Encased Rollcage...
Can't believe it's never occured to me to put sheet metal over the side bars of a rollcage! Could enclose the outside and over the top then have an insert on the inside that matches the interior (or do it all sheetmetal like below) The insert could also me made removeable as an access panel to inspect the cage underneath. Paint the sheet metal then cover it with clear vinyl to protect it from wear...
I know AAP builds roll cages for Supras that are hidden underneath paneling. The car looks like it doesn't have a cage. It takes a lot of time and $$ though.
Quality Perfomance and Fabrication!!
Give me a metal brake, slicer, and a rivet gun and I'll make it happen!Originally Posted by BLK JDM
Who's gonna fab up the A, B pillar plastic or suede interior paneling and the interior inserts to cover everything up and make it look stock? hahahaGive me a metal brake, slicer, and a rivet gun and I'll make it happen!
Quality Perfomance and Fabrication!!
Wrapping is easy until you start doing the curves on dashes...it's really not much different than putting upholestry on a dining room chair.
Is that the 360 from SuperGT GT300 in Japan?
Technically the old JGTC i believe.
That's what i thought.
Now help me understand this.
GT300 cars (300HP) and GT500 (500HP)
so how does a Ferrari 360 that out of the factory produces far more power compete in a class limited to 300hp. I read that JGTC machines have superior aerodynamics to even FIA GT1 cars.
Are cars like the 360 still limited to 300hp or do the superior aero on the other cars + weight penalties out way the difference so the car can have more power than 300?
Here is the entry list for the 2007, SuperGT Gt300 season opener.
Privée KENZO Asset Shiden
SHIDEN MC/RT-16 / 1UZ-FE
Kazuho Takahashi
Hiroki Katoh Cars Tokai Dream28 YH
4 EBBRO 350R
VEMAC RD350R / ZV348
Tetsuya Tanaka
Shinsuke Yamazaki EBBRO TEAM NOVA YH
5 KUMHO Proμ MACH-GO 320R
VEMAC 320R / C32B
Tetsuji Tamanaka
Hironori Takeuchi TEAM MACH KH
7 RE AMEMIYA RX-7
MAZDA RX-7 (FD3S) / 20B Rotary
Hiroyuki Iiri
Ryo Orime RE AMEMIYA RACING YH
9 LEYJUN DUNLOP MT900
MOSLER MT900R OOX / LS1
OSAMU
Guts Jyonai A&S RACING DL
11 TOTAL BENEFIT JIM CENTER F360
FERRARI F360 MODENA (GF-F360) / F131B
Masayuki Ueda
Hideshi Matsuda JIM GAINER YH
13 ENDLESS ADVAN SENZAIKAKUMEI Z
NISSAN FAIRLADY Z (Z33) / VQ35DE
Masami Kageyama
Tomonobu Fujii ENDLESS SPORTS YH
19 WedsSport Celica
TOYOTA CELICA (ZZT231) / 3SGTE
Akira Iida
Yuhi Sekiguchi RACING PROJECT BANDOH YH
26 YUNKER-POWER TAISAN PORSCHE
PORSCHE 911GT3RS / M96/77
Shinichi Yamaji
Nobuteru Taniguchi TEAM TAISAN with NISHIZAWA YH
31 apr MR-S
TOYOTA MR-S (ZZW30) / 2GR-FE
Kyosuke Mineo
Yuya Sakamoto apr MI
43 ARTA Garaiya
Garaiya / VQ35DE
Morio Nitta
Shinichi Takagi AUTOBACS RACING TEAM AGURI MI
46 Houzan DUNLOP Z
NISSAN FAIRLADY Z (Z33) / VQ35DE
Kota Sasaki
Naoki Yokomizo MOLA DL
47 Houzan DUNLOP Z
NISSAN FAIRLADY Z (Z33) / VQ35DE
Shigekazu Wakisaka
Shogo Mitsuyama MOLA DL
55 DHG ADVAN FORD GT
FORD GT / DHG/D35806V
Daisuke Ikeda
Taku Bamba DHG Racing YH
62 WILLCOM ADVAN VEMAC408R
VEMAC 408R / MF458S
Shinsuke Shibahara
Haruki Kurosawa WILLCOM R&D SPORT YH
66 triple a GALLARDO RG3
Lamborghini Gallardo R-G3 / 07L1
Naohiro Furuya
Muneyuki Kurihara JLOC YH
67 triple a GALLARDO RG3
Lamborghini Gallardo R-G3 / 07L1
Tsubasa Kurosawa
Hisashi Wada JLOC YH
