FIA announces 2010 F1 entries: Ferrari Still on it but says conditions must be meet.

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FIA announces 2010 F1 entry list

By Jonathan Noble Friday, June 12th 2009, 09:51 GMT

Formula 1 startWorld championship leaders Brawn, plus former champions McLaren and Renault are among the teams that have been told to lift the conditions on their entry to the 2010 championship by June 19 or risk being left off the grid.

After days of intense speculation about which teams would comprise the make up for the 2010 championship, the FIA announced that of the current teams only Ferrari, Red Bull Racing, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Williams and Force India have been granted entries.

It means that Brawn, McLaren, Renault, BMW Sauber and Toyota have all been sidelined for now - pointing towards further frantic efforts to try and find a solution to the row over cost cuts.

In a statement issued by the FIA, it said: "These five teams have submitted conditional entries.The FIA has invited them to lift those conditions following further discussions to be concluded not later than close of business on Friday 19 June."

The inclusion of Ferrari and the two Red Bull teams is also a bone of contention, with the outfits likely to claim that they could only be entered if the conditions attached to their applications to race were met.

The FIA, however, believes the teams committed several years ago when they signed deals with the governing body and Formula One Management tying themselves to the sport.


The list also confirmed that three new teams had been granted an entry - Campos Grand Prix, Manor Grand Prix and Team US F1.

Should any of the five current teams not make the cut, then the FIA is evaluating further entries being added.

AUTOSPORT understands there are three or four other teams who are close to being granted entries, and dialogue is still ongoing.

Campos Grand Prix is being run by former grand prix driver Adrian Campos, with Team US F1 headed by Ken Anderson and Peter Windsor.

AUTOSPORT understands the new Manor Grand Prix team is headed by F3 team boss John Booth and former grand prix team owner Nick Wirth.

Team Constructor
Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro Ferrari
Scuderia Toro Rosso STR TBA
Red Bull Racing Red Bull Racing TTBA
At&T Williams Williams Toyota
Force India F1 Team Force India Mercedes
Campos Grand Prix Campos Cosworth
Manor Grand Prix Manor Cosworth
Team US F1 Team US F1 Cosworth
Vodafone McLaren Mercedes* McLaren Mercedes
BMW Sauber F1 Team* BMW Sauber
Renault F1 Team* Renault
Panasonic Toyota Racing* Toyota
Brawn GP Formula One Team* Brawn TBA

* These five teams have submitted conditional entries.The FIA has invited them to lift those conditions following further discussions to be concluded not later than close of business on Friday 19 June.

The maximum number of cars permitted to enter the 2010 Championship has been increased to 26, two being entered by each competitor. Pending completion of the discussions referred to above, further due diligence is currently taking place on other potential entries.

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Maranello 12 May 2009 – Ferrari’s Board of Directors, chaired by Luca di Montezemolo, today analysed the first quarter results for 2009. Despite the current international economic climate, which has hit the automotive sector in particular, Ferrari’s figures were in line with the record levels reached in 2008.

Turnover for the first three months was 441 million euro compared to 455.7 million euro over the same period in 2008. The first quarter closed with a trading profit of 54 million euro compared to last year’s 59 million euro.

These results reflect the introduction of new models, in particular the success of the Ferrari California and the Scuderia Spider 16M, the constant growth in activities linked to the brand (e-commerce, licensing, merchandising and retail) and the company’s continuing efforts to maximise efficiency.

The Board of Directors also examined developments related to recent decisions taken by the Federation Internationale de l’Automobile during an extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council on 29 April 2009. Although this meeting was originally called only to examine a disciplinary matter, the decisions taken mean that, for the first time ever in Formula 1, the 2010 season will see the introduction of two different sets of regulations based on arbitrary technical rules and economic parameters.

The Board considers that if this is the regulatory framework for Formula 1 in the future, then the reasons underlying Ferrari’s uninterrupted participation in the World Championship over the last 60 years – the only constructor to have taken part ever since its inception in 1950 – would come to a close.

