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    Default Turbo Prelude Build Thread (lots of pictures)

    The Disclaimer
    Just to clarify, this isn't a build thread with shaved bays, crazy wet paint, $3000 wheels, etc.
    This is just a regular swap. A couple of car guys finding a free weekend to help out a friend with his car. This is my first swap, so it was definitely a learning experience. This is just the engine swap, I'll update when all the random parts I've bought over the last year get installed.

    The Story
    The motor threw rod #3 through the side of the block on 4/1/10 (April fools day. Ha..) After I installed my HKS EVC5 EBC and didn't know the conversion between Kpa and psi. I ran close to 2 Bar through a stock motor. My own stupid mistake. The car has sat for over a year while I've tried to come up with parts and a new motor to get it running again.

    The setup

    96 Honda Prelude S (silver)
    F22A1 (8.8:1 compression)
    5-Speed
    Performance:
    Turbonetics Turbo kit (t3/t4, powder coated piping, Turbonetic couplers and T bolt clamps, intercooler)
    Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate
    Greddy Replica BOV
    Greddy Emanage Ultimate
    Greddy Turbo Timer
    Greddy Oil Catch Can
    Greddy MAP sensor and MAP harness
    Greddy A/F Harness
    HKS EVC 5 Electronic Boost controller
    Competition Clutch Stage 5, 6 puck
    Competition Clutch Pressure Plate
    Competition clutch 8lbs Flywheel
    Compustar alarm system with receiver
    Summit battery relocation kit
    K&N Filter
    Custom made intake heat shield
    2.5” Downpipe
    Custom 3” Stainless steel Exhaust
    Silverline Resonator
    Apexi N1 Muffler
    Suspension:
    DC Sport Front strut bar
    DC Sport Rear tie bar
    OBX Front tie bar
    Skunk2 Adjustable Coilovers
    KYB AGX struts
    Camber kit
    Exterior:
    17x7 Nexo NX-7 wheels
    OEM Honda sun roof visor
    OEM Prelude Si front lip
    Amber section of taillights cleared
    Prelude badge removed
    Interior:
    Razo white shift knob
    Xenarc 7” touch screen
    Glowshift Volt gauge
    Glowshift 7 color oil pressure gauge
    Glowshift 7 color oil temp gauge
    Glowshift pillar gauge pod
    AEM UEGO wideband A/F Ratio gauge
    Black suede door panels, tweeter pods, arm rest, headliner and rear panels
    New black carpet
    Alpine headunit (CD/DVD/MP3)
    Alpine 6.5 speakers
    Ipod hookup (ran into middle console)
    Capacitor mounted between rear seats
    Mugen polished pedal set
    Forbidden Motorsports Short Shifter


    The Past




    The Carnage


    After getting some stuff out of the way




    Getting to work


























    The Thanks
    Thanks so much to Tim (Tdurr) and Jeremy (hseries). DEFINITELY couldn't have got this far without your help. I thought I knew a good bit about this stuff, but these guys taught me alot.

    UPDATE: 6/9/11
    Tdurr and I went last weekend and finished everything up, It cranks, but no spark. Throwing code 15. So I bought a new jdm dizzy (internal coil) and I'm just waiting on that to come in. I plan to swap to external eventually, but this was just a quick fix.

    Also bought a few goodies, I figured I have enough go fast parts for now, so the Prelude gets some long over do "look at me" parts.

    "Mugen Style" front lip


    JDM one piece headlights


    (Personal Favorite) SSR SP1's 17x7 +37 17x8+37


    Aluminum full size radiator, (I already had a dual FAL fan set up with shroud)


    5 panel wink mirror


    Update 6/16/11

    After 2 weeks of no spark, I finally figured out what it was, and I feel really stupid. When I went from external coil to internal, I didn't do anything with the coil plug on the harness! So a 20 amp blade fuse was used to jump off the plug and it started right up. After some idle issues and figuring out the firing order, here it is!

    The Revival


    Update 6/22/2011

    So the prelude is scheduled to be dropped off at Batlground Motorsports (batlground.com) to start wiring up the emanage ultimate. Tuning will take place either the next day or the following tuesday (july 5th). I'll be sure to have Uho (jim) and possibly Tdurr (tim) there to take videos.

    Update 6/30/2011

    So this morning I woke up 10 minutes before I was suppose to be in court, somehow got my suit on, shaved, made my hair somewhat presentable, and made it on time. I am officially done with all court related issues! It's been a long 5 months...

    After court, my dad called and said he picked up the Uhaul auto transport trailer and was on the way to load up the Prelude (I dont live at home). He got up here about an hour later and we were off to Batlground. Hunter, one of the employees there did a great job filling me in on what would take place over the next few days and promised to keep me informed. Wiring started today and will hopefully be done by tomorrow. Then the tune will most likely take place on the 5th. I'm excited about being able to drive the car again, and seeing what numbers it makes, but I'm already in the process of piecing together my next big upgrade. Only a couple people know what the plan is, and It'll stay that way until it's tuned....again.

