The end :(

[Elbow]

Entertaining...

If you are a good enough driver then you can lock the tires down and still navigate FWD or RWD. Brake, turn, gas, turn opposite, throttle out, change your panties and light a cigarette cuz you just saved your ride

Hate to say it but Mike is right, idiots deserve to be called idiots. Dopp...fucking hilarious.

Wait...what???

You're saying you can still maneuver a car with the wheels locked? lol

IF there is somewhere to "abort" to, the correct thing would to be brake, slow the car down as much as possible, trail off the brake and turn to where you want to go to avoid whatever you're wanting to avoid.

If you lock the wheels, game over unless you can modulate it and unlock the wheels, people think threshold braking is just slamming that pedal to the floor. You can't turn when your front wheels aren't spinning.

I don't know why you're saying to get back on the gas.

[Sammich]

Entertaining...

If you are a good enough driver then you can lock the tires down and still navigate FWD or RWD. Brake, turn, gas, turn opposite, throttle out, change your panties and light a cigarette cuz you just saved your ride

Hate to say it but Mike is right, idiots deserve to be called idiots. Dopp...fucking hilarious.

one turn was the guard rail, the other turn, seeing that it's a 2 lane highway, could have possibly been a head on collision...

[silversol]

I hope the judge that see's he previous arrest case, reads this thread!

[Gashbell4595]

Agree with Mike, most people missing his point, kid needs to take responsibility and not talk shit on interwebz.

[Catnip]

I haven't said anything because I know what it's like to lose a car over not being skilled enough to overcome a shitty situation (my fault or not). It happens to some people. You learn from it. Whether his parents paid for the car or not, it sucks to see it happen. It sucks to be in an accident. He may not be cowering down and called himself stupid, but if I were a gambling man I'd bet he learned from it. At least he didn't hit the car in front of him and possibly mess up one or more person's neck.

[chaseamundo]

I just read this entire thread and feel the need to say at least one thing (partly due to the complete waste of five minutes of my life i just encountered).

Mike (vteckid) you are one-hundred percent correct.

That is all.

[dragoncelica]

No one have come up with this card yet, so i will...

Have neither of you guys took a DEFENSIVE DRIVING CLASS before?

Well let me tell you, if you take it, (VERY RECOMMENDED) You will give "Vteckidd" all the reason and credit!

first step to became a real man is to start accepting your fuck ups and the responsibilities that came with them, and if you do fuck up, never post it in a public forum.

But there is a saying that goes perfect for all this ordeal...

YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!

[l Gizzy l]

No one have come up with this card yet, so i will...

Have neither of you guys took a DEFENSIVE DRIVING CLASS before?

Well let me tell you, if you take it, (VERY RECOMMENDED) You will give "Vteckidd" all the reason and credit!

first step to became a real man is to start accepting your fuck ups and the responsibilities that came with them, and if you do fuck up, never post it in a public forum.

But there is a saying that goes perfect for all this ordeal...

YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!

Thank you sir. Defensive driving should be mandatory, I've taken 3 classes, as well as had track training and avoidance maneuvers (had like 11 kids in my high school die from accidents while i went, so they made it all free)

I have to agree with Vteckid. Hate it that you lost a nice car, but I'd say too close so no reaction time. Why don't you ever see Corvettes, Porsches, Ferraris, etc flying down the interstates, swerving in and out of traffic, etc? Because they have nothing to prove. That is why you see so very few of those cars wrecked over shit like this. Now in contrast, why do you see so many Hondas, Toyotas, Mustangs, etc being destroyed? ...exactly.

Really? Have you ever been 85? Thats ALL it is, is corvettes and porsches showing out. Not to mention if you go to big cities like Miami. Oh, and watch super speeders 2.

Sucks, nermin, but glad you're ok bud. Can buy another car, cant buy another life.

[Sammich]

tell you what, to the people that say you can drive a car if it's sliding, tell me how to successfully do that when you hit a nice patch of black ice while you're sliding...

[Vteckidd]

tell you what, to the people that say you can drive a car if it's sliding, tell me how to successfully do that when you hit a nice patch of black ice while you're sliding...