The Board also expressed its disappointment about the methods adopted by the FIA in taking decisions of such a serious nature and its refusal to effectively reach an understanding with constructors and teams. The rules of governance that have contributed to the development of Formula 1 over the last 25 years have been disregarded, as have the binding contractual obligations between Ferrari and the FIA itself regarding the stability of the regulations. The same rules for all teams, stability of regulations, the continuity of the FOTA’s endeavours to methodically and progressively reduce costs, and governance of Formula 1 are the priorities for the future. If these indispensable principles are not respected and if the regulations adopted for 2010 will not change, then Ferrari does not intend to enter its cars in the next Formula 1 World Championship.

Ferrari trusts that its many fans worldwide will understand that this difficult decision is coherent with the Scuderia’s approach to motor sport and to Formula 1 in particular, always seeking to promote its sporting and technical values. The Chairman of the Board of Directors was mandated to evaluate the most suitable ways and methods to protect the company’s interests.

[TheChosenOne]

I'm not sure I understand all the technical jargon that the FIA throws around, but all I know is that if I had a racing series and Ferrari said they were ready to call it quits, id change some shyt.

[EJ25RUN]

I stopped posting F1 news until i make my race weekend threads but this really is too important.

Ferrari is F1.

Without it, F1 will become another INDY, GP2, or whatever other open wheel series that means little to nothing.

Max needs to change this quick. The Tifosi are really the majority of F1's fans.

I realize that Luca and Max haven't gotten along and sometimes it seems that their ignorance toward each other turns bad for everyone, but this time, too much is at stack.

Losing Ferrari is a fatal blow to F1. My feelings toward the series would turn really harsh it goes through.

[TheChosenOne]

Why do they want to leave the series? I'm sure they understand the ramifications that would effect the rest of the sport, so why would they go through with it?

As a life-long spectator, I look forward to top-tier racing especially during less that favorable times such as this. With Ferrari out of the field, it just wont be the same. Just another sad story spawned by this strangled economy.

[EJ25RUN]

Why do they want to leave the series? I'm sure they understand the ramifications that would effect the rest of the sport, so why would they go through with it?

Because F1 should be the pinnacle of racing. You do whatever you have to do and spend whatever you have to in order to win. Ask Toyota if you think im kidding.

Budget caps should stay in feeder series such as GP2.

[Elbow]

^X2, F1 is the top.

[EJ25RUN]

Ten-tenths.com has reminded me of this year's Le Mans.

Luca di Montezemolo will wave the French flag (green flag) at this years Le Mans 24. Stefano Domenicali will be there as well.

Might this mean a move to sports car racing. A first for Ferrari since 1972?

As good as that sounds, Ferrari will always be a Formula 1 company. I hope this isn't ruined for 2010.

[dazn]

man, where to even begin. oh wait I got it.
FUCK MAX MOSELY.
oh right, that about sums it up really.

The new regulations are absolutely the most horrendous sets of rules I have ever heard of in my life. Right next to the the Speed World Challenge qualifying coin toss.
I understand curtailing some expenses related to Formula 1. The budgets for the teams really are just exorbitant. But dont curtail the technology. Thats the whole point of Formula 1. Give them spec engines, well, I might as well watch GP2, A1GP or even the new SuperLeague. and get rid of the KERS BS.
do I think Ferrari will pull out? Probably not, they will most likely come to some sort of agreement. They as companies are both well aware of the need for each other even though they dont really agree on anything. Like US and China, hahaha. And if for some reason they dont come to an agreement, then yes, Ferrari, I think will leave.
It would be kul to see a Ferrari P-car.

[blacknightteg]

man, where to even begin. oh wait I got it.
FUCK MAX MOSELY.
oh right, that about sums it up really.

