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12-23-2009, 02:50 AM
JITB

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Originally Posted by DeeAOne

no thats what i wanted to do but mike thought it would be smart to weld up the inlet and outlet. ill probably have to get a new one. :no:

yea that wont work...lol it will seize up..and u will have a problem on your hands..lol. just get s a pullapart one. And you can maybe gut it out like you said, but it still may seize up over time. Put some fluid in the rack, and seal it up with bolts. And do the same with the p/s pump, and loop it.

Or you can just use your bf p/s hard lines from the rack, and pair them up with the KL p/s hardlines. thats what i did, if your gonna have to run it, might as well use it..
12-23-2009, 02:55 AM
DeeAOne

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Originally Posted by JITB

yea that wont work...lol it will seize up..and u will have a problem on your hands..lol. just get s a pullapart one. And you can maybe gut it out like you said, but it still may seize up over time. Put some fluid in the rack, and seal it up with bolts. And do the same with the p/s pump, and loop it.

Or you can just use your bf p/s hard lines from the rack, and pair them up with the KL p/s hardlines. thats what i did, if your gonna have to run it, might as well use it..

well in a way it is sealed like you said, just welds instead of bolts. lol
12-23-2009, 02:57 AM
quickdodge®

Get that bitch running so you can bring it to Atlanta. Later, QD.
12-23-2009, 03:02 AM
SlenderEG6

lol u should have just ran pwr steering.. i mean it would be easier besides that rack is done its gonna seize like buddy said and u dont wanna be drivin and then its starts fukin up ya know
12-23-2009, 03:04 AM
DeeAOne

true...it will have to do for now though.

and qd im working on it. :yes:
12-23-2009, 03:09 AM
SlenderEG6

we still racin for 100 Gs ??
12-23-2009, 03:14 AM
JITB

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeAOne

well in a way it is sealed like you said, just welds instead of bolts. lol

did he weld the rack or the power steering pump? i tried to plug up the p/s pump and it worked for all of 45 seconds...lol
12-23-2009, 03:14 AM
DeeAOne

ill race for a cheeseburger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JITB

did he weld the rack or the power steering pump? i tried to plug up the p/s pump and it worked for all of 45 seconds...lol

he welded the rack.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...1/SDC10626.jpg
12-23-2009, 10:48 AM
kfzemx3

the power steering pump is still hooked up but you welded off the inlet outlet on the rack so that its no longer powered? so whats the point of keeping the power steering pump now?
12-23-2009, 11:31 AM
JITB

Quote:

Originally Posted by kfzemx3

the power steering pump is still hooked up but you welded off the inlet outlet on the rack so that its no longer powered? so whats the point of keeping the power steering pump now?

true....what was the talk about the p/s pump needing to stay? or will gutting it out work?
12-23-2009, 01:28 PM
DeeAOne

the p/s pump is gutted. it will just act as a tensioner for the belt.
12-24-2009, 05:15 PM
CHRISNITTOLO

Bump, more pics.
12-24-2009, 06:05 PM
.:Stirfry:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeeAOne

he welded the rack.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...1/SDC10626.jpg

i thought that was all a joke..

but now i see that its not..

:eek:

:no:
(the person who done that must be one hella of a dumb ish..)
12-24-2009, 06:13 PM
Romeo

I would've just gone with looping it back to each other. that's what i've done a bunch of times now and it seems to work.. But coming along very very nicely! thanks mike for the pictures updates! haha.
12-24-2009, 06:26 PM
.:Stirfry:.

thats what i did, i relooped the lines into a clutch reservoir and worked perfect!
12-24-2009, 10:46 PM
MidLifeCrisis

You cant tell me some 88 323 didnt come with manual steering? If so i'm sure you could get a remanufactured or a used unit. EDIT: Just saw on rockauto an A-1 cardone manual rack is 226 with new tie rod ends.. and what have most people done for a belt if they didnt run P/S? is the pump really the only adjustable part of the accessory belt system? Do i need to come down to warner robins and fix this? haha
12-24-2009, 11:18 PM
JITB

Quote:

Originally Posted by MidLifeCrisis

You cant tell me some 88 323 didnt come with manual steering? If so i'm sure you could get a remanufactured or a used unit. EDIT: Just saw on rockauto an A-1 cardone manual rack is 226 with new tie rod ends.. and what have most people done for a belt if they didnt run P/S? is the pump really the only adjustable part of the accessory belt system? Do i need to come down to warner robins and fix this? haha

this is the issue with the p/s delete on kl motors

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...eplacement.gif

there is only that and the water pump on the same belt. its alot of work pulling that pulley off and getting a new belt for the p/"s less system. but sine he has gutted it out. it should be fine. hopefully there isnt any more fluid inthe rack.. lol but there smart im sure they got it all out!
12-25-2009, 10:26 AM
DeeAOne

looping was my first suggestion. but like i said if all else fails, ill get a manual rack, and im pretty sure the festiva rack works too so i could find one of those pretty cheap.

im more worried about getting my axle situation solved and the motor wired up right now.
12-25-2009, 10:34 AM
punkr6

congrats on the build man, all I can say is, thank god I build hondas. That is a lot of work and headaches your dealing with. I'm sure it will be fun when it's done though....
12-25-2009, 10:44 PM
mx34life

:bump::yes:now thats what im talking about a KLDE swap . if you need any help with this give me a PM i would love to help . i had help out joe back in the day with his KL swap on his protege
12-26-2009, 01:41 AM
jew_boy

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Originally Posted by .:Stirfry:.

i thought that was all a joke..

but now i see that its not..

