Sold the ITR for this...

[OnURleft]

I don't know how his ITR ran but I have drove some ITR's before and I have also driven numerous of E36's and I think the ITR is a much better car then the E36. I like the corners and stuff, and that's just what the ITR was built for. That E36 sure wasn't built for that. And I'm only speaking for that trim. This opinion has NOTHING to do with E36 M3's.

I think it's a downgrade but everyone will have their opinions.

Your lack of experience shows.

Stock 325is with bilsteins/H&R/weight reduction vs a FIELD of M3's or E30's with M3 motors.
This car does 44's on Road Atlanta with street tires. To give you a perspective there are two guys who do BMWCCA track days with ITR's on coil overs, R comps and they run 48's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQ9S2XtcZY
That car was running 1:08's. It would take a field of mods to get an ITR within seconds of that

lol i took a 90 degree turn today at about ~40mph....UNDERSTEER!!! need some strut bars

would of ate that turn in the honda

try the driver mod sometime

[Vteckidd]

yessir...exterior/interior mods is all ill be doing, hunting for black front and rear seats right now...

might boost in the future

in for "BMW SHELL FOR SALE, BLOWN MOTOR, EBAY TURBO KIT" thread in few months time

[speedminded]

I don't know how his ITR ran but I have drove some ITR's before and I have also driven numerous of E36's and I think the ITR is a much better car then the E36. I like the corners and stuff, and that's just what the ITR was built for. That E36 sure wasn't built for that. And I'm only speaking for that trim. This opinion has NOTHING to do with E36 M3's.

I think it's a downgrade but everyone will have their opinions.

At what point do facts supersede opinion? If you really think that then you're scared of the e36 and simply don't know how to drive it. Even stock the car is so neutral not to mention I'm sure the e36's you drove had broken rear trailing arm bushings. You ever driven an M3? What's the difference? 40hp and a more rigid suspension? You can buy stock m3 shocks and springs for a few hundred $$$.

I've been involved with the extreme end of both Honda's and BMW's. Put an added$15k+ into the ITR/Civic/Del Sol and you can have a car that will out maneuver the BMW. Put that $15k into the BMW...holy

lol i took a 90 degree turn today at about ~40mph....UNDERSTEER!!! need some strut bars

would of ate that turn in the honda

You think strut bars are going to prevent understeer? LOL!!! It's called turn in and gently lift the throttle to get it to rotate then get back in it.

Also helps if the car has a proper alignment.

[CopyRight]

in for "BMW SHELL FOR SALE, BLOWN MOTOR, EBAY TURBO KIT" thread in few months time

all new "forged" internals too!

[Benefit]

i see we still have haters

[Me86Rob]

i see we still have haters

yup

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

Your lack of experience shows.

Stock 325is with bilsteins/H&R/weight reduction vs a FIELD of M3's or E30's with M3 motors.
This car does 44's on Road Atlanta with street tires. To give you a perspective there are two guys who do BMWCCA track days with ITR's on coil overs, R comps and they run 48's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQ9S2XtcZY
That car was running 1:08's. It would take a field of mods to get an ITR within seconds of that

Dude....I'm talking here about a STOCK ITR and a STOCK E36......You're throwing in a 325 with modifications to it. Move aside fan boy.

At what point do facts supersede opinion? If you really think that then you're scared of the e36 and simply don't know how to drive it. Even stock the car is so neutral not to mention I'm sure the e36's you drove had broken rear trailing arm bushings. You ever driven an M3? What's the difference? 40hp and a more rigid suspension? You can buy stock m3 shocks and springs for a few hundred $$$.

I've been involved with the extreme end of both Honda's and BMW's. Put an added$15k+ into the ITR/Civic/Del Sol and you can have a car that will out maneuver the BMW. Put that $15k into the BMW...holy

Damn didn't know I drove 5 different ones with the same problem. I don't understand why everyone on IA has to have sand in their vaginas when someone gives their opinion. I mean, I saw E36's ALL DAY EVERY DAY...BORING !!! ITR are rare and are becoming even more rare with all the thefts and accidents. Like I said.....I would rather drive a ITR ANY DAY than a E36 325. Don't get me wrong I love me a BMW and I've been in search of a clean E30 for a while now but I just think the ITR was better.

[Benefit]

itr is fun but bmw is more practical

[Me86Rob]

itr is fun but bmw is more practical , end of discussion!

stfu

[Benefit]

bitch who the fuck u tellin to stfu

[Me86Rob]

bitch who the fuck u tellin to stfu

uh. you. jackass

[TRDwasiq]

wtf is goin ? on

[speedminded]

Damn didn't know I drove 5 different ones with the same problem. I don't understand why everyone on IA has to have sand in their vaginas when someone gives their opinion. I mean, I saw E36's ALL DAY EVERY DAY...BORING !!! ITR are rare and are becoming even more rare with all the thefts and accidents. Like I said.....I would rather drive a ITR ANY DAY than a E36 325. Don't get me wrong I love me a BMW and I've been in search of a clean E30 for a while now but I just think the ITR was better.

Too bad this car is a 328, about the same power but more torque...not to mention the upgrades.

BMW used natural rubber for all their bushings. Natural rubber deteriorates much faster than synthetic bushings. There's a good change 4/5 or even 9/10 e36's you drive need the bushings replaced, especially the RTABS. As long as the e36 has good condition bushings it will out handle the ITR in EVERY aspect stock for stock.

If you're accustomed to FWD's then you won't be able to drive the e36 to its full potential, not even close.

[Benefit]

put 800 miles on it in 5 days lol

[Humphrizzle]

I would have kept an ITR but I guess i can see why you got this.

looks great. keep it up.

[jfman]

OMFG! Epic thread! You made my day Benefit.

Enjoy your "piece of shit" BMW

[Logan]

this thread is one big face palm. I cannot even begin quoting some of the stupid shit said in here.

[KevinT707]

Ehh..