70 Gaishano Gaikokuya ADVAN PORSCHE
PORSCHE 996GT3RS / M96/97
Hiroshi Koizumi
Kazuyoshi Takamizawa TEAM GAIKOKUYA YH
77 CUSCO DUNLOP SUBARU IMPREZA
SUBARU IMPREZA (GD) / EJ20
Tetsuya Yamano
Takayuki Aoki CUSCO RACING DL
83 YOKOYAMA ADVAN UEMATSU RD320R
VEMAC RD320R / C32B
Tadao Uematsu
Ryohei Sakaguchi YOKOYAMA RACING YH
87 MARUHON MURCIE RG-1
Murcielago R-G1 (GH-BC10E) / L535
Yasutaka Hinoi
Atsushi Yogo JLOC YH
88 AKTIO MURCIE RG-1
Murcielago R-G1 (GH-BC10E) / L535
Marco Apicella[I]
Koji Yamanishi JLOC YH
101 TOY STORY apr MR-S
TOYOTA MR-S (ZZW30) / 2GR-FE
Kazuya Oshima
Hiroaki Ishiura apr MI
110 GREEN-TEC BOXSTER GT
PORSCHE BOXSTER / M96/77
Takuya Kurosawa
Hidetoshi Mitsusada ARKTECH MOTORSPORTS YH
118 FINA GLAD SpecialOlympics GT3R
PORSCHE 911GT3RS / M96/77
Takashi Miyamoto
Shozo Tagahara TOMEI SPORTS YH
333 Mario ADVAN ISHIMATSU PORSCHE
PORSCHE 911GT3RSR / M96/73
Katsuo Kobayashi
Takashi Inoue MARIO RACING WITH ISHIMATSU YH
666 Rakuten BOMEX 320R
VEMAC 320R / C32B
Shogo Suho
Junichiro Yama****a AVANZZA × BOMEX YH
I know these cars have to make more than 300hp but in GT300....Do they?
Speedminded.... that was not one of your better post.
I feel ashamed that you would think i haven't checked wiki and many other sources before hand.
But anyways, with this article....and the success ballast system.... im assuming (like i have all along) the GT300 designation means nothing. Is this the case?
""""GT300
Few works teams participate in GT300, so the field tends to be much more varied in terms of types of cars entered; although here, as in many European and North American events, Porsche tends to dominate with its 911 GT3 model making up the bulk of the field. The big Japanese car makers also participate in this class, as well as more exotic cars from the likes of Vemac and ASL. Since 2006, European-style GT cars have chosen to concentrate in this series, with Lamborghini leading the move from the higher division with some success, including a class win in the opening round of the 2006 season at Suzuka. Along with the standard GT cars, Shiden, a Riley Daytona Prototype car also exist in GT300 class since 2006, getting outstanding results (losing the title to RX-7 with tied points but less wins in 2006, and won the title in 2007). Until early 2000s when FWD cars were being permitted to be converted to RWD configuration, many of these such as Mitsubishi FTO and Toyota Corolla Levin AE101 competed in its original configuration.
GT300 cars are much more regulated than their GT500 counterparts, and much more closely resemble road-going versions. Chassis clips and realignments are not allowed (except the latter in the case of front-wheel drive cars), which results in a much more affordable racing experience for privateers. While engine outputs and modifications are at a lower level than the GT500 cars, the GT300 cars still post competitive times and races are very competitive.""""
Too busy editing pics and posting before lunch to get further into it
Awaiting better response!Too busy editing pics and posting before lunch to get further into it
how have you never though.seen that befor haha
Yeah you know...there's tons of JGTC cars at Road Atlanta, Sebring, Moroso, Homestead, Daytona, VIR, Charlotte, Talladega, Barber and whatever other tracks i've been to
Tons of American road race cars have that
Post pics, i need more ideas!
