ok i lowered the car today. here is the story. i started the front at 1130 got done at 12 30 then i start on the back at 1245 and just now getting done at 7 40 lol one bolt on each strut was siezed on. we broke the head of the bolts off and beat the hell out of them for 6 hours and got both of them out so i had to go get new ones... pictures will be up tomorrow or the next day.