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[JITB]

The only problem with this thread is that if you want to look for inspiration you should go to a PHOTOGRAPHY site to begin with.

This site is full of people that post "great pics", "awesome shots", or "love the pics" when in reality they are not much of any of those descriptions at all. It's a false sense of greatness. Not taking anything away from the ones that truly have talent, but if we're being honest this is by far not the site to get your photographic tips from.

Go to a true photography forum and post up some of the pics posted up in this very thread, and you will see what a humbling experience that is.

Merely coming up with a catchy watermark, putting a border on the pic, or worse......using crazy contorting angles to seem cool does not a photographer make anyone.

that is waht makes "art" so great.. everyone has a different like, and view of things, and gets different inspiration. So your appreciation for the guys on the photography site..is what give you inspiration. But it may not work for everyone... see how that works! Its like telling someone how to think, or how to feel about something... its impossible!

[CHADbee]

that is waht makes "art" so great.. everyone has a different like, and view of things, and gets different inspiration. So your appreciation for the guys on the photography site..is what give you inspiration. But it may not work for everyone... see how that works! Its like telling someone how to think, or how to feel about something... its impossible!

alot of people here dont understand photography like the people on those forums. people here cant pin point why they like X photo over Y photo so they cant reproduce the quality of X photo.

example...

i see alot of photos from people that have been doing photography for a few months or longer(IM NOT AN OG! lol) and there is less space between the front bumper of the car and the end of the "frame" than the rear bumper of the car and the end of the "frame". this looks alot worse than if it was the other way around. do you know why? its because the human eye is used to seeing a automobile in motion, and you you take a picture of a car that way subconsciously you "feel" like the car is trapped in the frame and has no where to go. i know that seams really out there for some people but its the truth. being a good photographer is learning what is visually appealing to the human eye and why it is that way.

import atlanta, honda-tech and my350z is a place to learn about cars, not photography. a lot of photographers(like me) will not give REAL critiques on car forums because they have had bad experiences with people getting buthurt cause we were "mean" and "think our shit doesnt stink". if you dont know what your doing wrong you cant ever fix it.

the only reason i have progressed like i have(i still suck, but have made decent progression) is because of me posting on photography forums and telling me to rip my photos to shit, be blunt, be assholes, smack my ass and call me nancy. blunt, harsh criticism is the best way to get better at photography and you arent going to get that on a car forum.

sorry for that book^

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So what I got from all this is that I'm the best photographer on IA....I mean...it's pretty obvious

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One thing I must say that can make or break an automotive picture is not even the photographers skill or equipment, it comes down to the subject(car) and the scenery of which the car is in. For example when someone posts pics of a 92 integra, the shots might be good and the car might be "clean" by his standards but it's still relatively boring. Why? Because the subject sucks. It's like looking at a "good" picture of an ugly old woman. Also, I have seen decent quality pictures taken in breathtaking scenery such as mountains etc... and the pictures take my breath away with how nice they are. Honestly living in GA, I find nice scenery for automotive photography extremely lacking. It's pretty hard to take great pics with a lack of good backdrops and such imo

My definition of a good picture is one that makes me say "wow!"

[juan b]

here is my favorite shot of my old car shot by puregroove

[JITB]

alot of people here dont understand photography like the people on those forums. people here cant pin point why they like X photo over Y photo so they cant reproduce the quality of X photo.

example...

i see alot of photos from people that have been doing photography for a few months or longer(IM NOT AN OG! lol) and there is less space between the front bumper of the car and the end of the "frame" than the rear bumper of the car and the end of the "frame". this looks alot worse than if it was the other way around. do you know why? its because the human eye is used to seeing a automobile in motion, and you you take a picture of a car that way subconsciously you "feel" like the car is trapped in the frame and has no where to go. i know that seams really out there for some people but its the truth. being a good photographer is learning what is visually appealing to the human eye and why it is that way.

import atlanta, honda-tech and my350z is a place to learn about cars, not photography. a lot of photographers(like me) will not give REAL critiques on car forums because they have had bad experiences with people getting buthurt cause we were "mean" and "think our shit doesnt stink". if you dont know what your doing wrong you cant ever fix it.

the only reason i have progressed like i have(i still suck, but have made decent progression) is because of me posting on photography forums and telling me to rip my photos to shit, be blunt, be assholes, smack my ass and call me nancy. blunt, harsh criticism is the best way to get better at photography and you arent going to get that on a car forum.

sorry for that book^

We (non picture takers just lookers) just want to see cool pictures. And photography is art, much like music, and its all optical, its whats pleasing to the eye. Some people may hate changaroos dark style of pics, and some may love it. Just like some may hate cahdbee's style, but love blacknightteg's driveway portrait. Just because its simple and straight to the point and gets the point across. Like you have people who make music on the most sophisticated electronics every made, but it never sounds as good as fined tuned instrument. Granted there is a science to it all..but it all comes down to expression and what makes the eye happy.