    I forgot to take pictures today because I was so excited, but I'll be sure to have some pics/vids up as soon as I get them. Thanks guys!

    Update 7/7/2011

    So, change of plans... I sold the prelude and bought a mustang. lol, jk. Batlground called me about a week ago and asked me what I thought about tuning with Chrome. After a little while of talking it over, I decided they knew best. So I ordered a P72 from Dirka Dirka (Eric). It arrived at Batlground today and should be getting chipped/tuned early next week.

    Hopefully I can get the car back and get some of the parts laying in my room installed before I leave for import Alliance on the 15th!


    Update 7/15/2011

    I CANT CATCH A BREAK! AAAAAHHH!!!

    Ok, so I got my car back from batlground 2 hours before I had to leave for Import Alliance. I drove it around town and noticed a slight knocking sound. I pulled over, checked tire pressure, checked the brakes, listened to the motor idle and rev a bit. Nothing. So the only thing I could think of was the exhaust knocking against the exhaust tunnel. I didn't have all the hangers on, so it made sense. I drove from Marietta to Mcdonough (an hour drive) to pick up a friend for IA, made it back to I-75 and was in stop and go traffic. At 30mph, in the far left lane, I "hit a pot hole"... Or so I thought. Big bump, scrubbing sound, and then I look out my window and see my wheel rolling next to my car, headed across the median and towards on coming traffic. Apparently somewhere between trailering my car to the shop and coming back up 75, all my lugs loosened and fell off. I'm in no way placing blame on anyone or anything, until I can figure out exactly what happened. The tire caught the fender and folded it under, and it shred the sidewall. Thank god the cross member caught most of the slide, so the oil pan isn't leaking from what I can tell. Radiator is leaking, but I have a new one waiting to go on. Had to get a new tire, and I think my wheel is bent a bit. Also need a new fender. Oh, and 1 stud is stripped and 1 is bent. So I have to address that.

    After the whole ordeal, We took a vote (of 2 people) and decided we were still going to make it. We stopped every few exits and checked the lugs. 12 hours after leaving for Import Alliance, we made it.


    The Prelude is FAR from finished, or even presentable, but it runs, and it's a trooper.

    UPDATE 12/31/11

    HAPPY NEW YEARS EVE EVERYBODY!!!

    It's been a while since I updated my build thread, so I wanted to catch everybody up to speed. I'll try to list everything in the order it happened.

    Bought/ sticker'd my wink mirror



    Bought my new wheels!
    Rota D2's 17x7.5 +20, 17x8.5 +25
    Because the SSR SP-1's I bought turned out to be a scam and a huge lose of money, I bought these, which are replicas. Sad thing is, I already bought ssr center caps and spoke decals (caps were around $86 a piece!). So I'm kind of throwing around the idea of "rebadging" these wheels with the ssr caps and decals. If anyone asked, I'd tell them they're rotas, but it would just make me happy to at least LOOK like I got what I already paid for.



    They will be paired with these:
    Blox open ended lug nuts, red chrome (to follow the theme of the engine bay)



    Then came some much needed cleaning. The prelude sat for a year while I did the swap, so everything was neglected. It still needs a full detail, but I did a couple touch ups for now.

    First, I broke out the Mother's Aluminum polish and dremel.



    Here is my the before/after effects on my intercooler. This is the top of the intercooler. The left has been polished to a mirror finish (you can see the ac hard lines in the reflection). The right side has been wiped down with a damp cloth, but is still like looking at a baking sheet. I was really pleased with this polish and this technique. I'd recommend it for any aluminum that isn't clear coated.



    Here's a full view of the car after removing the bumper to polish the FMIC.



    And a close up of the headlight harness that I desperately need to address. I've had 3 sets of headlights in this car, and am about to swap to the 4th. Every time the harness is different, so the previous one is cut/soldered. I'll be cleaning all that up when I install the jdm lights.



    Also took some time to clean up some asphalt spots on the side of my fender/door. They wouldn't come off in a normal wash, so I used turtle wax rubbing compound. Also awesome stuff.



    Next, I installed my Accord rear lip. This is a fairly common mod for 4th gen preludes and it really does a lot for the rear end, in my opinion. I plan to paint match it when I paint the rest of the car.



    Also picked up a greddy shift knob (with the red insert, go figure!) from a guy on craigslist. $25 for a $70 knob isn't bad. I love the weight too. Sorry for the blurry picture, I was driving, lol. You can see my reflection in the indash touchscreen.



    Lastly, I REALLY needed to address my front lip fitment. I showed up at the last prelude meet with it halfway hanging on and was really embarrassed. Here's a pic from that meet. (courtesy of Davis' girl)



    It's an ebay lip to begin with, but I had no clue the fitment/mounting would be THIS bad. There was no flat edge to screw/bolt through to mount the lip around the curve of the bumper, so I had to use a cutting wheel on the dremel and make my own edge in several spots around the lip. Thankfully, it's on the inside so you can't see it. Here's the lip after being stretched/cut/bent/screwed/taped for about an hour.