If icy conditions exist you should drive appropriately. Again its defensive driving, its 10-2, its Always be aware. This is Drivers ED 101.

Guess what, if you know its sub freezing outside, and youre driving, you should be aware of those conditions, you shouldnty drive like its 85 and sunny. its really that simple. If you hit black ice and wreck, its YOUR FAULT for driving TOO FAST FOR CONDITIONS or failing to be aware of the road conditions that exist.

I was driving my fathers G37 about 2 years ago when we had that ice storm, and i was going 45mph on a back road, prob about 20 miles too fast because i was in a hurry. I hita patch of ice on a corner and slipped out and came 3 feet from a telephone pole and wrecking my dads brand new $45000 car. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY FAULT for driving way too fast. I backed up, turned around and went straight back home and parked that bitch because I wasnt going to risk screwing up again.

But i suspect none of that is "cool" to do anymore. its much easier to go "LOL I wrecked my car OH WELL ACCIDENTS HAPPEN" *insert pics on a forum for sympathy.

[Sammich]

LMAO!!!! wait...sooooooo you're saying the one time i hit a patch of ice while i was already driving slow and was decreasing in speed well before my turn, and hit a patch of ice..while i was brake pumping, not standing on brakes, if i would have hit a car going 15mph at most, would have been my fault? Mike, i can't agree with you at all. I'm a careful driver, luckily in my 11 years of driving have only been in 2 wrecks, none of which were my fault nor was i found at fault. There are circumstances where an "accident" is that, an accident. Are there times where it's not an accident and it's a crash as a result of erratic driving/behavior, yes, but not ever wreck is a crash JUST SOLELY based off of the person's history or a "driving too fast for conditions". Black ice is called black ice for a reason because it's damn near invisible until you actually hit it. The time i hit it in ATL about 2 years ago, i was only lucky that the black ice didnt extend so far that i didnt continue going and curb my wheels and whatever else could have been damaged.

I understand defensive driving, hence why i'm never following close behind someone and if i am, i know who and what is around me very well, but i know there are times where you just can't avoid a situation. I don't get at all this perfectionist frame of mind all of IA has

[Sinfix_15]

LMAO!!!! wait...sooooooo you're saying the one time i hit a patch of ice while i was already driving slow and was decreasing in speed well before my turn, and hit a patch of ice..while i was brake pumping, not standing on brakes, if i would have hit a car going 15mph at most, would have been my fault? Mike, i can't agree with you at all. I'm a careful driver, luckily in my 11 years of driving have only been in 2 wrecks, none of which were my fault nor was i found at fault. There are circumstances where an "accident" is that, an accident. Are there times where it's not an accident and it's a crash as a result of erratic driving/behavior, yes, but not ever wreck is a crash JUST SOLELY based off of the person's history or a "driving too fast for conditions". Black ice is called black ice for a reason because it's damn near invisible until you actually hit it. The time i hit it in ATL about 2 years ago, i was only lucky that the black ice didnt extend so far that i didnt continue going and curb my wheels and whatever else could have been damaged.

I understand defensive driving, hence why i'm never following close behind someone and if i am, i know who and what is around me very well, but i know there are times where you just can't avoid a situation. I don't get at all this perfectionist frame of mind all of IA has

If you would have wrecked, it would have been Bush's fault. Its not your fault, nothing is ever your fault. Always someone else, you're a victim of circumstance.

You're not entitled to be able to travel the roads in a corvette..... if you feel your car is not adequate to travel in freezing conditions, then you should either stay the fuck at home or get something that is. Sometimes it makes me sad to see how pathetically helpless americans tend to be. Especially young people..... teenage americans are about the biggest pussies on the face of the planet. This is shit other parts of the world deal with on a daily basis. There's a solution to everything......................... you're just too adept to making an excuse for everything.

[Sammich]

If you would have wrecked, it would have been Bush's fault. Its not your fault, nothing is ever your fault. Always someone else, you're a victim of circumstance.

