r&d on behalf of the team will get this project to move on.

    I'm not saying it will win immediately but i am saying that this and a showroom Kia are not the same.

    For another more stretched out example, look at the Chevy Lacetti used by RML in the WTCC and BTCC. Over in America, it was another simple Pacific Rim import branded as a Suzuki.

    Over there, it was an over engineered piece of British perfection.

    The KIA is not built to S2000 rules but again, this is NOT a stock Kia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN View Post
    I wanted to see what your response was before i had input.

    You are looking at this as out of the box racing. The Koni is incredibly close to production based racing compared to pretty much every single other series there is but even still, modifications are allowed and more importantly, prep and r&d on behalf of the team will get this project to move on.

    I'm not saying it will win immediately but i am saying that this and a showroom Kia are not the same.

    For another more stretched out example, look at the Chevy Lacetti used by RML in the WTCC and BTCC. Over in America, it was another simple Pacific Rim import branded as a Suzuki.

    Over there, it was an over engineered piece of British perfection.

    The KIA is not built to S2000 rules but again, this is NOT a stock Kia.


    Yeah, I dont know much about the series at all, but I do believe that if a good bit of modification is allowed (which I indeed initially didnt assume was the case) then Kia will learn alot. I would like to see the experience they gain through all of the R&D that naturally comes with racing carry over on to the street some time soon.

    I honestly dont see Kia becoming a well respected name in the motorsports world though, atleast not anytime soon. But I do believe that they are heading the right direction in terms of learning how to build an all around better car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm>usdm View Post
    Lol.

    I just know that my sister has a kia. optima I believe. It only has like 40,000 miles on it and the thing is falling apart. Interior trim pieces are chipping left and right, the steering wheel has damn near holes in it from where you place hands. The motor feels sooo underpowered for what I would expect from a v6. I cant even imagine what the 4 cylinder model feels like.
    Also, my relatives bought a kia. Some small SUV; dont know what model exactly. They have the same complaints. Underpowered, and poor quality.


    Just havent seen or heard a single good thing about them.
    What year models? Kia stepped up their game big time back around 2006. Ive said this in countless other forums that anything before 2006 that ive seen sucks. Anything 2006 and up are pretty damn good, I dont know how they stepped it up so quickly but they did! You gotta remember that Kia though its Hyundai is still a relatively new company. They dont have all the years experiance as the Big Three of Japan. Koreans are just now getting closer to some great potential.

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    It does look good for an economy car. Why? Because Kia's head designer is from Volkswagen Group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5speed View Post
    What year models? Kia stepped up their game big time back around 2006. Ive said this in countless other forums that anything before 2006 that ive seen sucks. Anything 2006 and up are pretty damn good, I dont know how they stepped it up so quickly but they did! You gotta remember that Kia though its Hyundai is still a relatively new company. They dont have all the years experiance as the Big Three of Japan. Koreans are just now getting closer to some great potential.

    I believe that they were both pre-06 models.

    So I guess thats all it is


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    Quote Originally Posted by josh green View Post
    It looks remarkably like a new civic SI.
    I keep saying that this is what the Civic should've looked like.

    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN View Post
    With anything related to this type of racing, the manufacture is responsible for funds.

    It is who they chose to build and run the cars that matters. In this case, it is Kinetic Group.
    I just think it's interesting that Kia of all companies is getting into a racing program. First time for everything, I guess!

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh green View Post
    It looks remarkably like a new civic SI.
    I thought this the first time I saw one.
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