^ gotcha i think i made my decsion on either a 1sr gen neon or ef hatch and possibly if i find one i like a 1st gen mr2
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^ gotcha i think i made my decsion on either a 1sr gen neon or ef hatch and possibly if i find one i like a 1st gen mr2
yup did a little last night :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JITB
neon? uhhh GL with that.
EF or miata will be your best bet.
why not a neon? im not bashing just looking for some good info from the gurus who know what there talking about
Well if your looking for something competitive, neon is not where your going to want to go. Pick a car that is dominate in its class at nationals. First thing is what are you looking to spend? This will determine what class and car your going to want to get.
I think a Neon can be a pretty decent autocross car. I know of one Neon up here that is well set up and well driven that is very competitive. Now, one isn't likely to be competitive nationally in a first gen Neon, but that doesn't preclude the car from being both competitive and fun regionally.
Something to think about MatthewAPM...there are lots of people who want to get into autocross, or track events, just to have fun. I'm not saying that winning an event isn't fun, but it isn't the end all and be all. Also, the OP has mentioned wanting to find a stock car to run in a stock class initially.
The suggestions that have been made most thus far, Miata, EF Civic, and first gen Neon, are pretty decent. Early Miatas *can* be found fairly cheap, parts are widely available and the cars are a blast to drive. Same goes for an EF Civic. And, for someone already familiar with Neons a first gen Neon is pretty cheap to buy, mod and maintain.
With the neon you could do three wheel turns!
or an evo :eek:
lol! what does the chassis have to do with body roll?Quote:
Originally Posted by WTF?
Mmm...
http://img.youtube.com/vi/8iy4YDe8hW...pNbIWWbXtiM24=
e30 M3 Autocross
^Nice vid.
RWD is 100x more fun IMO. Understeering when you floor it out of a turn must be the gayest feeling that exists in driving overall. I started autocrossing with a 1.8t Jetta so I know. For cheap you could go with a 1st gen miata in STS, a 2nd gen miata in C Stock like me, or a 2nd gen NA MR2 in E Stock.
If you want to stick to FWD you can go with a CRX in STS (probably won't keep up with all the miatas there though) or a EF civic hatch in ST (these dominate).
Remember that for the ST classes you will be allowed to have more mods but will run street tires. Stock class will not necessarily be cheaper, you will have less mods but will have to run slick tires if you want to be competitive, also requiring you to bring an extra set of wheels to every event which might be a hassle.
Even a RWD car can understeer if you floor it out of a turn. My EG was setup well enough I could floor it on exit far earlier then in my Miata.
I'd do a Honda, Miata or an E30. All fun cars, just depends what you want.
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Originally Posted by simontibbett
Ya well mine doesnt (probably because of the shitty tires i have on :D )
Yeah I mean it all depends on setup.
HOLY BALLS!!! That thing flies!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by speedminded
IF you go with an EF, make sure to buy one thats a Si trim stock, they come with rear sway bars from the factory.
Very true. That feeling makes you hate your car.Quote:
Originally Posted by plv
91 sedan.... :no:
^LMAO
You do not know what you are talking about and beating "everyone" doesn't mean any of them were halfway decent drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeysjdm
Also, a Civic sedan with those mods would not be very competitive in autocross.
I'll race you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeysjdm
LOL :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
Obviously you and your friends have no idea what a real well-handling car feels like :no: :lmfao:Quote:
Originally Posted by jeysjdm
I agree with you for once. :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
never auto x b4... but my foe doe was teh sht... and i knw my mods werent sht
guess im just a good driver n if yall ever do wanna race, im in newnan ga n i knw sum good roads
and considering my "friend" had about 2000 in suspension in his 93 hatch, and i had like..oh idk, 500 bux in suspension i guess i was the better driver...... i would race ne of you ppl tho.. in corners, not straights cuz my car slooooow as fuck :lmfao:
oh, and i said 88-91 civic with suspension mods would be good.. foe doe er hatch
oh n btw.. i have never got to drive an EVO IX MR, or an NSX, or a GTR, or a Exige S, or Z06 or a fukn 911 gt3..
im just a poor white boy who likes driving very fast dwn back roads in his lil POS civics
i would love to drive said cars tho!!! lol
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Originally Posted by jeysjdm
Yeah Newnan sure has some curvy roads with severe elevation changes huh lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by jeysjdm
Just about any light-weight car with good shocks and tires is going to handle well and typically one with less power and a average driver is going to be quicker than one with more power and an unexperienced driver.
well i live in newnan, senoia and out has good roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by speedminded
and if ya wanna talk auto x, look up how many times DSE has won auto x comps with they quad link camaro
Several of the people in this thread have been running these roads for years, me personally since '95 lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by jeysjdm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UOGj4O2zGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJBGQinPT6k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dVLdN4JIHw
I've seen the Camaro run a lot, hell Carrol Shelby's leaf spring setup on the Daytona coupe beat Ferrari so many times in '64-65 lol!
looks like very fun roads... ive been to TN up in the mountains a few times
never been with ne here on IA for they mounatin runs tho.. id like to go tho
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Originally Posted by jeysjdm
So put your money where your mouth is and come to the atuoX this Sunday at Turner Field.... www.soloatlanta.com
How much money you have in suspension doesn't matter if you don't know how to utilize it. It's also about not being a retard on the street :goodjob:
Time-to-time , i'd wax your ass at autoX.
Drift Tracker Auto-X? lulz!Quote:
Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
I don't organize them anymore, too much BS and even though I'm not liable for anything I refuse to put the experienced drivers into situations like that. Small group of trusting drivers, 2-5 cars [without obnoxious exhausts], at midnight is the only way to go these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeysjdm
Sounds good. I will also like to put $500 cash on the run. Im sorry but there is no way your going to keep up. I'll run on street tires...Quote:
Originally Posted by jeysjdm
LOL i has no cash...Quote:
Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
n like i said, ive never auto x b4
I think it be very fun tho
hell yeah.. its what i used to do with my friends out hereQuote:
Originally Posted by speedminded
now they not into it nemore.... :no: so i dnt really have ne fun nemore
id like ta go with ya n a few a ya ppl sumtime.. i has no loud exhaust
thats crazy talk... for one, i dnt knw how ya drive, and ya dnt knw how i drive... so we cnt really say who would beat who. but i would love to take on sum roads together n have fun n see who gets who tho.. my car has NO motor work, just a 90 d15b hatchQuote:
Originally Posted by matthewAPM
I hope you drive better than you type, i can barely read your posts
My eyes are bleeding. Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox would show it all as one solid red line lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by green91
hmm.. this is IA, not getting a grade on wtf i type. LOL its computer talk
but yes... i drive better than i type lol