You're not entitled to be able to travel the roads in a corvette..... if you feel your car is not adequate to travel in freezing conditions, then you should either stay the fuck at home or get something that is. Sometimes it makes me sad to see how pathetically helpless americans tend to be. Especially young people..... teenage americans are about the biggest pussies on the face of the planet. This is shit other parts of the world deal with on a daily basis. There's a solution to everything......................... you're just too adept to making an excuse for everything.

being in south carolina there are minimal times i have driven in freezing conditions. so having experience driving in these conditions i have only taken what i learned from by word of mouth and applied them. your "bushes fault/obama voter" BS card is overplayed and ignorant and has nothing to do w/ this discussion. pointing out the difference between a possible avoidable situation and a situation caused by someone else is what i'm saying. i'm also saying NO ONE WAS AT THE SCENE OF THE ACCIDENT AS IT TOOK PLACE SO EVERYONE IN HERE ACCUSING NERMIN OF DRIVING ERRATIC HAS NO PLACE BECAUSE THEY SAW NOTHING BUT THE END RESULT.

[Sinfix_15]

being in south carolina there are minimal times i have driven in freezing conditions. so having experience driving in these conditions i have only taken what i learned from by word of mouth and applied them. your "bushes fault/obama voter" BS card is overplayed and ignorant and has nothing to do w/ this discussion. pointing out the difference between a possible avoidable situation and a situation caused by someone else is what i'm saying. i'm also saying NO ONE WAS AT THE SCENE OF THE ACCIDENT AS IT TOOK PLACE SO EVERYONE IN HERE ACCUSING NERMIN OF DRIVING ERRATIC HAS NO PLACE BECAUSE THEY SAW NOTHING BUT THE END RESULT.

the point is...... you're never prepared for anything.... its simply not a part of modern american's culture to be prepared for anything. Then when something happens as a result of a lack of preparation the response is always....

"omg poor me!!! nothin i could do!!"

Always an excuse.

[Sammich]

the point is...... you're never prepared for anything.... its simply not a part of modern american's culture to be prepared for anything. Then when something happens as a result of a lack of preparation the response is always....

"omg poor me!!! nothin i could do!!"

Always an excuse.

So move to Alaska to know how to deal/drive in random freezing conditions that happen in the south? This though process is mind blowing right now. I'm guessing everything in your life happened perfectly and nothing wrong ever happened in it, no mistakes, silver spoon served, etc.

[chaseamundo]

This is becoming a cluster fuck of people not understanding eachother and having to have the last word. I see everyones point of view, and most overyone is correct. The two main points being argued:

1) Accidents are not avoidable.....hence "accident".
2) You can dramatically decrease the chances of being in an accident by not driving like a fucktard, and driving Appropriately for the existing conditions.

Period.

[Sammich]

1) Accidents are not avoidable.....hence "accident".
2) You can dramatically decrease the chances of being in an accident by not driving like a fucktard, and driving Appropriately for the existing conditions.

agreed

[l Gizzy l]

Always leave yourself an out, and it drastically reduces the chance of being in an accident. Ok so you're behind someone, leave space, pay attention to your surroundings, and dont drive like Ricky Bobby unless you can handle the situation.

As you said, some accidents are unavoidable, but there's always a reason they were made unavoidable.

All of this is really negligible to Nermin's post, His car is totalled, and that's the end of that...... Sort of preaching to the choire, either people will learn or they wont. But I know for me, it took me having close friends die in high school to auto accidents for me to learn. Its a hard lesson, but everyone learns it differently. Back then, I wouldnt listen to anyone else for shit. Just part of the mindset.

[Kyle]

Yeah hard-parked cars tend to do these things.

OP please be more careful, we all have friends and family on the road. Sorry about your car though, hopefully a lesson was learned and you will drive more responsibly going forward.

[Sinfix_15]

Reading some of the posts in here makes it really easy to understand how Obama was reelected. bunch of crying excuse makers who never accept responsibility for anything.

[chaseamundo]

Reading some of the posts in here makes it really easy to understand how Obama was reelected. bunch of crying excuse makers who never accept responsibility for anything.

I completely agree, but politics is the last thing this thread needs.

[.blank cd]

Reading some of the posts in here makes it really easy to understand how Obama was reelected. bunch of crying excuse makers who never accept responsibility for anything.

Double facepalm.

[Sinfix_15]

Double facepalm.

