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    ^ gotcha i think i made my decsion on either a 1sr gen neon or ef hatch and possibly if i find one i like a 1st gen mr2


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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    you must of started to do some reading on neons.org?
    yup did a little last night


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    neon? uhhh GL with that.

    EF or miata will be your best bet.
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    why not a neon? im not bashing just looking for some good info from the gurus who know what there talking about


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    Well if your looking for something competitive, neon is not where your going to want to go. Pick a car that is dominate in its class at nationals. First thing is what are you looking to spend? This will determine what class and car your going to want to get.
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    I think a Neon can be a pretty decent autocross car. I know of one Neon up here that is well set up and well driven that is very competitive. Now, one isn't likely to be competitive nationally in a first gen Neon, but that doesn't preclude the car from being both competitive and fun regionally.

    Something to think about MatthewAPM...there are lots of people who want to get into autocross, or track events, just to have fun. I'm not saying that winning an event isn't fun, but it isn't the end all and be all. Also, the OP has mentioned wanting to find a stock car to run in a stock class initially.

    The suggestions that have been made most thus far, Miata, EF Civic, and first gen Neon, are pretty decent. Early Miatas *can* be found fairly cheap, parts are widely available and the cars are a blast to drive. Same goes for an EF Civic. And, for someone already familiar with Neons a first gen Neon is pretty cheap to buy, mod and maintain.

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    With the neon you could do three wheel turns!
    zoom-zoom-zoom

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    or an evo
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF?
    thats what i was thinking alot of body roll and heavy for a honda but wasnt sure and was curious cause there was alot of cheap ones on craigslist
    lol! what does the chassis have to do with body roll?

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    ^Nice vid.

    RWD is 100x more fun IMO. Understeering when you floor it out of a turn must be the gayest feeling that exists in driving overall. I started autocrossing with a 1.8t Jetta so I know. For cheap you could go with a 1st gen miata in STS, a 2nd gen miata in C Stock like me, or a 2nd gen NA MR2 in E Stock.

    If you want to stick to FWD you can go with a CRX in STS (probably won't keep up with all the miatas there though) or a EF civic hatch in ST (these dominate).

    Remember that for the ST classes you will be allowed to have more mods but will run street tires. Stock class will not necessarily be cheaper, you will have less mods but will have to run slick tires if you want to be competitive, also requiring you to bring an extra set of wheels to every event which might be a hassle.

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    Even a RWD car can understeer if you floor it out of a turn. My EG was setup well enough I could floor it on exit far earlier then in my Miata.

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    I'd do a Honda, Miata or an E30. All fun cars, just depends what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    Even a RWD car can understeer if you floor it out of a turn. My EG was setup well enough I could floor it on exit far earlier then in my Miata.


    Ya well mine doesnt (probably because of the shitty tires i have on )

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    Yeah I mean it all depends on setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    HOLY BALLS!!! That thing flies!!!

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    IF you go with an EF, make sure to buy one thats a Si trim stock, they come with rear sway bars from the factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plv
    Understeering when you floor it out of a turn must be the gayest feeling that exists in driving overall.
    Very true. That feeling makes you hate your car.

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    91 sedan....
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    ^LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    I beat everyone I raced dwn back roads with tonz a curves in my 91 sedan. It was on KYB GR2's, Skunk2 springs and strut bars with Falken Azenis 205/50/15 tires. no one could stay with me... until we got to a straight away LOL
    my sedan had no roll at all either, any 88-91 civic should be great with just a few parts.
    ive had 3 of em now and they have all been great
    You do not know what you are talking about and beating "everyone" doesn't mean any of them were halfway decent drivers.

    Also, a Civic sedan with those mods would not be very competitive in autocross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    I beat everyone I raced dwn back roads with tonz a curves in my 91 sedan. It was on KYB GR2's, Skunk2 springs and strut bars with Falken Azenis 205/50/15 tires. no one could stay with me... until we got to a straight away LOL
    my sedan had no roll at all either, any 88-91 civic should be great with just a few parts.
    ive had 3 of em now and they have all been great
    I'll race you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    I beat everyone I raced dwn back roads with tonz a curves in my 91 sedan. It was on KYB GR2's, Skunk2 springs and strut bars with Falken Azenis 205/50/15 tires. no one could stay with me... until we got to a straight away LOL
    my sedan had no roll at all either, any 88-91 civic should be great with just a few parts.
    ive had 3 of em now and they have all been great
    Obviously you and your friends have no idea what a real well-handling car feels like
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
    Obviously you and your friends have no idea what a real well-handling car feels like
    I agree with you for once.

