autocross car?

[WTF?]

ok so i have been thinking of building a car that i can drive day to day but still do decent in autocross events and i wanted your opinion on what car is good start i have only done 2 autocross events and absoulutly loved both and now im looking at buying another car something thats better and gas but can handle decently so im coming to you guys for advice even tho i think the miata is probaly going to be the most pointed out but i wanted to see from the gurus what else is out there that is cheap


Let the discussion bein....

[99hatch]

CRX with all the sway bars and everything suspension wise. Just a suggestion.

[eg mike]

Honda

[slostang]

88-91 civic.

/thread.

[SampaGuy]

Look at the results from the last nationals. Make a list of cars from the -S, -ST, -SP, or whatever else classes that you like/fit your budget to research and compare.

[PURP]

get a 87 and older CRX.. those cars are beast on the handling aspect. light, good on gas... That's what I would get...

[Sammich]

S2000...THOSE AND THE YARIS ARE SOME HARDCORE FUN VEHICLES

[WTF?]

Honda

elberate please

[WTF?]

how about the 93+ 4 door civics

[WTF?]

Look at the results from the last nationals. Make a list of cars from the -S, -ST, -SP, or whatever else classes that you like/fit your budget to research and compare.

good idea never thought of that going to do it right now

[F8d2Blk]

91 civic si, want to buy mine?

[87 Turbo II]

Miata
Mx3
CRX
Mazdaspeed Protege
Mr2 (first gen)

[slostang]

how about the 93+ 4 door civics

i had a 95 sedan that i autocrossed once. way too much body roll and understeer for my taste. it was a fun car overall but slightly unpredictable at times.

[JITB]

sohc, or dohc pref the dohc.. you can always throw a dohc head on a sohc.

Or hell even throw a stratus 2.4 in one..for chump change.
cheap to fix tons of aftermarket, cheap to buy.

[BB1_Luda]

2000-2001 Prelude Type SH.

Good DD and good in the corners.

[Doppelgänger]

The first gen Neon (ACR or R/T if you can get one) is actually a VERY good car.

It also depends on what you want to do to the car. Like a CRX..yeah, it can be a good ST car..but let's say you want to boost it or do other mods that ST might not allow, and you'll quickly be in SSM.

Hop over to www.soloatlanta.com and look through the results lists to see what everyone is using, also go through the rulebook and see what is and is not allowed.

[NewGen33]

E30/E36 BMW

[nreggie454]

Miata, Mini, etc. Think "nimble" cars, and those are good for AX.

Or, whatever car you get, get it STOCK. Then race at least one full season with it completely STOCK so you can establish your fundamentals. Many mods only hide bad driving techniques and can start bad habits if good ones weren't already in place. Ride or co-drive with experienced drivers and ask as many questions as you can to learn proper habits. When you feel you and your car have about the same limits, buy mods ONE AT A TIME. Learn the new limits of your car and continue this process SLOWLY. Also, be well versed with the rule book so that the mods you do get will allow you to be in a class in which you will still be competitive.

Do not use a swapped Honda because this will put you in SM or SM2, which is a class for people with DEEP pockets, high HP and highly prepped cars.

[WTF?]

Miata, Mini, etc. Think "nimble" cars, and those are good for AX.

Or, whatever car you get, get it STOCK. Then race at least one full season with it completely STOCK so you can establish your fundamentals. Many mods only hide bad driving techniques and can start bad habits if good ones weren't already in place. Ride or co-drive with experienced drivers and ask as many questions as you can to learn proper habits. When you feel you and your car have about the same limits, buy mods ONE AT A TIME. Learn the new limits of your car and continue this process SLOWLY. Also, be well versed with the rule book so that the mods you do get will allow you to be in a class in which you will still be competitive.

Do not use a swapped Honda because this will put you in SM or SM2, which is a class for people with DEEP pockets, high HP and highly prepped cars.

nicly said and good information thank you and yes i want something 100% stock so i can learn the car and my bad habbits

[WTF?]

E30/E36 BMW

ya i woudnt mine and older e30 hell i almost traded my srt for one but the timing belt broke on it before i could come look at it

[WTF?]

The first gen Neon (ACR or R/T if you can get one) is actually a VERY good car.

It also depends on what you want to do to the car. Like a CRX..yeah, it can be a good ST car..but let's say you want to boost it or do other mods that ST might not allow, and you'll quickly be in SSM.

Hop over to www.soloatlanta.com and look through the results lists to see what everyone is using, also go through the rulebook and see what is and is not allowed.

good idea im going to look at both right now i have been reading all the rules and what not for the last hour or so

[WTF?]

i had a 95 sedan that i autocrossed once. way too much body roll and understeer for my taste. it was a fun car overall but slightly unpredictable at times.

thats what i was thinking alot of body roll and heavy for a honda but wasnt sure and was curious cause there was alot of cheap ones on craigslist

[WTF?]

91 civic si, want to buy mine?

how much?