Get used to it. 2-3 years from now Obama jokes are going to be normal, as if theyre not already.

Blank..... yo momma so dumb, she voted for Obama....... twice.

[Vteckidd]

Ok this is seriously my last post in this thread, and Im going to try and make you understand for the last time. Theres 2 things going on that you are just missing sammich , and others.

NO ONE WAS AT THE SCENE OF THE ACCIDENT AS IT TOOK PLACE SO EVERYONE IN HERE ACCUSING NERMIN OF DRIVING ERRATIC HAS NO PLACE BECAUSE THEY SAW NOTHING BUT THE END RESULT.

1) How else does one wreck the FRONT of their car without running into something, right? It means you couldnt stop in time, which means you were traveling too fast. He also not only just tapped his front bumper and headlight, he hit something so hard it rippled down the side of his car, AND ripped the front wheel off. This isnt a MINOR accident, this is a TOTAL LOSS accident. Then, we have his statements "someone slammed on their brakes for no reason" this is called BRAKE checking. HIS OWN WORDS admit to him A) following too closely B) traveling too fast C) Being inexperienced

You know that NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS if you strike something with the FRONT of your car you are ALWAYS 100% AT FAULT. NO EXCEPTIONS. Its LAW. Say youre sitting at a light stopped and theres a car in front and behind you. A car SLAMS into the car behind you and pushes your car into the car in front of you. GUESS WHAT? YOU ARE AT FAULT FOR BEING TOO CLOSE TO THE CAR IN FRONT OF YOU. Happens ALL THE TIME ask ANY cop. Sure if you were 10 cars back and some jackass plows into you doing 100mph its an exception but youre probably dead at that point so assigning fault is the least of your concerns. But 99.999999% of the time, ANY front end collision is AVOIDABLE, YOUR FAULT.

2) Why am I picking on Nermin? Because 3 weeks ago (and before that) he was bragging about DRIVING fast, SWERVING IN AN OUT OF TRAFFIC, GETTING ARRESTED , HAVING HIS CAR IMPOUNDED, ETC and NOW he wrecks his car KNOWING he was DRIVING TOO FAST, AND WRECKED. How can you CONDONE his actions? I can only come to 2 conclusions

1) Hes an idiot teenager who doesnt have the parents to correct his behavior
2) Hes an idiot teenager who doesnt have friends who have the balls to tell him to calm down

Ive been 18, ive made mistakes, ive NEVER said i was perfect. its because i fucked up im telling him to realize it and stop being a jackass.

But this day in age you guys are such PUSSIES that ANY sort of criticism you get SO offended and butt hurt that you whine moan and complain and blame it on someone else. If i had wrecked my car i wouldnt have posted pics about it on the internet 3 weeks after being arrested for driving like a doosh.

AND NOW HES BRAGGING ABOUT A BUILD THREAD FOR AN STI????? This kid couldnt control 180whp, and now you want him with 250-300whp+ ??????

This doesnt scare ANY of you?

Ok, IM DONE.

[Echonova]

went back and read, still didnt see where he said in this thread related to this accident he was speeding, he said 50mph..which seems legit to that kind of road.

He's talking about this thread were Nermin was arrested for reckless driving.
Car impounded?

AND NOW HES BRAGGING ABOUT A BUILD THREAD FOR AN STI????? This kid couldnt control 180whp, and now you want him with 250-300whp+ ??????

This doesnt scare ANY of you?

Ok, IM DONE.

It's 310hp... Annnnd it is already for sale.
2005 Modded WRX FS/FT

[Sammich]

He's talking about this thread were Nermin was arrested for reckless driving.
Car impounded?

]

i know..and that's why i said "this thread"

[chaseamundo]

Ok this is seriously my last post in this thread, and Im going to try and make you understand for the last time. Theres 2 things going on that you are just missing sammich , and others.