:eek:

:no:
(the person who done that must be one hella of a dumb ish..)

so is the person who is building a ls with gsr internals and ls head which will give it less tq then a stock ls.:thinking:and you they think there going to run 11's :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:but idk sh!t... :ninja:
12-26-2009, 04:57 PM
DeeAOne

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx34life

:bump::yes:now thats what im talking about a KLDE swap . if you need any help with this give me a PM i would love to help . i had help out joe back in the day with his KL swap on his protege

sweet man, thanks. :goodjob:

no updates right now..havent been doing much because of christmas, and trying to get over this cold i have.
12-26-2009, 08:22 PM
kfzemx3

eliminate the ps pump you don't need it, take a string measure the length you need now for the new belt, and you can get them at a specific size and tooth count.

and i would go with the 323 manual rack. its night and day between one thats been made to be manual and one that is.
12-26-2009, 08:25 PM
MidLifeCrisis

we'll have a mazda vs. mazda showdown when you get it running man!
12-26-2009, 08:33 PM
JITB

Quote:

Originally Posted by kfzemx3

eliminate the ps pump you don't need it, take a string measure the length you need now for the new belt, and you can get them at a specific size and tooth count.

and i would go with the 323 manual rack. its night and day between one thats been made to be manual and one that is.

dont u mx3 people have part numbers for the belt? you guys are usually good at that stuff...lol
12-26-2009, 10:26 PM
DeeAOne

yeah if you find out that part number let me know! lol

and brett, im down for that. :goodjob:
12-26-2009, 10:36 PM
.:Stirfry:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jew_boy

so is the person who is building a ls with gsr internals and ls head which will give it less tq then a stock ls.:thinking:and you they think there going to run 11's :lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:but idk sh!t... :ninja:

wow i see how much you knoe .......
thats just stupid.

.
my set-up
b16 block
ls crank
gsr rods
12:5.1 high comp pistons
ls head
t4 turbo on 45psi
with a 200 shit 2 stage frogger kit
and a JRSC
all on e85
:doh:.. and im shootin for 9s

but thats commin from a person who welds the ports shut on a steerin rack. :thinking:
12-26-2009, 10:58 PM
kfzemx3

Quote:

Originally Posted by JITB

dont u mx3 people have part numbers for the belt? you guys are usually good at that stuff...lol

lol maybe if i was actively buying parts :) i'm playing with the is300 right now
12-26-2009, 11:07 PM
JITB

Quote:

Originally Posted by .:Stirfry:.

wow i see how much you knoe .......
thats just stupid.

.
my set-up
b16 block
ls crank
gsr rods
12:5.1 high comp pistons
ls head
t4 turbo on 45psi
with a 200 shit 2 stage frogger kit
and a JRSC
all on e85
:doh:.. and im shootin for 9s

but thats commin from a person who welds the ports shut on a steerin rack. :thinking:

45lbs...lol oh my.. buy a mazda you can do 11's with about a 1/"3 of your budget!
12-26-2009, 11:11 PM
jew_boy

Quote:

Originally Posted by .:Stirfry:.

wow i see how much you knoe .......
thats just stupid.
.
my set-up
b16 block
ls crank
gsr rods
12:5.1 high comp pistons
ls head
t4 turbo on 45psi
with a 200 shit 2 stage frogger kit
and a JRSC
all on e85
:doh:.. and im shootin for 9s

but thats commin from a person who welds the ports shut on a steerin rack. :thinking:

ok so your telling me you are using a ls crank with gsr rods meaning your pistons are going to hit your head bc they have a different stroke ? google gsr rods and ls crank and let me know the fail. u find. next your planning on running high comp pistons and boost? thats another fail everyone knows you dont do high comp and boost when ppl build turbo cars they lower comp like chris did he went to 8.5:1 also turbo and supercharger combinned is so unifficent (sp) you will never get into the 9s with those two bc they will never work together properly good luck and give me a call when you blow up. (please) then ill help you do research now before i throw facts in your face. or make a thread on ia can i use ls crank and gsr rods see what happens come on man up make a thread.. (when your ready ill show you how to build a honda motor correctly. :cheers:
12-26-2009, 11:12 PM
.:Stirfry:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JITB