Car photography has gotten like this because of the internet. The only place were you can become a well known person because of 1 photo taken in your driveway, with a 75$ camera.

And criticisms is all good, when it comes to knowing how to work your camera, and what settings to use in certain conditions. but other than that its all skill and time. Noone on the forums can teach you to have an eye for a nice picture, its like alot of things some people got it and some people dont.

Some of my favorite photographers are magic with the PS, but the better ones are magic behind the camera... when you see a good picture, the last thing you think about is the post processing.

[CHADbee]

We (non picture takers just lookers) just want to see cool pictures. And photography is art, much like music, and its all optical, its whats pleasing to the eye. Some people may hate changaroos dark style of pics, and some may love it. Just like some may hate cahdbee's style, but love blacknightteg's driveway portrait. Just because its simple and straight to the point and gets the point across. Like you have people who make music on the most sophisticated electronics every made, but it never sounds as good as fined tuned instrument. Granted there is a science to it all..but it all comes down to expression and what makes the eye happy.

Car photography has gotten like this because of the internet. The only place were you can become a well known person because of 1 photo taken in your driveway, with a 75$ camera.

And criticisms is all good, when it comes to knowing how to work your camera, and what settings to use in certain conditions. but other than that its all skill and time. Noone on the forums can teach you to have an eye for a nice picture, its like alot of things some people got it and some people dont.

Some of my favorite photographers are magic with the PS, but the better ones are magic behind the camera... when you see a good picture, the last thing you think about is the post processing.

i agree for the most part but alot of people say i have a good eye to properly compose a photo and i learned that from studying composition techniques that i found on photography forums. if you just "had an eye for it" all you would have to do is buy a decent camera, read the manual to learn the settings then produce amazing shots. some people learn fast, some people learn slow, some people just cant wrap their minds around it and then give up but everybody has to learn and all im saying is if you truly want to produce good photography the best option is to be around people that are professionals. over the past year my photos have sucked alot less, they still arent what i call good but they are better and one of the main reasons is because i have a friend that shoots for import tuner, performance auto and sound and a few other magazines constantly pit picking the fuck out of my photos and helping me with my rig set-up, my editing and pushing me to get better. if i would have stuck to IA and car forums i can promise you my work would suck alot more than it does right now.

[JITB]

i agree for the most part but alot of people say i have a good eye to properly compose a photo and i learned that from studying composition techniques that i found on photography forums. if you just "had an eye for it" all you would have to do is buy a decent camera, read the manual to learn the settings then produce amazing shots. some people learn fast, some people learn slow, some people just cant wrap their minds around it and then give up but everybody has to learn and all im saying is if you truly want to produce good photography the best option is to be around people that are professionals. over the past year my photos have sucked alot less, they still arent what i call good but they are better and one of the main reasons is because i have a friend that shoots for import tuner, performance auto and sound and a few other magazines constantly pit picking the fuck out of my photos and helping me with my rig set-up, my editing and pushing me to get better. if i would have stuck to IA and car forums i can promise you my work would suck alot more than it does right now.

im not saying stick to IA for criticism, but i was saying you can only go soo far off people telling you what to do, and the rest.. is just talent.

[CHADbee]

Actually a lot of the "bad" photos that everyone keeps downplaying of theirs, end up looking a HELL of a lot better than a lot of the pictures you see in mainstream car magazines. I would rather see a lot of yalls photos in mags, than the shitty boring pictures that I see almost 100% of the time.

alot of the time its about who you know and where you live more than the end product when it comes to getting published.

thanks man. I reckon i might throw my hat in the ring.

go for it man, diesel station you might not even get one reply but keep making threads there as you shoot and then people will start replying and it will be some quality responses for the most part.

im not saying stick to IA for criticism, but i was saying you can only go soo far off people telling you what to do, and the rest.. is just talent.

that is very true. no matter how much people try and help you if you just have zero talent for it, you wont make it.