1) How else does one wreck the FRONT of their car without running into something, right? It means you couldnt stop in time, which means you were traveling too fast. He also not only just tapped his front bumper and headlight, he hit something so hard it rippled down the side of his car, AND ripped the front wheel off. This isnt a MINOR accident, this is a TOTAL LOSS accident. Then, we have his statements "someone slammed on their brakes for no reason" this is called BRAKE checking. HIS OWN WORDS admit to him A) following too closely B) traveling too fast C) Being inexperienced

You know that NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS if you strike something with the FRONT of your car you are ALWAYS 100% AT FAULT. NO EXCEPTIONS. Its LAW. Say youre sitting at a light stopped and theres a car in front and behind you. A car SLAMS into the car behind you and pushes your car into the car in front of you. GUESS WHAT? YOU ARE AT FAULT FOR BEING TOO CLOSE TO THE CAR IN FRONT OF YOU. Happens ALL THE TIME ask ANY cop. Sure if you were 10 cars back and some jackass plows into you doing 100mph its an exception but youre probably dead at that point so assigning fault is the least of your concerns. But 99.999999% of the time, ANY front end collision is AVOIDABLE, YOUR FAULT.

2) Why am I picking on Nermin? Because 3 weeks ago (and before that) he was bragging about DRIVING fast, SWERVING IN AN OUT OF TRAFFIC, GETTING ARRESTED , HAVING HIS CAR IMPOUNDED, ETC and NOW he wrecks his car KNOWING he was DRIVING TOO FAST, AND WRECKED. How can you CONDONE his actions? I can only come to 2 conclusions

1) Hes an idiot teenager who doesnt have the parents to correct his behavior
2) Hes an idiot teenager who doesnt have friends who have the balls to tell him to calm down

Ive been 18, ive made mistakes, ive NEVER said i was perfect. its because i fucked up im telling him to realize it and stop being a jackass.

But this day in age you guys are such PUSSIES that ANY sort of criticism you get SO offended and butt hurt that you whine moan and complain and blame it on someone else. If i had wrecked my car i wouldnt have posted pics about it on the internet 3 weeks after being arrested for driving like a doosh.

AND NOW HES BRAGGING ABOUT A BUILD THREAD FOR AN STI????? This kid couldnt control 180whp, and now you want him with 250-300whp+ ??????

This doesnt scare ANY of you?

Ok, IM DONE.

Well played sir. Well played.

[Hermin]

Ok this is seriously my last post in this thread, and Im going to try and make you understand for the last time. Theres 2 things going on that you are just missing sammich , and others.



1) How else does one wreck the FRONT of their car without running into something, right? It means you couldnt stop in time, which means you were traveling too fast. He also not only just tapped his front bumper and headlight, he hit something so hard it rippled down the side of his car, AND ripped the front wheel off. This isnt a MINOR accident, this is a TOTAL LOSS accident. Then, we have his statements "someone slammed on their brakes for no reason" this is called BRAKE checking. HIS OWN WORDS admit to him A) following too closely B) traveling too fast C) Being inexperienced

You know that NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS if you strike something with the FRONT of your car you are ALWAYS 100% AT FAULT. NO EXCEPTIONS. Its LAW. Say youre sitting at a light stopped and theres a car in front and behind you. A car SLAMS into the car behind you and pushes your car into the car in front of you. GUESS WHAT? YOU ARE AT FAULT FOR BEING TOO CLOSE TO THE CAR IN FRONT OF YOU. Happens ALL THE TIME ask ANY cop. Sure if you were 10 cars back and some jackass plows into you doing 100mph its an exception but youre probably dead at that point so assigning fault is the least of your concerns. But 99.999999% of the time, ANY front end collision is AVOIDABLE, YOUR FAULT.

2) Why am I picking on Nermin? Because 3 weeks ago (and before that) he was bragging about DRIVING fast, SWERVING IN AN OUT OF TRAFFIC, GETTING ARRESTED , HAVING HIS CAR IMPOUNDED, ETC and NOW he wrecks his car KNOWING he was DRIVING TOO FAST, AND WRECKED. How can you CONDONE his actions? I can only come to 2 conclusions

1) Hes an idiot teenager who doesnt have the parents to correct his behavior
2) Hes an idiot teenager who doesnt have friends who have the balls to tell him to calm down

Ive been 18, ive made mistakes, ive NEVER said i was perfect. its because i fucked up im telling him to realize it and stop being a jackass.