[cornercarver78]

1st gen mr2. I'm looking for one, and if you buy it out from under me i'll stab you in the neck with a fork.

[WTF?]

^ LOL..............

[Cool Cat Racing]

2000-2001 Prelude Type SH.

Good DD and good in the corners.

That makes me laugh, apparently you don't autocross much if you think thats a good car. I'm with everyone else, CRX's are hard to beat and so are the neons. You can do all kinds of things, they both do quite well in ST classes, and they're cheap with good gas mileage.

[Doppelgänger]

Do not use a swapped Honda because this will put you in SM or SM2, which is a class for people with DEEP pockets, high HP and highly prepped cars.

SM2 is now SSM.... where I reside

You can come play in SSM....

[Cool Cat Racing]

The sad thing is that or 400whp miata is barely out of SSM, just because of a few small things I removed. And if you do end up building an SSM car you'll have to go pretty far to be competitive even at the ATL events, don't even think about a national event. At Nationals even SP cars are mostly dedicated cars.

[koukis14]

Miata

[JITB]

That makes me laugh, apparently you don't autocross much if you think thats a good car. I'm with everyone else, CRX's are hard to beat and so are the neons. You can do all kinds of things, they both do quite well in ST classes, and they're cheap with good gas mileage.

i suspected the srt4 owner to be all up on the 1st gen neon autox...

[SiRed94]

85-87 Crx Si or 86-87 Civic Si

[WTF?]

i suspected the srt4 owner to be all up on the 1st gen neon autox...

believe it or not but i dont know shit about 1st gen neons i just found out a couple of months go they made a 1st gen acr but ya im looking into 1st gen mr2's and neons also some crx's and ef hatches anyone know how the ef sedans do i had one and loved it but had to sell due to finacial issues but anyways the plan with the car is to use it as a dd (but im still keeping the srt) and use it in local or slightly local auto x events so i wont be going national or atleast not for awhile also couple of more questions 1. what would you gurus recomend would do better 2 door or 4 door neon? 2. put these cars in order what you think is best to worst #1 being the best 1st gen mr2, 1st gen neon 4dr or 2dr, ef hatch, crx, eg coupe, eg hatch, miata

[dakilla4ever]

I would personally go the same route I've already gone and start with a 4th gen prelude. But it takes someone that's used to a heavy car to learn how to control and maneuver it. My prelude handles great and is decent on gas mileage. I got used to my car street racing and driving it on a daily basis. Loved the first one so much that I bought 2 more after I totaled the first one (Many lessons learned there). It all depends on what exactly you are looking for and what are you doing it for. I honestly go out there to represent for all the other ludes out there by getting my best times and placing as high as possible by the end of the season. But for someone else I'd co-sign with everyone else and say miata, 88-91 crx, 88-91 civic, any mr2, 88-91 prelude(very nimble), & 90-01 Integras. Look for anything light weight in stock trim but comes with a decently powerful motor and "prelude like" suspension.

[TheGrillMan]

e30\e36

[JITB]

believe it or not but i dont know shit about 1st gen neons i just found out a couple of months go they made a 1st gen acr but ya im looking into 1st gen mr2's and neons also some crx's and ef hatches anyone know how the ef sedans do i had one and loved it but had to sell due to finacial issues but anyways the plan with the car is to use it as a dd (but im still keeping the srt) and use it in local or slightly local auto x events so i wont be going national or atleast not for awhile also couple of more questions 1. what would you gurus recomend would do better 2 door or 4 door neon? 2. put these cars in order what you think is best to worst #1 being the best 1st gen mr2, 1st gen neon 4dr or 2dr, ef hatch, crx, eg coupe, eg hatch, miata

I can only speak on the neon and its history of being auto X cars, the coupe would be the best suggestion weight wise. The R/t would be a gem to find, but i havent seen one of those in years. Id look for a highline coupe dohc, sohc wouldnt be too bad either like i said before, b/c u can always upgrade. But the Acr was a sure sleeper that slid under the radar back when people were buying kits for hondas...dodge released a race ready neon, with no power options for cheap with koni shocks.

It would be cool to see a built 1st gen, i owned one myself, and a buddy of mine had one, adn was die hard. when i start to see his transform performance wise and with his limited budget, i was impressed. And they are inexpensive to build, compared to the others, and easily available parts to bum from later year neons esp the srt4.

[WTF?]

ya i think im going to go with the 1st gen neon

[JITB]

ya i think im going to go with the 1st gen neon

you must of started to do some reading on neons.org?

[EJ25RUN]

Mini.

[Thighs]

Run a stock or street tire class.

STX- RX8 or E36 328is
STU- STi or Evo
STS- Civic EF

DONT GET A E30!!!!!!!!! im telling you that is the worst autocross car you will ever own

[matthewAPM]

Run a stock or street tire class.

STX- RX8 or E36 328is
STU- STi or Evo
STS- Civic EF

DONT GET A E30!!!!!!!!! im telling you that is the worst autocross car you will ever own


Sorry, I was thinking I was logged in but jesse was still on. lol