    Almost forgot, i mounted my catch can too. Not much to say, Greddy catch can, painted chrome red.



    Last edited by Drummerboy; 12-30-2011 at 11:49 PM.

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    do i spy new defi's behind the cluster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uho View Post
    do i spy new defi's behind the cluster?
    you get half credit. They are new gauges, but not defi. I just switched from digital to analog.

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    keep us updated bro

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    damn man looks good.. how much power are you looking to get?

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    Finally! lol. lookin good man. I love to see hard work on here.
    CD5 Accord

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    Quote Originally Posted by ludeguy420 View Post
    damn man looks good.. how much power are you looking to get?
    enough for it to move, lol. I've heard these motors can hold 380-400 with just head/main studs. I thought about pushing that, but for now, I'll be happy to make 300whp.

    Quote Originally Posted by msanch24 View Post
    Finally! lol. lookin good man. I love to see hard work on here.
    Who you tellin?! lol. I was having DREAMS of driving this thing, it's getting pretty sad.

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    damn wish my eg had that.. im going to do the minime swap then maybe boost but im not sure yet... money is tight these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummerboy View Post
    you get half credit. They are new gauges, but not defi. I just switched from digital to analog.
    I knew I spied some digital gauges. But they look a lil like defi's but can't really tell. So what are they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludeguy420 View Post
    damn wish my eg had that.. im going to do the minime swap then maybe boost but im not sure yet... money is tight these days
    You're in winder? I'm in Social circle, not far.

    do you still have the 3rd gen?

    Jim, I honestly dont remember. It's been so long since I looked at them. I want to say glowshift though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummerboy View Post
    Jim, I honestly dont remember. It's been so long since I looked at them. I want to say glowshift though.
    ah okay i gotcha they look sweet from what i can see
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    Lmk when u wanna run

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    what's the compression on that dual cam? i thought it has a high compression motor.... anyhow props on putting in work, plans sound real good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummerboy View Post
    [IMG]http:First time the motor has left the car since November 1995
    1995? how can that be isnt your lude a 96???
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    keep up good work man.
    got vtec?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Tirador View Post
    what's the compression on that dual cam? i thought it has a high compression motor.... anyhow props on putting in work, plans sound real good
    Compression is 9.5:1, not very high. Although its a bit of a step up from 8.8:1 in the single cam. Plan is to run low boost for a while until I see how it holds up. Eventually I'll be building the bottom end, throwing in cams and head studs, but for now, I just want to cruise. I had my fun going fast, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by uho View Post
    1995? how can that be isnt your lude a 96???
    Build date was November, 1995. But its a 96 model.

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    ^^^ ah okay i gotcha
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    so somebody finally went dual cam. hahaha!!!
    congrats man!!
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    haha can't pass up a (basically) $40 motor. I'm a bit worried about the "unknown" factor with this motor though. we'll see how 9.5:1 CR does with boost. Shouldn't be too bad though.

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    [QUOTE=Drummerboy;39233890]You're in winder? I'm in Social circle, not far.

    do you still have the 3rd gen?
    i hate to say it but no i had to sell it.. it had a rod start to knock an i tried finding a b20a5 but i couldnt find one any where for a good price.. i miss that car

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    unknown?
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    yeah, because this isn't a common swap (at all) and there arnt many known FACTS about this motor. but the theory is that its basically an H23 head with F22 block.

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    ah okay i gotcha well hopefully its good to go. im sure it is
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    Updated first post

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    It's gonna be slow.

    Save ur engines!
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    almost as slow as that pento you're driving.

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    sucks that ur doing all this to run 16s

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdurr View Post
    sucks that ur doing all this to run 16s

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdurr View Post
    sucks that ur doing all this to run 16s
    lololol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdurr View Post
    sucks that ur doing all this to run 16s
    Yup. I'm right with you, man. Because the only thing that has ever mattered in the history of the automobile is how fast a car can drive an 8th of a mile from a stand still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamdallas View Post
    Yup. I'm right with you, man. Because the only thing that has ever mattered in the history of the automobile is how fast a car can drive an 8th of a mile from a stand still.

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    He's just mad because they put his class in the antique class at ams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummerboy View Post
    He's just mad because they put his class in the antique class at ams.


    It's true

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamdallas View Post
    Yup. I'm right with you, man. Because the only thing that has ever mattered in the history of the automobile is how fast a car can drive an 8th of a mile from a stand still.

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    It's the 1/4 mile u newb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdurr View Post
    It's the 1/4 mile u newb.
    Most accessible tracks that I know of are an eighth of a mile. And the quarter is projected and derived.

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    U know nothing then! Lulz

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    good setup keep up the good work!

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    I'll keep my hard work going
    :p

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    ^ haha so true

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    I dont think I've seen this thread until now. Putting in work! Nice.


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