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    Regardless of the suspension moton or ebay, if you lower an E36 to much the control arms will literally pancake or bend convexly and the car won't turn as intended. I haven't talked to any suspension experts on this particular set up but i'd assume the car merely must better (thanks to AST) to make up for this, not anything track worthy as no race car or even D.E car is close to this ride height. The price you pay to not bottom out is probably something like 1000lb springs, which is absurd in a street car. Also, the aggressive bend on the stacks are questionable i.m.o, obviously it's for style but bends like that create tons of turbulence and spikes down in power on dyno charts. Simple intakes for E36's like Cosmos Racing have shown this with a less aggressive bend then the 6 pictured above. S54's could be different, i'm not sure. My stacks on my S54 have gradual bends and are from the factory, which makes me question the sharp turn on these stacks...

    He claims 30-50whp over stock which is completely believable with Bimmerworlds $4000 software re-flash that had to buy in order to get this car to run, but say it makes 35whp over stock..ok 300whp, that's pretty poor in terms of E46 WHP numbers. However if he's 320whp on a dynojet, then that's pretty good. Bimmerworld cars with a proper velocity stack set up (the stock CSL set-up) makesroughly 325-335whp or give or take 50-70whp over stock. The fact that there are no numbers posted makes me think even more that this velocity stack set-up is not very well engineered and is merely for showing off. Showing off something that doesn't function well does not impress me. I'm not a fan of the wheels, but I dig the style, it's pretty cool if your more into having people look at you then actually driving and it's an excellent way to show off ones creativity. I love the attempt to make the car handle well, it really caters to what people hate about stance works, but at the end of the day you can't be that low and go fast without re-engineering more of the suspension which hasn't been done here. Sweet car, but this is for show if you ask me, it just happens to go pretty well which is huge for the scene that's into this style
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnURleft View Post
    Regardless of the suspension moton or ebay, if you lower an E36 to much the control arms will literally pancake or bend convexly and the car won't turn as intended. I haven't talked to any suspension experts on this particular set up but i'd assume the car merely must better (thanks to AST) to make up for this, not anything track worthy as no race car or even D.E car is close to this ride height. The price you pay to not bottom out is probably something like 1000lb springs, which is absurd in a street car. Also, the aggressive bend on the stacks are questionable i.m.o, obviously it's for style but bends like that create tons of turbulence and spikes down in power on dyno charts. Simple intakes for E36's like Cosmos Racing have shown this with a less aggressive bend then the 6 pictured above. S54's could be different, i'm not sure. My stacks on my S54 have gradual bends and are from the factory, which makes me question the sharp turn on these stacks...

    He claims 30-50whp over stock which is completely believable with Bimmerworlds $4000 software re-flash that had to buy in order to get this car to run, but say it makes 35whp over stock..ok 300whp, that's pretty poor in terms of E46 WHP numbers. However if he's 320whp on a dynojet, then that's pretty good. Bimmerworld cars with a proper velocity stack set up (the stock CSL set-up) makesroughly 325-335whp or give or take 50-70whp over stock. The fact that there are no numbers posted makes me think even more that this velocity stack set-up is not very well engineered and is merely for showing off. Showing off something that doesn't function well does not impress me. I'm not a fan of the wheels, but I dig the style, it's pretty cool if your more into having people look at you then actually driving and it's an excellent way to show off ones creativity. I love the attempt to make the car handle well, it really caters to what people hate about stance works, but at the end of the day you can't be that low and go fast without re-engineering more of the suspension which hasn't been done here. Sweet car, but this is for show if you ask me, it just happens to go pretty well which is huge for the scene that's into this style
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    Quote Originally Posted by e30pwr View Post
    the most intelligent response I have seen on IA. reps. as for his control arms, I think I remember him saying in response to someone saying something similar that he is going to run e46 ones for reasons unknown to me.
    hahah thanks man, some returned. E46 control arms most likely reduce the handling/ tire wear/ etc problem but, again, he's just making up for something that is seriously affecting his car negatively. It's sort of cool (well and dumb) in a way because his improving on something that doesn't really work to make it work better and providing information for those that really want this style without all the set backs. In a way, he's making it better for those who want stance a lot but also want to turn. I applaud that, but viewers beware this isn't.. you can slam the car and win on race day too, or you can make trumpets for intakes and still make just as much power as the video implies...
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