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    never auto x b4... but my foe doe was teh sht... and i knw my mods werent sht

    guess im just a good driver n if yall ever do wanna race, im in newnan ga n i knw sum good roads

    and considering my "friend" had about 2000 in suspension in his 93 hatch, and i had like..oh idk, 500 bux in suspension i guess i was the better driver...... i would race ne of you ppl tho.. in corners, not straights cuz my car slooooow as fuck

    oh, and i said 88-91 civic with suspension mods would be good.. foe doe er hatch

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    oh n btw.. i have never got to drive an EVO IX MR, or an NSX, or a GTR, or a Exige S, or Z06 or a fukn 911 gt3..

    im just a poor white boy who likes driving very fast dwn back roads in his lil POS civics

    i would love to drive said cars tho!!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    never auto x b4... but my foe doe was teh sht... and i knw my mods werent sht

    guess im just a good driver n if yall ever do wanna race, im in newnan ga n i knw sum good roads

    and considering my "friend" had about 2000 in suspension in his 93 hatch, and i had like..oh idk, 500 bux in suspension i guess i was the better driver...... i would race ne of you ppl tho.. in corners, not straights cuz my car slooooow as fuck

    oh, and i said 88-91 civic with suspension mods would be good.. foe doe er hatch
    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    oh n btw.. i have never got to drive an EVO IX MR, or an NSX, or a GTR, or a Exige S, or Z06 or a fukn 911 gt3..

    im just a poor white boy who likes racing dwn back roads in his lil POS civics

    i would love to drive said cars tho!!! lol
    Yeah Newnan sure has some curvy roads with severe elevation changes huh lol!

    Just about any light-weight car with good shocks and tires is going to handle well and typically one with less power and a average driver is going to be quicker than one with more power and an unexperienced driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Yeah Newnan sure has some curvy roads with severe elevation changes huh lol!

    Just about any light-weight car with good shocks and tires is going to handle well and typically one with less power and a average driver is going to be quicker than one with more power and an unexperienced driver.
    well i live in newnan, senoia and out has good roads.
    and if ya wanna talk auto x, look up how many times DSE has won auto x comps with they quad link camaro

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    well i live in newnan, senoia and out has good roads.
    and if ya wanna talk auto x, look up how many times DSE has won auto x comps with they quad link camaro
    Several of the people in this thread have been running these roads for years, me personally since '95 lol...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UOGj4O2zGY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJBGQinPT6k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dVLdN4JIHw

    I've seen the Camaro run a lot, hell Carrol Shelby's leaf spring setup on the Daytona coupe beat Ferrari so many times in '64-65 lol!

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    looks like very fun roads... ive been to TN up in the mountains a few times

    never been with ne here on IA for they mounatin runs tho.. id like to go tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    never auto x b4... but my foe doe was teh sht... and i knw my mods werent sht

    guess im just a good driver n if yall ever do wanna race, im in newnan ga n i knw sum good roads

    and considering my "friend" had about 2000 in suspension in his 93 hatch, and i had like..oh idk, 500 bux in suspension i guess i was the better driver...... i would race ne of you ppl tho.. in corners, not straights cuz my car slooooow as fuck

    oh, and i said 88-91 civic with suspension mods would be good.. foe doe er hatch

    So put your money where your mouth is and come to the atuoX this Sunday at Turner Field.... www.soloatlanta.com

    How much money you have in suspension doesn't matter if you don't know how to utilize it. It's also about not being a retard on the street
    Time-to-time , i'd wax your ass at autoX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
    So put your money where your mouth is and come to the atuoX this Sunday at Turner Field.... www.soloatlanta.com

    How much money you have in suspension doesn't matter if you don't know how to utilize it. It's also about not being a retard on the street
    Time-to-time , i'd wax your ass at autoX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    looks like very fun roads... ive been to TN up in the mountains a few times

    never been with ne here on IA for they mounatin runs tho.. id like to go tho
    I don't organize them anymore, too much BS and even though I'm not liable for anything I refuse to put the experienced drivers into situations like that. Small group of trusting drivers, 2-5 cars [without obnoxious exhausts], at midnight is the only way to go these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    looks like very fun roads... ive been to TN up in the mountains a few times

    never been with ne here on IA for they mounatin runs tho.. id like to go tho
    Sounds good. I will also like to put $500 cash on the run. Im sorry but there is no way your going to keep up. I'll run on street tires...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
    So put your money where your mouth is and come to the atuoX this Sunday at Turner Field.... www.soloatlanta.com

    How much money you have in suspension doesn't matter if you don't know how to utilize it. It's also about not being a retard on the street
    Time-to-time , i'd wax your ass at autoX.
    LOL i has no cash...
    n like i said, ive never auto x b4
    I think it be very fun tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    I don't organize them anymore, too much BS and even though I'm not liable for anything I refuse to put the experienced drivers into situations like that. Small group of trusting drivers, 2-5 cars [without obnoxious exhausts], at midnight is the only way to go these days.
    hell yeah.. its what i used to do with my friends out here

    now they not into it nemore.... so i dnt really have ne fun nemore

    id like ta go with ya n a few a ya ppl sumtime.. i has no loud exhaust
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewAPM
    Sounds good. I will also like to put $500 cash on the run. Im sorry but there is no way your going to keep up. I'll run on street tires...
    thats crazy talk... for one, i dnt knw how ya drive, and ya dnt knw how i drive... so we cnt really say who would beat who. but i would love to take on sum roads together n have fun n see who gets who tho.. my car has NO motor work, just a 90 d15b hatch

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    I hope you drive better than you type, i can barely read your posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by green91
    I hope you drive better than you type, i can barely read your posts
    My eyes are bleeding. Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox would show it all as one solid red line lol!

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    hmm.. this is IA, not getting a grade on wtf i type. LOL its computer talk

    but yes... i drive better than i type lol

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