45lbs...lol oh my.. buy a mazda you can do 11's with about a 1/"3 of your budget!

i was being sarcastic on the setup. lol

i gots have a few tricks up my sleeve :ninja:
12-26-2009, 11:14 PM
.:Stirfry:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jew_boy

ok so your telling me you are using a ls crank with gsr rods meaning your pistons are going to hit your head bc they have a different stroke ? google gsr rods and ls crank and let me know the fail. u find. next your planning on running high comp pistons and boost? thats another fail everyone knows you dont do high comp and boost when ppl build turbo cars they lower comp like chris did he went to 8.5:1 also turbo and supercharger combinned is so unifficent (sp) you will never get into the 9s with those two bc they will never work together properly good luck and give me a call when you blow up. (please) then ill help you do research now before i throw facts in your face. or make a thread on ia can i use ls crank and gsr rods see what happens come on man up make a thread.. (when your ready ill show you how to build a honda motor correctly. :cheers:

lol.. you fail for explainnin all that.. lol :lmfao:
dumb shit.. :lmfao::lmfao:
12-26-2009, 11:18 PM
.:Stirfry:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jew_boy

. . .

and ive done my research. i knoe what im doin. you just do you.

and i would never let you help me work on my car/motor or anything of sort. im not stupid.
and you wonder why you never really did?? :thinking::thinking:
12-26-2009, 11:28 PM
jew_boy

Quote:

Originally Posted by .:Stirfry:.

lol.. you fail for explainnin all that.. lol :lmfao:
dumb shit.. :lmfao::lmfao:

:thinking:

Quote:

Originally Posted by .:Stirfry:.

and ive done my research. i knoe what im doin. you just do you.

and i would never let you help me work on my car/motor or anything of sort. im not stupid.
and you wonder why you never really did?? :thinking::thinking:

ok i helped assembly a whole gsr in less then 2 hours and i believe it running great besides the oil pump is going bad... but you built what... a zc that you had to get someone to fix your timing cause you couldnt get it... and in less then a week ill have a V8 under my belt that i fully rebuilt by myself just with the assistance of chris just to help put the pistons in. and you been building this motor for like 2 years and done changed setup like 3 times. and still havent broke 14's ( and were talking about building a motor not slapping a turbo on it) all you did was change heads on that car
12-26-2009, 11:29 PM
jew_boy

better yet get your shit running and come talk to me. we will see if this secret motor will beat a V8 s10
12-26-2009, 11:54 PM
.:Stirfry:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jew_boy

ok i helped assembly a whole gsr in less then 2 hours and i believe it running great besides the oil pump is going bad... but you built what... a zc that you had to get someone to fix your timing cause you couldnt get it... and in less then a week ill have a V8 under my belt that i fully rebuilt by myself just with the assistance of chris just to help put the pistons in. and you been building this motor for like 2 years and done changed setup like 3 times. and still havent broke 14's ( and were talking about building a motor not slapping a turbo on it) all you did was change heads on that car

great congrats to you im so happy for you. . . does it look like i give a flight fluck, but that chris' car not yours,
and that ZC was built completly by me and brian. i put the motor in, i wired up the whole car, i did the fab work, i did the timming, i did everything to that car to get it running. on the very first start up it didnt start, i checked the timming it was 180 off so i fliped it, then ran like a champ. but it didnt very well at the track bc of a shitty ebay clutch, that wasnt purchased by me
but you didnt help me dom didnt help me louie, pt, chris, ricer steven, stanton, or anyone in wr at that time.

the car that ran 14.3s was a bone stock b18a1 91 integra with 200k miles one it stock everything. with a t25 on 4psi stock internal wg.
which was done all by me.
and that was just "slappin" a turbo on.
the motor i do fully build is gunna walk any "v8" that your gunna have

you dont have much room to talk with a s10 that runs 17s

the motor i have, has been sittin the same way for the past 2 yrs. as bare block, i havent event touched it yet. so how can i change setups? ive stuck with the same setup plan. once again shows how much you knoe.
12-26-2009, 11:56 PM
.:Stirfry:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jew_boy

better yet get your shit running and come talk to me. we will see if this secret motor will beat a V8 s10

right. ill run you in my dd civic. agaist that s10.

in my turbo'd da ive beatin plenty of v8s and what makes that s10 any different againts my bulit teg.
12-26-2009, 11:59 PM
.:Stirfry:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jew_boy

better yet get your shit running and come talk to me. we will see if this secret motor will beat a V8 s10

and hows is it a secret, whats to knoe about it. its just a b18.
12-27-2009, 12:03 AM
.:Stirfry:.

what about that chevelle why isnt it running? that white s10?
and im the one that changes plans
12-27-2009, 12:10 AM
.:Stirfry:.

and me, let you touch my motor, i wouldnt want you to drop any of my pistons and break them. or put the pistons in backwards. :lmfao:

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