The new regulations are absolutely the most horrendous sets of rules I have ever heard of in my life. Right next to the the Speed World Challenge qualifying coin toss.
I understand curtailing some expenses related to Formula 1. The budgets for the teams really are just exorbitant. But dont curtail the technology. Thats the whole point of Formula 1. Give them spec engines, well, I might as well watch GP2, A1GP or even the new SuperLeague. and get rid of the KERS BS.
do I think Ferrari will pull out? Probably not, they will most likely come to some sort of agreement. They as companies are both well aware of the need for each other even though they dont really agree on anything. Like US and China, hahaha. And if for some reason they dont come to an agreement, then yes, Ferrari, I think will leave.
It would be kul to see a Ferrari P-car.

yeah it definitely would be nice to see a ferrari prototype. been a long time since thats happened. lord knows they would probably bring a good amount of competition once again.

[Atlblkz06]

Watching Ferrari leave would just be unreal. That's like the US car market without GM.

Wait..

[EJ25RUN]

To the people talking about the LMP Ferrari idea.

Here's why it won't work.

They know they won't beat the diesels. Ferrari has vowed never to make a diesel engine.

So, if anything, the only way it would happen is if Scuderia Ferrari began building an Alfa Romeo badged prototype that had an Alfa Romeo JTD branded Diesel engine.

[Atlblkz06]

I'm curious - what does Ferrari have against diesels anyway? Do they believe diesels are abominations, and don't deserve to exist in the racing environment?

[EJ25RUN]

I'm curious - what does Ferrari have against diesels anyway? Do they believe diesels are abominations, and don't deserve to exist in the racing environment?

A lot of that comes from Enzo saying they belong in trucks but officially, they just don't see them as the best idea.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...ture-cars.html

Therefore, if you're not making diesel street cars, there is no sense in you making diesel race cars.

[SampaGuy]

They are bluffing its just their way to get the rules changed... I thought it was obvious.

[EJ25RUN]

They are bluffing its just their way to get the rules changed... I thought it was obvious.

With F1 politics, that does sound correct.

I think most on ten-tenths are calling it a bluff as well.

If anything, i really hope it is a bluff.

[Mike Lowrey]

Renault has joined in the mix. They officially said they will quit F1 if the rules don't change. There is too much political BS in F1. Max is trying to jam these new rules down the team's throat and banking on them not being united against him. The teams need to show they are united against Max's stupidity. I just hate to see things like this. I beleive it is damaging to the sport. Max needs to step back and look at how stupid he is......

[AE86Raptor]

Toyota is also on board to pull out if it doesn't change as well. Pretty much, if Ferrari threatens, then watch more teams threaten as well. As someone said, Ferrari is a big part of F1; no Ferrari no F1. FIA has been on the downhill since a lot of the teams pulled out including privateer teams. I wish I'd be able to see Lotus, Ford, and others come back into F1, but that's like wanting to see Toyota power the Formula Atlantic or Indy again. Not going to happen...

[EJ25RUN]

Remember, May 29 is the final sign up day before fines are given out.

Here's the latest.

Teams demand FIA ditch 2010 rules

By Jonathan Noble Sunday, May 24th 2009, 18:45 GMT


Formula 1 teams have written to FIA president Max Mosley requesting that next year's regulations are scrapped if they are to commit their future to the sport, AUTOSPORT has learned.

Although Mosley hinted on race morning at the Monaco Grand Prix that he was open to a compromise deal about plans for a £40 million budget cap, the teams have now made it clear the conditions by which they will continue to race.

In a letter signed by all teams and sent to Mosley shortly before the race, the teams demanded that the FIA ditches the planned 2010 technical and sporting regulations and reverts to the current 2009 version.

This would then be used as the starting point for framing new regulations to bring costs under control - with agreed changes like a refueling ban still expected to go ahead as planned.

As well as the rule changes, the teams want guarantees about the governance of the sport and the reestablishment of protocols, like the use of the Formula 1 Commission, to ensure there is proper framing of the rules going forward.