[boostedb16]

alot of people here dont understand photography like the people on those forums. people here cant pin point why they like X photo over Y photo so they cant reproduce the quality of X photo.

example...

i see alot of photos from people that have been doing photography for a few months or longer(IM NOT AN OG! lol) and there is less space between the front bumper of the car and the end of the "frame" than the rear bumper of the car and the end of the "frame". this looks alot worse than if it was the other way around. do you know why? its because the human eye is used to seeing a automobile in motion, and you you take a picture of a car that way subconsciously you "feel" like the car is trapped in the frame and has no where to go. i know that seams really out there for some people but its the truth. being a good photographer is learning what is visually appealing to the human eye and why it is that way.

import atlanta, honda-tech and my350z is a place to learn about cars, not photography. a lot of photographers(like me) will not give REAL critiques on car forums because they have had bad experiences with people getting buthurt cause we were "mean" and "think our shit doesnt stink". if you dont know what your doing wrong you cant ever fix it.

the only reason i have progressed like i have(i still suck, but have made decent progression) is because of me posting on photography forums and telling me to rip my photos to shit, be blunt, be assholes, smack my ass and call me nancy. blunt, harsh criticism is the best way to get better at photography and you arent going to get that on a car forum.

sorry for that book^

listen to chad. if you ever want a honest opinion on your picture, this guy will tell you. when i got my fist DSLR i took some pictures of some horse's in the middle of the day on a very sunny day. chad being one of the best "imo" on this site. i pmed him and asked him what he thought. he told me my pictures sucked ass. well i took it like a adult and said thanks and i dont take picture's in the harsh sunlight any more. sometimes the truth is what you need to get better. sorry for the paragraph.

[Jaimecbr900]

that is waht makes "art" so great.. everyone has a different like, and view of things, and gets different inspiration.

So you're wanting to argue with my opinion that IA is not the best place for "inspiration" in photography??? Okie dokie.

So your appreciation for the guys on the photography site..is what give you inspiration. But it may not work for everyone... see how that works! Its like telling someone how to think, or how to feel about something... its impossible!

I don't need any inspiration at all. The OP did. Again, if you want to argue with me that THIS.....IA....is THE place to get inspired by the photography being posted, then I say that you are not well versed on what a good picture is since it seems just about every day someone posts a bad picture and all the nutswingers call it "great". That's a false positive. If you guys want to stick your head in the sand and say it's "art" or "cool to you", then fine. But if you truly want inspiration, then go to where there are better people than you, not worse.

Still my

[JITB]

So you're wanting to argue with my opinion that IA is not the best place for "inspiration" in photography??? Okie dokie.




I don't need any inspiration at all. The OP did. Again, if you want to argue with me that THIS.....IA....is THE place to get inspired by the photography being posted, then I say that you are not well versed on what a good picture is since it seems just about every day someone posts a bad picture and all the nutswingers call it "great". That's a false positive. If you guys want to stick your head in the sand and say it's "art" or "cool to you", then fine. But if you truly want inspiration, then go to where there are better people than you, not worse.

Still my

i figured u would have a cool head and discuss. but you went off and turned into an argument. you suggested looking to other pros on a photo site. which is cool,and does help. but its only gonna get u so far like i said to chad. i didnt say anything about ia is the place for motivation, shitty pic is a shitty pic. and u can tell when a person is putting an effort into being creative. i was saying that you cant base peoples motivation on their skill. just because i say you can get motivation from anything u tell me i dont have a know of a good photo. i cant tell you what you like so how can u tell anyone else? just like any talent or trade it takes time and motivation can come from your peers on ia or some guy on aphoto forum. but that wont make or break your talent.

[Jaimecbr900]

i figured u would have a cool head and discuss. but you went off and turned into an argument. you suggested looking to other pros on a photo site. which is cool,and does help. but its only gonna get u so far like i said to chad. i didnt say anything about ia is the place for motivation, shitty pic is a shitty pic. and u can tell when a person is putting an effort into being creative. i was saying that you cant base peoples motivation on their skill. just because i say you can get motivation from anything u tell me i dont have a know of a good photo. i cant tell you what you like so how can u tell anyone else? just like any talent or trade it takes time and motivation can come from your peers on ia or some guy on aphoto forum. but that wont make or break your talent.

I don't know why you find it necessary to continue to argue with my opinion, which based on the very next posts right after me confirmed I'm not the only one that feels that way anyway.

Look, all I'm saying is this: If you're an Attorney, do you get to be a "better" Attorney by only trying easy cases or diving into the hard ones? Ever see the ovie "A Few Good Men"? Yes, you may be the best at ambulance chasing, but you'll never be a "serious" top of the line one until you litigate. Know what I mean?