But this day in age you guys are such PUSSIES that ANY sort of criticism you get SO offended and butt hurt that you whine moan and complain and blame it on someone else. If i had wrecked my car i wouldnt have posted pics about it on the internet 3 weeks after being arrested for driving like a doosh.

AND NOW HES BRAGGING ABOUT A BUILD THREAD FOR AN STI????? This kid couldnt control 180whp, and now you want him with 250-300whp+ ??????

This doesnt scare ANY of you?

Ok, IM DONE.

mike you're a joke of a human being. where was I bragging? you're an idiot. NOONE brake checked me, they were pulling into a driveway.


If anyone is offended it's you. I'm not hurt, mad, sad, or annoyed lol. I'm laughing at the fact that you have all this time to write paragraphs. Were you there though? To tell me how fast I was going and what I did? No, so keep your mouth shut. I'll make sure I post up the police report.

[Vteckidd]

mike you're a joke of a human being. where was I bragging? you're an idiot. NOONE brake checked me, they were pulling into a driveway.


If anyone is offended it's you. I'm not hurt, mad, sad, or annoyed lol. I'm laughing at the fact that you have all this time to write paragraphs. Were you there though? To tell me how fast I was going and what I did? No, so keep your mouth shut. I'll make sure I post up the police report.

[l Gizzy l]

Everybody just hug it out.

Barneysneakabjstyle.

[Sammich]

i didnt see of his 'i was following too close while speeding' posts, all i read was his OP, saw maybe one of his other post and teh influx of bashing against him, of course running into the back of someone does usually warrant following too close.

[Sammich]

went back and read, still didnt see where he said in this thread related to this accident he was speeding, he said 50mph..which seems legit to that kind of road.

[Vteckidd]

went back and read, still didnt see where he said in this thread related to this accident he was speeding, he said 50mph..which seems legit to that kind of road.

JESUS H CHRIST.

If you are going the speed limit and have to swerve off the road, you are FOLLOWING TOO CLOSELY. GUILTY

If you are speeding and have to swerve off the road , you are GOING TOO FAST.

FUCKINA IM GOING TO SHOOT MYSELF can you guys not think rationally? Do you have ZERO deductive reasoning skills??

<3 Sammich

[Sammich]

I'll leave it...i was going to type an essay, let's just say i get where you are coming from, i just hope you got where i was coming from..

[l Gizzy l]

wonder what's wrong with it.....

[SHAUNvX]

Ill say he needs to take a drivers ed class, I did before I got my DL.

[KyleG]

I've taken my drivers ed course more reasent than anyone here. Didn't teach me a thing, I honestly corrected my coach everyday. Drivers ed would not of stopped this from happening or had any side effect.lol
At 50 mph you are covering 73 feet per second. If someone slams there brakes, and you are 3 car lengths back you don't have time to think about anything. Who cares about his past, he was driving to get parts. I drive fast sometimes, key word sometimes. If you say you don't, you're crazy. Back off on the guy, if he's not really concerned. Your life goes on

[Catnip]

I've taken my drivers ed course more reasent than anyone here. Didn't teach me a thing, I honestly corrected my coach everyday. Drivers ed would not of stopped this from happening or had any side effect.lol
At 50 mph you are covering 73 feet per second. If someone slams there brakes, and you are 3 car lengths back you don't have time to think about anything. Who cares about his past, he was driving to get parts. I drive fast sometimes, key word sometimes. If you say you don't, you're crazy. Back off on the guy, if he's not really concerned. Your life goes on

3 car lengths @ 50mph is too close.

[Elbow]

3 car lengths @ 50mph is too close.

I know you don't keep more than THREE CAR LENGTHS between you and another car at 50mph.

This thread is stupid, kid wrecked his car, sucks to be him. Move along.

[Catnip]

I know you don't keep more than THREE CAR LENGTHS between you and another car at 50mph.

This thread is stupid, kid wrecked his car, sucks to be him. Move along.

I usually do stay pretty far away. Daily driving all the shitty cars I have in the past, it's become a habit to stay back. If I'm not staying decently far back, then I'm in something I trust and stay very aware.

On the flip side, I just rear ended someone for the first time in my life last weekend. Going around 5mph. LOL.