A FOTA source said that in exchange for the FIA agreeing to such action, the teams have promised a "willingness to commit their future to the sport." It is understood that the teams are prepared to commit not just to next year, but until 2012.

Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali confirmed the existence of the letter shortly after the Monaco Grand Prix.

"What we have asked is to go back to the rules of this year, the 2009 rules," he said. "And then see together what we can do in order to make changes for next year.

"Bear in mind that for sure the cost is something that all the teams are fully committed to work on, but the cost is something that is related to the business of the teams.

"We know what we can invest. We know what we can do, and this is something that the teams can discuss internally and decide on their own what they can afford to keep the value of F1 at the standard that we know. It is not something that we feel should be involved with somebody else."

While there has been talk of a compromise 45 million Euros budget cap in place for 2011, sources have suggested that the teams are still far apart from the FIA in agreeing a way forward.

It is understood that one suggestion being looked at is for the teams to invoke a 'Cost Control System', which will be regulated by FOTA rather than the FIA, to help bring finances under control.

When asked by AUTOSPORT if he was optimistic about a solution being found before Friday's entry deadline to the championship, Domenicali said: "I don't know really. I think the points that we have put on the table are pretty clear, and I think we raised some issues in the meeting that we had.

"It was as we said constructive, but there is an ongoing process to discuss. I am sure it will be a very important week because the entry to this championship has to be finalised by Friday. I think they will be long days."

FOTA vice chairman John Howett echoed Domenicali's reluctance to get too optimistic about a deal being easily reached.

"I think we have to wait and see," he said. "There are still some gaps. While there has been definite movement, I think we have to wait and see what the solution is and whether it is accepted or not."

Brawn chief executive officer Nick Fry said that the push by the teams about using the 2009 regulations again in 2010 was not indicative of the discussions having broken down.

"No. It is not a stalemate. It is normal negotiations. The sides have some differences of view in terms of how the regulations should look, and once one side has put a view forward, the other side responds - and so on and so forth. I would consider that to be perfectly normal.

"We are all in favour of a degree of financial responsibility. I know there is no team that is proposing a financial free for all, we all represent big companies and the economic times are not appropriate to be spending a lot of money. The only discussion is how you do it, and what the right mechanism is.

"We have a huge range of teams - teams that want to come into the championship that are small and have limited resources and coming from lower formulas; we have teams who do have a huge amount of infrastructure and we have teams like ourselves that were lucky enough to benefit from manufacturer backing but now don't have that, and teams that are still very large and enjoy manufacturer backing.

"And the issue is how you actually find a compromise that enables the little guys to have a fighting chance and the big guys to downsize their companies in a sensible period of time. And that is not easy."

FOTA members are expected to meet later this week to discuss their stance towards lodging entries by Friday's deadline, but much depends on the FIA's response to the latest demands.

[2turbo4u]

He(Max) would change his mind and go back to the 09 rules or he will be a has been.

[NewGen33]

Great just what racing needed. Why do people in high power love screwing things up.

[dazn]

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/fo...sion-7147.html

[EJ25RUN]

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/fo...sion-7147.html

Phew....i read about this yesturday.

I was worried this was to be the "Ferrari exits F1 bomb."

I feel better know.

[EJ25RUN]

FOTA teams submit F1 entries for 2010

By Pablo Elizalde Friday, May 29th 2009, 13:35 GMT


All the current Formula 1 teams have submitted their entries to the FIA for the 2010 championship, FOTA confirmed on Friday.

The Formula One Teams' Association said, however, that their entries were conditional on a new Concorde Agreement being signed by all parties before 12th June.

"The renewal of the Concorde Agreement will provide security for the future of the sport by binding all parties in a formal relationship that will ensure stability via sound governance," said FOTA in a statement.

The teams' body also said that the entries were conditional on the regulations being based on 2009 rules, "identical for all competitors and amended in accordance with proposals that FOTA has submitted to the FIA."