I haven't seen them.... like the GT3 Porsche and Ferraris or others?Yeah you know...there's tons of JGTC cars at Road Atlanta, Sebring, Moroso, Homestead, Daytona, VIR, Charlotte, Talladega, Barber and whatever other tracks i've been to
Doesn't matter what the car is, i've spent literally hundreds of hours at various tracks and have not seen it before.
well then you my friend FAIL!Doesn't matter what the car is, i've spent literally hundreds of hours at various tracks and have not seen it before.
i see it all the time. anywhere from regional SCCA cars all the way up to pro series.
how many hours have you spent ON the track? lol
im confused.... are you taking about actual cars that raced in jgtc then brought over?
or
cars that are like those in jgtc and other series like the fia gt championship and alms?
How can you see the inside of other cars from the driver's seat?
I've probably taken 10,000 times more photos ON the track and IN the hot pits and in the paddock than anyone else on this forum plus crewed for 3 differant race teams working on a total of nearly 40 cars between them and still haven't seen it.
Enclosing the sides reminds me of how it is to be in an original GT40 so I would notice it if I've seen it.
check out a few of the really competitive IT cars and the GT cars. they got it. I will bring my camera to the national in march and post the pics up....i will probly forgot
BTW, nice picture of the stalker
Wouldn't you think there would already be pics of all these cars on the internet already? How many nationals do you think I had media access and/or crewed for?
Of the interiors? and actually, there really isnt that many pictures from the SCCA regional/ national events at RA.
^^read what i edited
Yeah I have seen anything from a ITS RX-7 up to a ALMS Porsche
Man this is an angry post over some hidden roll cages
Who cares. If you got the cash you waste your time on hiding the roll cage. If it built up like that Ferrari on the inside and is racing there is probably a cage under it
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
It's just for a cleaner look vs. climbing inside a jungle gym. Plus could run wiring to the back in it, put switches on it, or even a vent in it to allow more air flow then what's provided on the dash.Man this is an angry post over some hidden roll cages
Who cares. If you got the cash you waste your time on hiding the roll cage. If it built up like that Ferrari on the inside and is racing there is probably a cage under it
Won't know how practical it is until the cage is done but cost is 100% irrelevant when you have a pneumatic riveter and access to a metal brake and slicer. What is it, about $100 for a 4' x 10' sheet of aluminum sheet metal? It's not like I have to pay someone $100+ p/hr to make something I can fabricate myself.
i got a HUGE sheet of metal at my house.
and about running wire, you could do that with just tubing. here is a picture of it done in CF
I'd do anything to have the interior door skins like that but rolls of carbon fiber are pretty high $$$ right now. Still contemplating black suede on everything!
/\ That looks sick
whos BMW?
PM me about the CF
Pasi from Carfreaks.com... http://carfreaks.net/garage/?car=6 or http://carfreaks.net/photos/garage/m3pasi/
Passenger seat ftwi got a HUGE sheet of metal at my house.
and about running wire, you could do that with just tubing. here is a picture of it done in CF
If you build it right why do you have to climb over a "jungle gym"? What will covering the bars do for you? It is only going to the same height as the bars or higher if you space it over the bars.
I just don't see the point in the time spent whether you are paying someone or doing it yourself. I guess if you want to impress people looking at it then it would be worthwhile. I would rather spend my hours that I would spend doing it doing something else.
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
Perhaps, something more important that no one has considered are the implications for the car passing tech at the event you want to drive.
For example, I'm about 90% certain that if a car showed up to a NASA-SE event with a cage like in the Ferrari, we would not allow it to pass tech. Why?
There wouldn't be any SFI padding protecting the driver's or instructor's melons in the event of an off course excursion into a tire wall, or, God forbid, a roll over.
Maybe you have checked the rules for the sanctioning body where you want to drive the car, but the posts in this thread seem to indicate otherwise.
The drivers helmet cant even touch it though probably, and that is weird there is no padding anyway.
You might be surprised how much a driver, or passenger, will really move in a track incident...even when properly harnessed into the car.
True
That's the point I was trying to make with everyone saying they see it all the time...i'm pretty sure it's not legal where they say they've seen it BUT who says they can't use SFI padding on the face of it just like the interior of a formula Mazda/Atlantic/Ford, etc.
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...p?Product=2396
I've already mentioned [at least once] about making the interior panel removable for cage inspection...could easily do the same for the exterior panel too allowing a full 360° view around all the welds on the cross bars. It's really not rocket science.
The lil project car I'm building probably won't be legal in ANY competitive sanctioning body, lolol...it's just a fun 2,100-2,200lbs play car with nearly 400hp on low boost. Will make a great time attack car though, should I post the specifications of the cage they require for you?
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