On IA, far too often people like to take pics of their cars right after they wash it or when they find an empty warehouse parking lot. Nothing wrong with that IF the rest of the picture fit properly. As Jason already pointed out, composition, lighting, and clarity go a long way to making a picture appealing. A driveway with trash cans in the open garage background is not proper composition in any book. So let's stop going around saying that it is, let alone using it as any "inspiration" to anyone.

My point is that IA has a nasty habit of people calling some pics "nice" when they truly aren't. Therefore if the OP wants "inspiration", IA is slim pickings. Now, if he wants some to truly push his skill level UP, then he has to go where the photogs are BETTER than he is in order to do that. There are very few true great photogs on IA, and out of those most don't even post their work on a regular basis. There again, another reason why I stand by MY OPINION that for the purposes of inspiration and getting better at photography this is not the optimal site. To read drama and keep up with friends, yes....photography, no. Yes, there are guys on here that truly know their stuff. If you can get lucky and get them to give you some help, then you're good.

This is just my opinion, so no need to try and start any arguments about it. It is what it is. You don't have to agree. That's fine with me. No skin off my back at all.

[JITB]

I don't know why you find it necessary to continue to argue with my opinion, which based on the very next posts right after me confirmed I'm not the only one that feels that way anyway.

Look, all I'm saying is this: If you're an Attorney, do you get to be a "better" Attorney by only trying easy cases or diving into the hard ones? Ever see the ovie "A Few Good Men"? Yes, you may be the best at ambulance chasing, but you'll never be a "serious" top of the line one until you litigate. Know what I mean?

On IA, far too often people like to take pics of their cars right after they wash it or when they find an empty warehouse parking lot. Nothing wrong with that IF the rest of the picture fit properly. As Jason already pointed out, composition, lighting, and clarity go a long way to making a picture appealing. A driveway with trash cans in the open garage background is not proper composition in any book. So let's stop going around saying that it is, let alone using it as any "inspiration" to anyone.

My point is that IA has a nasty habit of people calling some pics "nice" when they truly aren't. Therefore if the OP wants "inspiration", IA is slim pickings. Now, if he wants some to truly push his skill level UP, then he has to go where the photogs are BETTER than he is in order to do that. There are very few true great photogs on IA, and out of those most don't even post their work on a regular basis. There again, another reason why I stand by MY OPINION that for the purposes of inspiration and getting better at photography this is not the optimal site. To read drama and keep up with friends, yes....photography, no. Yes, there are guys on here that truly know their stuff. If you can get lucky and get them to give you some help, then you're good.

This is just my opinion, so no need to try and start any arguments about it. It is what it is. You don't have to agree. That's fine with me. No skin off my back at all.

"AINT" NOBODY ARGUING WITH YOUR OPINION MAN

i just said, you can get INSPIRATION and MOTIVATION which is what this thread is about from anywhere it doesnt have to be on a photo forum. And you said that if you get motivation from anywhere but a photgraphy site than you have no eye for good photography...which is out there. Im sure justin is full aware of photography forums.

When did i say anything about IA being the judge and jury on good pics. I rarely learn anything on ia... like i said you can learn the mechanics on a forum and learn what to do to process a good photo, and to capture it, but you can gain motivation comes from everywhere.

[Jaimecbr900]

"AINT" NOBODY ARGUING WITH YOUR OPINION MAN

i just said, you can get INSPIRATION and MOTIVATION which is what this thread is about from anywhere it doesnt have to be on a photo forum. And you said that if you get motivation from anywhere but a photgraphy site than you have no eye for good photography...which is out there. Im sure justin is full aware of photography forums.

When did i say anything about IA being the judge and jury on good pics. I rarely learn anything on ia... like i said you can learn the mechanics on a forum and learn what to do to process a good photo, and to capture it, but you can gain motivation comes from everywhere.

Dude, take a Midol and change your tampon.

Good grief. Whatever dude, you win. IA pics = great inspiration.....

Yall have fun in your thread.

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Dude, take a Midol and change your tampon.

Good grief. Whatever dude, you win. IA pics = great inspiration.....

Yall have fun in your thread.

It seems you're both fighting to have the last word in this e-debate. Who will come out victorious?

[JITB]

Dude, take a Midol and change your tampon.

Good grief. Whatever dude, you win. IA pics = great inspiration.....

Yall have fun in your thread.

you should seriously work on reading comprehension and or get an alzheimers evaluation.