"All FOTA teams' entries for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship have been submitted today on the understanding that (a) all FOTA teams will be permitted to compete during the 2010 Formula One season on an identical regulatory basis and (b) that they may only be accepted as a whole," added the statement.

"All FOTA teams now look forward with optimism to collaborating proactively and productively with the FIA, with a view to establishing a solid foundation on which the future of a healthy and successful Formula One can be built, providing lasting stability and sound governance."

The FIA announced earlier this year the introduction of a budget cap system from the 2010 season.

Those teams adhering to the system would get greater technical freedom, something that most FOTA teams have spoken against.

At least four of the current teams have threatened to withdraw from the sport if the two-tier system came into play next year.

The window to submit entries for 2010 closes today.

[dazn]

hehe, kinda figured this would happen.

Max Mosely is a wiley old fool.

[EJ25RUN]

hehe, kinda figured this would happen.

Max Mosely is a wiley old fool.

I was gonna post a pic of him doing his other hobby...but im better than that.

[blacknightteg]

are their any pics of their car yet?

[EJ25RUN]

are their any pics of their car yet?

whose? Ferrari? USGP? Prodrive?

[BKgen®]

Speaking of the US team, anyone heard news on driver speculation?


Anyone but danica please...

[EJ25RUN]

Speaking of the US team, anyone heard news on driver speculation?


Anyone but danica please...

she said no when asked.

[Elbow]

I'm the driver.

[BKgen®]

^




I'd say they could hire Stig's American cousin (if he could fit in the cockpit)

[EJ25RUN]

F1live.com

As the final 24 hours until the publication of the 2010 entry list beckons, the eight rebel Formula One teams known collectively as FOTA met once again in London.

"I still believe that a reasonable solution can be found," Mercedes-Benz's Norbert Haug is quoted as saying by Germany's DPA news agency.

The current state of affairs as FOTA met on Wednesday was the ongoing stalemate between the body and the FIA, led by a seemingly equally obstinate Max Mosley.

Mosley wrote to FOTA this week, requesting that the unconditional status of the FOTA teams' entries be dropped, and McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh suggested to Auto Motor und Sport that the association's reply was ‘very constructive’.

However, Mosley's demands were not met, raising the prospect that marquee names including Ferrari and McLaren will be left off the entry list when it is published on Friday.

But speculation suggests that, due to existing (albeit disputed) agreements, Ferrari and the Red Bull teams might actually be named on the FIA's June 12th document.

The possibility led Ferrari's Stefano Domenicali to issue a media statement late Wednesday, insisting that if a compromise with the FIA is not reached imminently then Ferrari cannot be confirmed on the list of confirmed 2010 teams.

“Ferrari’s position has not changed," he said. "Back on 29 May, we put in a conditional entry with the other teams that make up FOTA. Along with this entry, we put forward to the FIA a package of proposals which included among other elements, a significant reduction in costs.
As always, we will do all we can to find a solution that is acceptable to all parties."

"If this is not possible, then the FIA will not be able to include Ferrari in the list of teams entered for the 2010 FIA Formula 1 World Championship," he concluded.

Although it is more than seven months until the first race of next season, there is a risk that June 12th could be the day on which a split became inevitable.

"If ten (non-FOTA) teams are given an entry there's a major problem," Ross Brawn said in Turkey last week. "So I hope – even if it's a holding position until we can sort this out – I hope there's a solution."

Domenicali agreed: "If you want to be sensible you can discuss whatever you want up until next year. But we need to find a solution as soon as possible."

It is arguable in whose court the ball currently lies, but as it is the FIA President who proposes revolutionising the rules, Italy's La Stampa newspaper observes: "Mr Mosley risks passing into history as the man who destroyed Formula One."

[BKgen®]

*crosses fingers*

[EJ25RUN]

*crosses fingers*

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