Encased Rollcage...

[speedminded]

If you build it right why do you have to climb over a "jungle gym"? What will covering the bars do for you? It is only going to the same height as the bars or higher if you space it over the bars.

I just don't see the point in the time spent whether you are paying someone or doing it yourself. I guess if you want to impress people looking at it then it would be worthwhile. I would rather spend my hours that I would spend doing it doing something else.

It's really not that hard to imagine, visually a flat smooth surface is going to be more appealing then a bunch of cross bars. Sure it's going to enclose the "cockpit" more, it may even make it feel smaller inside but the goal is to make the interior clean and simple. Who knows, it may not look the way i want it too...that's why i want to see more pics of it to get ideas!!

[DinanM3atl]

I completely understand what you are doing. The enclosed cages seems more of a "oh wow damn that is SICK" kind of response on a web forum.

When I was at Fall-Line Motorsports in Chicago building Grand Am Cup M3s(now Koni Challenge) there was no time to worry about bull **** like that. There was chassis setup and engine tuning and the list goes on and on. The point of a race car is to win and most of the time function comes over form if it helps win.

I will say again, I don't see the point in wasting my own time or paying someone to do this. It certainly may look cool and get some responses on a web forum but what is the point?

Time Attack have bull**** rules for safety. I think you can run a bolt in 4 point... maybe requires a 6 point. Why don't you build the car to a class?

[speedminded]

I completely understand what you are doing. The enclosed cages seems more of a "oh wow damn that is SICK" kind of response on a web forum.

When I was at Fall-Line Motorsports in Chicago building Grand Am Cup M3s(now Koni Challenge) there was no time to worry about bull **** like that. There was chassis setup and engine tuning and the list goes on and on. The point of a race car is to win and most of the time function comes over form if it helps win.

I will say again, I don't see the point in wasting my own time or paying someone to do this. It certainly may look cool and get some responses on a web forum but what is the point?

Time Attack have bull**** rules for safety. I think you can run a bolt in 4 point... maybe requires a 6 point. Why don't you build the car to a class?

I'm not doing it for anyone else silly, I could give a **** what anyone else thinks about a car I build when it's for me!

~looking for the race car~ **crickets**

...nope, still not a race car. I sure as hell won't let anyone drive next to my car like that let alone a couple dozen. That's what a stock body, legal brakes, non-turbo, etc. car is for. I don't have a schedule, I don't have a calender of events I have to drive in, I don't have a race team relying to feed their families with the car...nothing. It's just a safe and relatively quick play car that will occasionally see time on the track. I will have a track car but it won't be this one.

As for Time Attack, I don't care if they allow PVC pipe for a rollcage...i'm building it to the specs I feel safe in, whether its SCCA or DTM or a combination of all the best and safest things I find.

[StraightSix]

I suppose my take on the whole idea is similar to DinanM3Atl's. I don't really see the point to putting all the work into something that will ultimately only add weight and make the tech inspection process at track events, however many you attend, more cumbersome.

I agree that the other people who have posted previously claiming to have seen something similar to the Ferrari in your original post at local SCCA events "all the time" are flat wrong. I go to a lot of track events and I haven't seen anything like that...ever.

To me the notion of an enclosed roll cage is something that's just bling. The overwhelming point that i really wanted to make was that before spending the time to enclose your roll structure make sure it will be allowed by whatever track event sanctioning body where you might want to enjoy your creation.

[dazn]

I suppose my take on the whole idea is similar to DinanM3Atl's. I don't really see the point to putting all the work into something that will ultimately only add weight and make the tech inspection process at track events, however many you attend, more cumbersome.

I agree that the other people who have posted previously claiming to have seen something similar to the Ferrari in your original post at local SCCA events "all the time" are flat wrong. I go to a lot of track events and I haven't seen anything like that...ever.

To me the notion of an enclosed roll cage is something that's just bling. The overwhelming point that i really wanted to make was that before spending the time to enclose your roll structure make sure it is will be allowed by whatever track event sanctioning body where you might want to enjoy your creation.

I am at almost every SE NASA and SCCA event and have never seen an "enclosed" cage. There may be some in a BP car or some production series but even the top IT cars dont have any.

if you do plan on racing the car in any sanctioned events, just make sure you get your cage drilled, teched and stamped before covering everything up. you might even leave the area where it stamped clear so it can be seen easily.